|
Post by Prime etc. on Sept 16, 2020 16:59:12 GMT
Nope. That's not what wimpy means. Wimpy is doing un-super heroic things.
Are you saying that cinematic is not Captain America?
|
|
|
Post by dazz on Sept 16, 2020 18:09:06 GMT
Nope. That's not what wimpy means. Wimpy is doing un-super heroic things.
Are you saying that cinematic is not Captain America?
A google of the word says wimpy means weak, cowardly or feeble, Cap's never been any of those in the movies after he got the serum, being rescued isn't being any of those things, especially whne he needed rescuing due to choosing not to fight Bucky anymore, he chose to let Bucky beat on him in hopes Bucky would remember who he was during it, Cap could of kept fighting, but doing so only played into Bucky's programming, Cap had to make a drastic move to break through to Bucky and he did and it paid off, being willing to sacrifice yourself to save a friend is not wimpy at all. Also kind of missing his point, that cinematic is of 1 variation of Cap, there have been numerous reimagining's of Cap over the decades, and that's hardly a great cinematic either to highlight Cap, so he gives orders and fights machines? ok we see him giving orders and fighting overwhelming odds in TWS also, so what's the point exactly?
|
|
|
Post by Prime etc. on Sept 16, 2020 18:17:16 GMT
Also kind of missing his point, that cinematic is of 1 variation of Cap, there have been numerous reimagining's of Cap over the decades, and that's hardly a great cinematic either to highlight Cap, so he gives orders and fights machines? ok we see him giving orders and fighting overwhelming odds in TWS also, so what's the point exactly? That's what superheroes do they fight stuff. They are not supposed to discuss their underwear or treaties. It's LAME.
|
|
|
Post by PreachCaleb on Sept 16, 2020 18:27:17 GMT
Nope. That's not what wimpy means. Wimpy is doing un-super heroic things.
Are you saying that cinematic is not Captain America?
Incorrect on both.
|
|
|
Post by Prime etc. on Sept 16, 2020 18:30:42 GMT
so wimpy is doing superheroic things?
|
|
|
Post by PreachCaleb on Sept 16, 2020 19:30:15 GMT
so wimpy is doing superheroic things? Again, incorrect. Mowing the lawn isn't super heroic. But doing so doesn't make someone a wimp.
|
|
|
Post by Prime etc. on Sept 16, 2020 19:35:56 GMT
Again, incorrect. Mowing the lawn isn't super heroic. But doing so doesn't make someone a wimp. Mowing a lawn is wimpy if you see them doing that and not super powered stuff. What to you is more impressive action by a superhero chopping wood at super speed or saving people from some disaster?
|
|
|
Post by PreachCaleb on Sept 16, 2020 20:24:30 GMT
Again, incorrect. Mowing the lawn isn't super heroic. But doing so doesn't make someone a wimp. Mowing a lawn is wimpy if you see them doing that and not super powered stuff. What to you is more impressive action by a superhero chopping wood at super speed or saving people from some disaster?
Incorrect again. That's not what wimpy means. Both are impressive for different reasons.
|
|
|
Post by dazz on Sept 16, 2020 22:34:22 GMT
Again, incorrect. Mowing the lawn isn't super heroic. But doing so doesn't make someone a wimp. Mowing a lawn is wimpy if you see them doing that and not super powered stuff. What to you is more impressive action by a superhero chopping wood at super speed or saving people from some disaster?
You clearly have no clue what wimpy means so stop using it, you sound ridiculous, and no actually seeing superheroes doing for mundane things simply shows their super heroism in a greater light, as for what's more impressive well depends on the context, Smallville used regular chores as a way to highlight Clark's super powers, whilst Jonathan struggled with a single sack of grain over his shoulder Clark would be carrying a bag in each hand like they were couch cushions, rather than need to hammer posts into the ground with an actual hammer he would simply pick them up and do so in a single motion by hand, where as he would often need to save people in less impressive fashion in public to avoid unwanted attention being drawn to his abilities, so yeah context makes a difference. Also if superheroes are only ever shown doing superheroics then they aren't interesting or impressive they are just the norm, giving them down time where their human side can be seen not just their superhuman side allows you to connect to the characters more, that's why movies that lack those scenes to ever humanize their heroes are often forgotten about.
|
|
|
Post by Prime etc. on Sept 16, 2020 22:58:46 GMT
You clearly have no clue what wimpy means so stop using it, you sound ridiculous, and no actually seeing superheroes doing for mundane things simply shows their super heroism in a greater light, as for what's more impressive well depends on the context, Smallville used regular chores as a way to highlight Clark's super powers, whilst Jonathan struggled with a single sack of grain over his shoulder Clark would be carrying a bag in each hand like they were couch cushions, rather than need to hammer posts into the ground with an actual hammer he would simply pick them up and do so in a single motion by hand, where as he would often need to save people in less impressive fashion in public to avoid unwanted attention being drawn to his abilities, so yeah context makes a difference. Also if superheroes are only ever shown doing superheroics then they aren't interesting or impressive they are just the norm, giving them down time where their human side can be seen not just their superhuman side allows you to connect to the characters more, that's why movies that lack those scenes to ever humanize their heroes are often forgotten about. Superheroes are often erroneously compared to mythological figures but if we assume it for the sake of argument--how many times was Hercules shown hauling grain sacks around? Not much and the reason is because it isn't very interesting. Not unless they are magic or protected by a monster.
Superman kicking a football into the horizon was super, racing a train is super.
The trouble with your standard modern superhero movie is they do not want to show characters acting superheroic because it violates some kind of political rule and/or the creators have stunted imaginations. Smallville is not a superhero story in the classic sense--I mean the classic costumed superhero you see on the cover of comics. That sort of action is what superheroes are about, and anyone who says it isn't, or that underwear soiling or chopping wood is. does not know what they are talking about. I do not think Superboy carrying a sack in his arms would even make a comic book cover unless it was intended as a joke because it is not very interesting. A baby Superman picking up a car or a cow--yeah, that is more of a superhero kind of feat.
It's common sense.
The emphasis in your modern superhero movie is on the mundane, not the heroic. That's why when Captain America getting beat up saying "I can do this all day" is taken as some kind of symbol of courage--it is not courage to let yourself get beat up. It's courage to fight back against a bully.
BTW there are zero humanizing scenes in the Adventures of Captain Marvel and yet it is still highly regarded (also the first comic book superhero movie). No time for angst or doubt--not even the Billy Batson scenes.
There's no corny humor in it either. It takes the adventure seriously.
|
|
|
Post by dazz on Sept 17, 2020 1:09:56 GMT
You clearly have no clue what wimpy means so stop using it, you sound ridiculous, and no actually seeing superheroes doing for mundane things simply shows their super heroism in a greater light, as for what's more impressive well depends on the context, Smallville used regular chores as a way to highlight Clark's super powers, whilst Jonathan struggled with a single sack of grain over his shoulder Clark would be carrying a bag in each hand like they were couch cushions, rather than need to hammer posts into the ground with an actual hammer he would simply pick them up and do so in a single motion by hand, where as he would often need to save people in less impressive fashion in public to avoid unwanted attention being drawn to his abilities, so yeah context makes a difference. Also if superheroes are only ever shown doing superheroics then they aren't interesting or impressive they are just the norm, giving them down time where their human side can be seen not just their superhuman side allows you to connect to the characters more, that's why movies that lack those scenes to ever humanize their heroes are often forgotten about. Superheroes are often erroneously compared to mythological figures but if we assume it for the sake of argument--how many times was Hercules shown hauling grain sacks around? Not much and the reason is because it isn't very interesting. Not unless they are magic or protected by a monster.
Superman kicking a football into the horizon was super, racing a train is super.
The trouble with your standard modern superhero movie is they do not want to show characters acting superheroic because it violates some kind of political rule and/or the creators have stunted imaginations. Smallville is not a superhero story in the classic sense--I mean the classic costumed superhero you see on the cover of comics. That sort of action is what superheroes are about, and anyone who says it isn't, or that underwear soiling or chopping wood is. does not know what they are talking about. I do not think Superboy carrying a sack in his arms would even make a comic book cover unless it was intended as a joke because it is not very interesting. A baby Superman picking up a car or a cow--yeah, that is more of a superhero kind of feat.
It's common sense.
The emphasis in your modern superhero movie is on the mundane, not the heroic. That's why when Captain America getting beat up saying "I can do this all day" is taken as some kind of symbol of courage--it is not courage to let yourself get beat up. It's courage to fight back against a bully.
BTW there are zero humanizing scenes in the Adventures of Captain Marvel and yet it is still highly regarded (also the first comic book superhero movie). No time for angst or doubt--not even the Billy Batson scenes.
There's no corny humor in it either. It takes the adventure seriously.
You are conflating separate instances as one and only using the parts you want to make a false statement, Cap never lets himself get beat up by a bully, as weak little Steve he stands up to a bully and gets beat down showing courage and attempting to fight despite the odds, he faces an insurmountable foe but doesn't back down, as Cap he stands down and lets Bucky beat him because he can see the struggle in Bucky but gets the fighting is what he is programmed for, by Cap tossing away his shield and refusing to fight back, telling Bucky he's with him to the end it sparks Bucky's memory and brings him back out of his brainwashing, Bucky isn't a "bully", and the other times Cap says his I can do this all day line is to assert his never give up nature, during which he doesn't give up he keeps fighting no matter how hurt and broken he maybe. And yes the old hero tales don't often talk about the mundane stuff because that's not their purpose, they were intended to bring awe to those who heard them, superhero tales are meant to entertain, and due to the nature of entertainment today thast sort of storytelling has become dull, we had it in the past and we grew out of it, there is a reason that those Arnie, Sly, Willis, Norris, JCVD, Seagal movies which used to be lucrative box office hits became direct to DVD fare, people don't care, they want to connect to the characters not just be in awe of them, and a lot of the old tales and old movies did humanize their characters, just as quick and dirty as possible such as Hercules being driven mad to the point he kills his own family and to atone must complete his fabled labours, same in many of the 80's-90's action movies, heroes family is killed, threatened or kidnapped and so they fight to avenge, protect or rescue them, also Hercules or Heracles in one story is fored to do "womens work" for a year as penance for a murder so even then yes they are sometimes given mundane stories after all. And yes they do show the heroes being super, just it's not all they do, that stuff is used to establish their abilities once done they move on and refer to their abilities in less obvious ways, what superhero movies have no heroics? no big fight scenes? they simply build to them is all, as for the covers, I dunno looking at the first 50 Superman comic covers from way back when, Superman mind not Action Comics, 2/5 of them have Superman doing mundane things or just standing around, and more like em through the years, so this they now show them being dull is a lie, they have always shown superheroes both as heroes and as people, thats how people connect with them, who can connect with just an all powerful always on demi god? why do people care about Superman? It's not the powers, it's the person, it's how human he is, how despite being a new godlike being all he wants truly is to be Clark Kent a regular guy. You dislike the modern films, that's cool just don't make up all this bullshit to justify it, it's silly.
|
|
|
Post by Prime etc. on Sept 17, 2020 1:31:41 GMT
Superman mind not Action Comics, 2/5 of them have Superman doing mundane things or just standing around, and more like em through the years, so this they now show them being dull is a lie, they have always shown superheroes both as heroes and as people, thats how people connect with them, who can connect with just an all powerful always on demi god? why do people care about Superman? It's not the powers, it's the person, it's how human he is, how despite being a new godlike being all he wants truly is to be Clark Kent a regular guy. I said they used mundane things for comical covers. He got a haircut on one cover (the scissors broke).
But when you think of Superman or Captain America, is your first image of him being beaten up or defeated? It's probably him flying or catching a train or something. That's the classic image. Hercules doing women's work is not anyone's definition of him. In the Odyssey, they bring him up and they don't say "Hercules, you know, who did women's work for a year.." The original Captain America comics had him fighting werewolves etc.
Sitting around with Tony Stark discussing a treaty to sign is not superheroic.
Steve Rogers in his natural form, getting beaten up and taking the beating--it is not heroic obviously but some described it as that. If he found a way to turn the tables on his abusers despite his weaknesses, that would be heroic.
When Superman was beat up by the guy in the diner and Lois Lane attacked him, her response was more heroic than what Steve Rogers did by sitting there and taking the blows. Not fighting back is usually not considered a demonstration of heroism. It's not something usually considered a quality to strive for. Ideally.
|
|
|
Post by Nicko's Nose on Sept 17, 2020 2:56:08 GMT
So basically superhero movies should have superheroes that have no personality whatsoever and they should do nothing but fight from beginning to end. Yeah that sounds awesome bro.
|
|
|
Post by dazz on Sept 17, 2020 18:12:40 GMT
Superman mind not Action Comics, 2/5 of them have Superman doing mundane things or just standing around, and more like em through the years, so this they now show them being dull is a lie, they have always shown superheroes both as heroes and as people, thats how people connect with them, who can connect with just an all powerful always on demi god? why do people care about Superman? It's not the powers, it's the person, it's how human he is, how despite being a new godlike being all he wants truly is to be Clark Kent a regular guy. I said they used mundane things for comical covers. He got a haircut on one cover (the scissors broke).
But when you think of Superman or Captain America, is your first image of him being beaten up or defeated? It's probably him flying or catching a train or something. That's the classic image. Hercules doing women's work is not anyone's definition of him. In the Odyssey, they bring him up and they don't say "Hercules, you know, who did women's work for a year.." The original Captain America comics had him fighting werewolves etc.
Sitting around with Tony Stark discussing a treaty to sign is not superheroic.
Steve Rogers in his natural form, getting beaten up and taking the beating--it is not heroic obviously but some described it as that. If he found a way to turn the tables on his abusers despite his weaknesses, that would be heroic.
When Superman was beat up by the guy in the diner and Lois Lane attacked him, her response was more heroic than what Steve Rogers did by sitting there and taking the blows. Not fighting back is usually not considered a demonstration of heroism. It's not something usually considered a quality to strive for. Ideally.
God you are a simpleton, you cannot actually argue your point so you try shifting goalpost, no you are right when people think of Hercules they think of the 12 labours, son of Zeus and all that, but no one thinks of Cap as the wood chopper, of the scrawny kid that got beat up, they think of him as the guy leading the Avengers in New York, summoning Mjolnir, holding back a punch from Thanos, restraining a helicopter and so on, and like Hercules they give Cap less impressive moments and calm moments, Cap has had more mundane scene but it's to a lull in the movies so they can ratchet it back up to 11, single scenes of normalcy do not define the characters, just like single silly issues of comics do not define characters like Superman and Batman who have had ridiculously stupid issues over the years. Skinny Steve didn't just take a beating, he tried fighting back but he was overwhelmed, you say that's not heroic but it's not really different than the Spartans in 300, facing an overwhelming force with defeat being a sure thing but not backing down and not compromising ones ideals is heroic, courage is heroic, you mentioned the Superman scene, guess what superman coming back at the end to beat up that guy, do we define Superman by that one petty bullying act? no because we aren't stupid, so why are you being stupid regarding Cap? As for the covers no they used a lot of mundane stuff just for mundanity, they did comedy action covers also, they did all sorts of things for it to be funny, impressive, simple, relatable, enticing or shocking, whatever it was they felt like, they never felt the need to always be like aaaahaaaa look upon the wonder of Superman tada, it was one week Superman is lifting a building, the next he's getting a tooth pulled, the next he's got writers block then he's doing a kissing booth, now he's meeting a martian and so on, so your bakc in the day they did this is fucking bollocks mate, in the comics also well they had what 30 pages to tell a story so a lot of stuff got cut out and just told to you, in the movies they have 2+ hours to tell a story and they need to seperate the action so it goes in peaks and valleys, so to flesh out the story and character they add more human elements, and guess what? it works, people care about the characters more, what is an issue with Superman? he's too powerful and unrelatable to those who don't see past the powers, for those who do he's an amazing character because of who he is with or without his powers, Superman is eye catching yes, but Clark Kent/Kal-El is intriguing and what makes people want to see more of the character.
|
|
|
Post by Prime etc. on Sept 17, 2020 18:23:44 GMT
you mentioned the Superman scene, guess what superman coming back at the end to beat up that guy, do we define Superman by that one petty bullying act? You are the simpleton and I was wondering if someone would object to the scene when he goes back to beat up the trucker. Yep-sure enough. In 1981 people thought the scene was satisfying because it indicated Superman wasn't going to let him (or rather Clark Kent) be disrespected like that. What is wrong with him beating the guy up? He was a thug--how many other people did be abuse? I am not surprised you think he should have given him a hug instead.
As for the Hercules-CA comparison--the point was that in movies etc, much of the time Hercules is engaged in some heroic mission, while Captain America spends much of the time either sitting around or reacting to other people's actions. He isn't leading or doing anything like a classic superhero MOST of the time. Fighting Tony Stark is not the same as going after a villain.
|
|
|
Post by dazz on Sept 17, 2020 19:22:08 GMT
you mentioned the Superman scene, guess what superman coming back at the end to beat up that guy, do we define Superman by that one petty bullying act? You are the simpleton and I was wondering if someone would object to the scene when he goes back to beat up the trucker. Yep-sure enough. In 1981 people thought the scene was satisfying because it indicated Superman wasn't going to let him (or rather Clark Kent) be disrespected like that. What is wrong with him beating the guy up? He was a thug--how many other people did be abuse? I am not surprised you think he should have given him a hug instead.
As for the Hercules-CA comparison--the point was that in movies etc, much of the time Hercules is engaged in some heroic mission, while Captain America spends much of the time either sitting around or reacting to other people's actions. He isn't leading or doing anything like a classic superhero MOST of the time. Fighting Tony Stark is not the same as going after a villain.
I never said that, see making shit up to pretend to make a point, I asked do we define Superman for one petty act? no we don't, we see him as a symbol of righteousness, he doesn't behave pettily, after all why else does he not hang Luthor off of a gargoyle by his underwear for the world to see? because it's beneath Superman to do so, people disliked the similar scene in MOS with the arsehole trucker, but again it's not to say wether it was well received or not, but is this the image of Superman most of us hold? no, actually the Superman of Superman 2 isnt one most hold to be Superman given he kills Zod and takes revenge on the dickhead in the diner, people remember the Superman that stands for ideals, because one or two scenes do not define the characters, that is my point which you, you dummy clearly missed. Much time huh, really Cap spends much time debating Tony? he spends less than 10 minutes debating Tony in Civil War, he spends like 15-20 minutes leading his team at the airport scene, he spends 10 minutes on the opening mission leading his team, he spends like 8 minutes rescuing Bucky from the police and Panther, then there's the final fight which goes about 10 minutes, so thats 10 minutes of Cap talking with Tony and about 45 of Cap in action, he's also led the charges against the Chitauri, helped Tony restart the helicarriers engines, and fought Loki in Avengers, led the Howling commando's vs Hydra through TFA, led the Avengers on the Hyrda strike, and Ultron battles in AOU, he rescued Vision and Wanda in Infinity War and was one of the leaders during the battle of Wakanda, fought his alt self in Endgame and wielded Mjolnir to fight Thanos and his army in Endgame, but yeah you keep nagging on those 2 or 3 minute scenes where Cap isn't being all "super" and shit, those collective what 20 minutes over 7 movies really make Cap look like a pussy.
|
|
|
Post by Prime etc. on Sept 17, 2020 19:31:46 GMT
I never said that, see making shit up to pretend to make a point, I asked do we define Superman for one petty act? no we don't, we see him as a symbol of righteousness, he doesn't behave pettily, Why was it petty? He got badly beaten up (without his powers). The guy was a bully.
The fact that he wanted to do something about it was for the benefit of the diner customers and for his own benefit (doesn't he have a right to do something for himself?). I am judging the movies on a case by case basis and was specifically referencing Winter Soldier--his superhero antics were limited. Even at the start he takes off his mask to fight the guy. Anyway Superman 1 and 2 had more classic superhero stuff than your average Marvel movie.
|
|
|
Post by dazz on Sept 17, 2020 20:45:57 GMT
I never said that, see making shit up to pretend to make a point, I asked do we define Superman for one petty act? no we don't, we see him as a symbol of righteousness, he doesn't behave pettily, Why was it petty? He got badly beaten up (without his powers). The guy was a bully.
The fact that he wanted to do something about it was for the benefit of the diner customers and for his own benefit (doesn't he have a right to do something for himself?). I am judging the movies on a case by case basis and was specifically referencing Winter Soldier--his superhero antics were limited. Even at the start he takes off his mask to fight the guy. Anyway Superman 1 and 2 had more classic superhero stuff than your average Marvel movie.
Because he did so only to not put the guy in his place but show the guy up and humiliate him, look at what he does, and how he does it, he goes out of his way to show him up, and he went there to do so that way also, hence taking that much cash to cover the cost, he could have simply turned up as Superman said he overheard some loudmouth and let it be known he does not like bullies, it would put the guy in his place but be less humiliating to have Superman stand up to you rather than meek Clark Kent, and a guy being a bully when to a non-powered clark is not the same thing, powers or not Clark's a big and presumably strong dude other guy was just bigger and stronger + a jerk, Clark with his powers is so far beyond the guy it's blatantly unfair, like pitting a housecat against a tiger, or like an adult saying it's ok to beat up this 8 year old because he hit me with a baseball bat for no fucking reason, like no it's not, that kid cannot defend themselves against an adult just like a normal person cannot defend themselves against Superman, it's one thing for Superman to step in and prevent crime and violence, it's another for him to physically attack someone just for revenge or being a jerk, doing so it's petty but it's not what we see Superman as, we see him as being above that, which is what so many of his stories represent. No you really are not judging them case by case, if you were you wouldn't be combining ever mundane thing Cap does in the MCU as a single incident, but overlook all the other heroic or super stuff he does, your just nitpicking and making up bullshit. Also no shit that Superman 1 and 2 have more "classic" superhero moment's they are the first 2 major cbm's most of the "classic" superhero stuff comes from those movies, they established the superhero tropes, it's one of the most obvious and there for moronic points to try and make, why not say hey you know the first human who figured out how to make fire he did something no other human ever did before like no fucking shit Einstein did you also know that since last guy to die from the bubonic plague passed away no one else has ever died from it? fucking mind blowing aint it? I mean it's like why is it you always find your keys in the last place you look...
|
|
|
Post by Prime etc. on Sept 17, 2020 20:56:37 GMT
Because he did so only to not put the guy in his place but show the guy up and humiliate him, look at what he does, and how he does it, he goes out of his way to show him up, and he went there to do so that way also, hence taking that much cash to cover the cost, he could have simply turned up as Superman said he overheard some loudmouth and let it be known he does not like bullies, it would put the guy in his place but be less humiliating to have Superman stand up to you rather than meek Clark Kent, and a guy being a bully when to a non-powered clark is not the same thing, powers or not Clark's a big and presumably strong dude other guy was just bigger and stronger + a jerk, Clark with his powers is so far beyond the guy it's blatantly unfair, like pitting a housecat against a tiger, or like an adult saying it's ok to beat up this 8 year old because he hit me with a baseball bat for no fucking reason, like no it's not, that kid cannot defend themselves against an adult just like a normal person cannot defend themselves against Superman, it's one thing for Superman to step in and prevent crime and violence, it's another for him to physically attack someone just for revenge or being a jerk, doing so it's petty but it's not what we see Superman as, we see him as being above that, which is what so many of his stories represent. This is an example where a superhero movie did a surprise-since yes, they could have had Superman fly in and give a lecture to the guy, but it wouldn't have been as dramatic as him doing it as Clark Kent. It would have been pathetic actually. Oh I am sure you will disagree.
But the guy savagely beat him, he might have even killed him if Lois didn't intervene. The impression was that "Mr Wonderful" was causing trouble there for some time.
|
|
|
Post by dazz on Sept 17, 2020 21:25:38 GMT
Because he did so only to not put the guy in his place but show the guy up and humiliate him, look at what he does, and how he does it, he goes out of his way to show him up, and he went there to do so that way also, hence taking that much cash to cover the cost, he could have simply turned up as Superman said he overheard some loudmouth and let it be known he does not like bullies, it would put the guy in his place but be less humiliating to have Superman stand up to you rather than meek Clark Kent, and a guy being a bully when to a non-powered clark is not the same thing, powers or not Clark's a big and presumably strong dude other guy was just bigger and stronger + a jerk, Clark with his powers is so far beyond the guy it's blatantly unfair, like pitting a housecat against a tiger, or like an adult saying it's ok to beat up this 8 year old because he hit me with a baseball bat for no fucking reason, like no it's not, that kid cannot defend themselves against an adult just like a normal person cannot defend themselves against Superman, it's one thing for Superman to step in and prevent crime and violence, it's another for him to physically attack someone just for revenge or being a jerk, doing so it's petty but it's not what we see Superman as, we see him as being above that, which is what so many of his stories represent. This is an example where a superhero movie did a surprise-since yes, they could have had Superman fly in and give a lecture to the guy, but it wouldn't have been as dramatic as him doing it as Clark Kent. It would have been pathetic actually. Oh I am sure you will disagree.
But the guy savagely beat him, he might have even killed him if Lois didn't intervene. The impression was that "Mr Wonderful" was causing trouble there for some time.
So what is your point you are trying to make, one minutre you are whining like abitch over this isn't what cap is like, he doesn't chop wood or talk treaties he fights da baddies waaaahaaa, next minute you are like YES this is Superman not acting Superman like, look who thought Superman would beat up a rando bully fucking excellent, do you want the iconic "true" representations or not? Also who said lecture you fucking moron, I said he could come in as Superman and say he overheard the jerk and he doesn't like him, your pea brain went to lecture, mine was he comes in as Superman and bows up to the guy and puts him in his place letting him know there maybe people out there he can bully but Superman is not one of them and he hears all of his shit, you know intimidate but not assault the dickhead, sort of like what he does with Luthor, he tells him hey arsehole I am on to you so watch yourself, now obviously diner dickwad would shit his pants where as Lex just brushes it off and thinks ok challenge accepted superdick, but that's the difference between a bully and a psychotic supervillain. But your lecture thing IS classic superman stuff, that's what a lot of the old shit used to be, Superman using his Superman status to bring forth a positive message, so all this whining is fucking bullshit, again you just dislike the MCU films, that's cool but say it honestly, stop trying to lie and act like there s some greater reason behind it you lying pillock.
|
|