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Post by Winston Wolfe on Feb 18, 2021 1:23:10 GMT
New York Mets minor league legend Tim Tebow retires.
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Post by Winston Wolfe on Feb 18, 2021 1:44:36 GMT
Tatis Jr. agrees to a FOURTEEN year, $340 mill extension.
Mercy!
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Post by SportsFan19 on Feb 18, 2021 1:52:15 GMT
Tatis Jr. agrees to a FOURTEEN year, $340 mill extension. Mercy! Where is San Diego getting their money all of a sudden? And does he finish that contract in San Diego?
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Post by Winston Wolfe on Feb 18, 2021 2:31:21 GMT
Tatis Jr. agrees to a FOURTEEN year, $340 mill extension. Mercy! Where is San Diego getting their money all of a sudden? And does he finish that contract in San Diego? No idea. But if he gets injured badly or somehow turns into a bust, theyβll be dead in the water.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Feb 18, 2021 2:41:03 GMT
Where is San Diego getting their money all of a sudden? And does he finish that contract in San Diego? No idea. But if he gets injured badly or somehow turns into a bust, theyβll be dead in the water. Rick DiPietro 15 years $67.5 million. Isles bought him out with 8(!) years left. From Wikipedia: The buyout was completed 2 days later with DiPietro agreeing to be paid 2/3s of the $36 million he would have been owed over the next 8 years at a rate of $1.5 million per year over the next 16 years.
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Post by tristramshandy on Feb 18, 2021 3:14:07 GMT
Tatis Jr. agrees to a FOURTEEN year, $340 mill extension. Mercy! My son is in 4th grade and has two different Tatis shirts and a Tatis poster on his wall. When he finishes college, there will still be two years left on this deal.
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Post by nutsberryfarm π on Feb 18, 2021 23:01:37 GMT
Tatis Jr. agrees to a FOURTEEN year, $340 mill extension. Mercy! Where is San Diego getting their money all of a sudden? And does he finish that contract in San Diego? Very suspicious π€¨
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Post by klawrencio79 on Feb 18, 2021 23:14:16 GMT
Tatis Jr. agrees to a FOURTEEN year, $340 mill extension. Mercy! Where is San Diego getting their money all of a sudden? And does he finish that contract in San Diego? In addition to a very lucrative TV deal they signed in 2012 which has annual escalations in terms of payouts for the team, they had an ownership group that included Peter Seidler, a hedge fund guy worth multiple billions (a la Steve Cohen of the Mets). While Ron Fowler was the foremost owner, he stepped down after last season and Seidler became the head honcho. There is probably tons of information about why this happened, to which I am not privy, but every baseball team, even the "poorest" of them, is backed by big money and they ostensibly have licenses to print cash vis-a-vis these TV contracts. When baseball owners whine about how they "lost money" last season, it's bullshit. They just didn't make the profits to which they are accustomed. They still made money. And they're billionaires (most of them are anyway). Look no further than the fact that every time they bitch about losing money, they still refuse to open up their books. With the CBA negotiations hanging over everyone's heads like a Sword of Damocles, the last thing the owners want is proof as to just how much money they make.
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Post by SportsFan19 on Feb 19, 2021 10:29:45 GMT
Where is San Diego getting their money all of a sudden? And does he finish that contract in San Diego? In addition to a very lucrative TV deal they signed in 2012 which has annual escalations in terms of payouts for the team, they had an ownership group that included Peter Seidler, a hedge fund guy worth multiple billions (a la Steve Cohen of the Mets).Β While Ron Fowler was the foremost owner, he stepped down after last season and Seidler became the head honcho.Β There is probably tons of information about why this happened, to which I am not privy, but every baseball team, even the "poorest" of them, is backed by big money and they ostensibly have licenses to print cash vis-a-vis these TV contracts.Β When baseball owners whine about how they "lost money" last season, it's bullshit. They just didn't make the profits to which they are accustomed.Β They still made money.Β And they're billionaires (most of them are anyway).Β Β Look no further than the fact that every time they bitch about losing money, they still refuse to open up their books.Β With the CBA negotiations hanging over everyone's heads like a Sword of Damocles, the last thing the owners want is proof as to just how much money they make.Β Β Is the financial dichotomy between the Yankees and say... the Marlins not as extreme as we're led to believe?
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Post by nutsberryfarm π on Feb 19, 2021 16:07:18 GMT
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Post by klawrencio79 on Feb 19, 2021 16:36:33 GMT
In addition to a very lucrative TV deal they signed in 2012 which has annual escalations in terms of payouts for the team, they had an ownership group that included Peter Seidler, a hedge fund guy worth multiple billions (a la Steve Cohen of the Mets). While Ron Fowler was the foremost owner, he stepped down after last season and Seidler became the head honcho. There is probably tons of information about why this happened, to which I am not privy, but every baseball team, even the "poorest" of them, is backed by big money and they ostensibly have licenses to print cash vis-a-vis these TV contracts. When baseball owners whine about how they "lost money" last season, it's bullshit. They just didn't make the profits to which they are accustomed. They still made money. And they're billionaires (most of them are anyway). Look no further than the fact that every time they bitch about losing money, they still refuse to open up their books. With the CBA negotiations hanging over everyone's heads like a Sword of Damocles, the last thing the owners want is proof as to just how much money they make. Is the financial dichotomy between the Yankees and say... the Marlins not as extreme as we're led to believe? The Yankees definitely have more to work with than the Marlins do, so sure there's a dichotomy, but the key distinction is that while the Yankees are rich, the Marlins are by no means poor. Owners like that of the Indians, Rockies, etc., they just don't give a shit because they make money either way, why should they sink another $50m into their roster when owning the team is already profitable? This is exactly how they think and that's exactly why they traded Arenado (well, that and he wanted out because their GM sucks but he has naked photos of the owner or something). The Indians can pay Francisco Lindor, they didn't just didn't want to. Hell, look at what the Athletics do. They have actually convinced their fans that capturing the Wild Card and losing in the first round of the playoffs every year on a razor thin budget is an admirable quality, such that some fans actually wear it as a badge of honor. They could have easily paid Josh Donaldson, just as they can easily pay Matt Olson and Matt Chapman. But they won't (although they did just pony up some cash for Trevor Rosenthal). They're amazing at scouting and developing players, which is why they're always competitive, but as long as they make money regardless of what they do, they view long-term contracts as nothing more than sunk costs. It's insulting. Oh, and by the way, Oakland's owner, John Fisher, has an estimated net worth of $2.8b and, get this, during the pandemic, his net worth went up by about $700m, all the while crying poverty about how baseball isn't profitable. Fuck him. It is not only insulting to A's fans, it's a giant "fuck you" to the American public who are eking out an existence paycheck to paycheck, yet manage to scrounge together enough nickels to take their kids to the games, just to watch tomorrow's Yankee stars.
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Post by hi224 on Feb 19, 2021 16:39:54 GMT
Is the financial dichotomy between the Yankees and say... the Marlins not as extreme as we're led to believe? The Yankees definitely have more to work with than the Marlins do, so sure there's a dichotomy, but the key distinction is that while the Yankees are rich, the Marlins are by no means poor. Owners like that of the Indians, Rockies, etc., they just don't give a shit because they make money either way, why should they sink another $50m into their roster when owning the team is already profitable? This is exactly how they think and that's exactly why they traded Arenado (well, that and he wanted out because their GM sucks but he has naked photos of the owner or something). The Indians can pay Francisco Lindor, they didn't just didn't want to. Hell, look at what the Athletics do. They have actually convinced their fans that capturing the Wild Card and losing in the first round of the playoffs every year on a razor thin budget is an admirable quality, such that some fans actually wear it as a badge of honor. They could have easily paid Josh Donaldson, just as they can easily pay Matt Olson and Matt Chapman. But they won't (although they did just pony up some cash for Trevor Rosenthal). They're amazing at scouting and developing players, which is why they're always competitive, but as long as they make money regardless of what they do, they view long-term contracts as nothing more than sunk costs. It's insulting. you also have the flipside of that with the Angels where they pay out the behind on players and end up with tepid results.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Feb 19, 2021 16:41:24 GMT
The Yankees definitely have more to work with than the Marlins do, so sure there's a dichotomy, but the key distinction is that while the Yankees are rich, the Marlins are by no means poor. Owners like that of the Indians, Rockies, etc., they just don't give a shit because they make money either way, why should they sink another $50m into their roster when owning the team is already profitable? This is exactly how they think and that's exactly why they traded Arenado (well, that and he wanted out because their GM sucks but he has naked photos of the owner or something). The Indians can pay Francisco Lindor, they didn't just didn't want to. Hell, look at what the Athletics do. They have actually convinced their fans that capturing the Wild Card and losing in the first round of the playoffs every year on a razor thin budget is an admirable quality, such that some fans actually wear it as a badge of honor. They could have easily paid Josh Donaldson, just as they can easily pay Matt Olson and Matt Chapman. But they won't (although they did just pony up some cash for Trevor Rosenthal). They're amazing at scouting and developing players, which is why they're always competitive, but as long as they make money regardless of what they do, they view long-term contracts as nothing more than sunk costs. It's insulting. you also have the flipside of that with the Angels where they pay out the behind on players and end up with tepid results. Well, spending money is one thing, but it's also important to spend it wisely. The Angels aren't shy about opening up their wallets, but they don't spend wisely on pitching and other than Trout, they suck donkey nuts at development.
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Post by Shane Falco on Feb 20, 2021 1:46:34 GMT
you also have the flipside of that with the Angels where they pay out the behind on players and end up with tepid results.Β Well, spending money is one thing, but it's also important to spend it wisely.Β The Angels aren't shy about opening up their wallets, but they don't spend wisely on pitching and other than Trout, they suck donkey nuts at development.Β Β The Angels are basically the 2000's Rangers. A lot of money tied up and not a starting pitcher to be found.
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Post by nutsberryfarm π on Feb 21, 2021 16:45:07 GMT
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Post by hi224 on Feb 21, 2021 17:14:38 GMT
Well, spending money is one thing, but it's also important to spend it wisely.Β The Angels aren't shy about opening up their wallets, but they don't spend wisely on pitching and other than Trout, they suck donkey nuts at development.Β Β The Angels are basically the 2000's Rangers. A lot of money tied up and not a starting pitcher to be found. I have alot of friends who are angels fans, and all feel the same way regarding that teams whole inability to get some decent pitching and not spend money recklessly
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Post by Winston Wolfe on Feb 21, 2021 21:37:18 GMT
Ian Desmond is opting out of his second straight season.
Money well spent for the Rocks.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Feb 21, 2021 22:11:16 GMT
Ian Desmond is opting out of his second straight season. Money well spent for the Rocks. At least they get that money back. If anything, he's doing them an incredible favor given how awful he has been since joining them. He has made over $91m in his career so I don't feel bad for him, but it's amusing to think that he rejected a 7 year deal north of $100m once upon a time from the Nats and has been nothing short of atrocious since then.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Feb 22, 2021 3:51:50 GMT
Spring Training tweets thread...
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Feb 22, 2021 4:33:33 GMT
Ian Desmond is opting out of his second straight season. Money well spent for the Rocks. βWith the first pick in the 2022 Draft, the Colorado Rockies select ...β That team is becoming a shipwreck
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