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Post by Downey on Apr 3, 2021 18:43:08 GMT
I just never thought that in a light belching big lizard fights big monkey movie that someone would walk away from that and think... "What the fuck kind of spaceships are those?" It's just too funny to stop replying to you when the OP makes me laugh everytime I get a notification from you on this thread. Yeah, a giant pinocchio showing up would be as ridiculous but so would your thread too. BLAH BLAH BLAH LA LA LA LA LA
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Apr 3, 2021 18:49:42 GMT
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Post by janntosh on Apr 4, 2021 5:56:31 GMT
The human stuff in this movie is unbearable. The action is decent but would have been more impressive in 2001, not 2021
Kong Skull Island is far and away the best film in this franchise and if I had to choose another one of the four it would be KOTM
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Post by janntosh on Apr 4, 2021 6:07:19 GMT
How is it that the 1954 Godzilla is actually better than all these modern movies?
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Post by Downey on Apr 4, 2021 6:38:53 GMT
How is it that the 1954 Godzilla is actually better than all these modern movies? Because it isn't. The 1950s overweight university student trying to make extra money after lectures by stepping on Lego cities in studios dressed like an idiot was never better than anything. At least you can watch these new Godzilla movies without thinking to yourself if this useless idiot does birthday parties for toddlers on Tuesdays or not.
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Post by jonesjxd on Apr 9, 2021 10:22:54 GMT
This is a movie where it's perfectly acceptable to just read the first 3/4 of the Wikipedia plot summary and only look up from your phone or laptop for the amount of screen time where Kong or Godzilla or both are on screen. I saw the movie at the theater and paid attention to the movie and couldn't explain to you the plot, but maybe that's because I didn't see Godzilla 2 or know anything about Hollow Earth Theory. It's just impossible to rate this movie as a complete 2 hour movie, when literally the only minutes that matter are when the monsters are on screen, and in those minutes it's incredibly fun and entertaining.
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Post by Winter_King on Apr 9, 2021 11:02:37 GMT
Of all the things in the movie that struck me as dumb, one if the dumbest was Brian Tyree Henry's character doing a conspiracy podcast where here talks about the super secret place where he works without disguising his voice at all. Literally all it would take is for one co-worker to hear the podcast and be like, "Hey, I recognize that voice". Judging by the security of the Apex industries or whatever it was called, I'm not surprised no co-worker recognized him. The place was always empty.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2021 13:29:48 GMT
This is a movie where it's perfectly acceptable to just read the first 3/4 of the Wikipedia plot summary and only look up from your phone or laptop for the amount of screen time where Kong or Godzilla or both are on screen. I saw the movie at the theater and paid attention to the movie and couldn't explain to you the plot, but maybe that's because I didn't see Godzilla 2 or know anything about Hollow Earth Theory. It's just impossible to rate this movie as a complete 2 hour movie, when literally the only minutes that matter are when the monsters are on screen, and in those minutes it's incredibly fun and entertaining. I would say, imho. Could you imagine if this film had amazing characters and a wonderful script/story? Wow. This could have been a home run. Avatar or Jurassic Park level success. Because you’re right. When they fight, it’s so epic and looks amazing.
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 10, 2021 17:33:52 GMT
Giving a child an important role is a drag. It would be like ALIENS with Newt defeating the queen. That is what they would do now. She would press the button that sends the alien out of the ship. The Greta of science fiction.
You can see the efforts to combat "toxic masculinity" even back then. Ripley does what all the marines couldnt do. Bishop helps but he's an android. What does Hicks do? He gets injured. That's his big achievement. He's the top marine guy but what does he do help the story along? Zilch really. At least Hudson keeps the aliens at bay for a little while.
"Oh you want some too? Fuck you!"
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Post by moviemouth on Apr 12, 2021 23:10:57 GMT
I definitely like it better than you and I definitely like it better than King of the Monsters. The first half is boring, in large part because the characters and directing is boring. Once they go into the center of the Earth the movie gets quite a bit better imo. One thing I noticed is that they Millie Bobbie Brown character and the 2 guys she is with are completely pointless. You could take edit their scenes out of the movie and almost nothing would change. 5.5/10 I thought the same thing. You could just show the evil guy and his henchmen (driver) a few times in cut scenes to show they are up to something, then MechaGodzilla emerges. What purpose did Eleven from Stranger Things and those two guys serve? They uncovered the truth? So what? Did it change anything in the story? Did they stop MechaGodzilla? What if they had uncovered a weakness that they could have used to help Kong defeat MechaGodzilla? Wouldn’t that have been cool? Every time it cut to them, I felt like i was bored. I was waiting for them to go back to Kong.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 12, 2021 23:55:26 GMT
I definitely like it better than you and I definitely like it better than King of the Monsters. The first half is boring, in large part because the characters and directing is boring. Once they go into the center of the Earth the movie gets quite a bit better imo. One thing I noticed is that the Millie Bobbie Brown character and the 2 guys she is with are completely pointless. You could edit their scenes out of the movie and almost nothing would change. 5.5/10 They hack the system or whatever and stop Mechagodzilla from killing Kong at the last possible moment. Then Godzilla supercharges Kong's axe and the two monsters take MG down. Not to defend the movie by any means and I don't think any of the characters brought much to the table storywise. But these three did play a minor role in the final fight, just like Skarsgard using his Whatever Device as a defibrillator on Kong. I'd probably give it a 4/10 at the most. I thoroughly enjoyed Godzilla (2014), it's the best of the franchise. Skull Island and KOTM were terrible movies with cardboard cutouts for characters who I actively despised. GvK somehow didn't bother me as much, maybe because my expectations were ridiculously low. GvK does have a few rewatchable moments, which is more than I can say for the two previous installments, but it isn't a film I need to revisit anytime soon, if ever.
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Post by moviemouth on Apr 13, 2021 0:43:43 GMT
I definitely like it better than you and I definitely like it better than King of the Monsters. The first half is boring, in large part because the characters and directing is boring. Once they go into the center of the Earth the movie gets quite a bit better imo. One thing I noticed is that the Millie Bobbie Brown character and the 2 guys she is with are completely pointless. You could edit their scenes out of the movie and almost nothing would change. 5.5/10 They hack the system or whatever and stop Mechagodzilla from killing Kong at the last possible moment. Then Godzilla supercharges Kong's axe and the two monsters take MG down. Not to defend the movie by any means and I don't think any of the characters brought much to the table storywise. But these three did play a minor role in the final fight, just like Skarsgard using his Whatever Device as a defibrillator on Kong. I'd probably give it a 4/10 at the most. I thoroughly enjoyed Godzilla (2014), it's the best of the franchise. Skull Island and KOTM were terrible movies with cardboard cutouts for characters who I actively despised. GvK somehow didn't bother me as much, maybe because my expectations were ridiculously low. GvK does have a few rewatchable moments, which is more than I can say for the two previous installments, but it isn't a film I need to revisit anytime soon, if ever. I didn't say they didn't do anything, but the very little they did could have been done without them. My favorite is easily King: Skull Island and I don't even like that movie, but this is because I am not a Godzilla fan. I don't mind the characters in the movie and John C. Reilly is the most interesting character and easily the best performance of this whole new franchise. The main reasons are location, atmosphere, time period, creatures and action scene though. I always have loved the King Kong mythos, but Godzilla bores me. The reason the original is good is because it is a smart movie that Godzilla is largely absent from. This is why Kong vs. Godzilla is my second favorite. Dumb as it is, it is more fun than the dull Godzilla movie. I even prefer the ridiculously moronic 1998 giant lizard movie called Godzilla more than the 2014 movie. At least that movie is fun. Kong: Skull Island - 6/10 Kong vs. Godzilla - 5.5/10 Godzilla (2014) - 5.5/10 King of the Monsters - 4.5/10
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Post by Mulder and Scully on Apr 13, 2021 1:08:09 GMT
I thought Godzilla Vs Kong was awful. It was more of same King of the Monsters crap with bad dialogue and poor comedy. The characters are boring and you simply don't care about them. The action isn't special and I noticed some clunky CGI. Both these movies reminded of those crappy Transformers sequels.
Kong: Skull Island is easily the best monster movie, IMO.
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Post by Sarge on Apr 13, 2021 2:39:56 GMT
The pitch must have gone like this, okay we have the rights for Godzilla vs King Kong, we need a plot... and that point someone should have smacked that man across the mouth and put someone else in charge. In all honesty it's one of the dumbest big budget movies I've ever seen, it might even be dumber than The Core and GOT-S8. The main female lead's sole purpose is to translate sign language from a child to a man, whose job is to be the butt of jokes. And the idea of building a cage on an island that has kept him trapped is silly. Oh, and then what my daughter called, "Kong Magic!" The script must have been written by interns from the local jr high.
edit, you know who should have written the script: Vince McMahon. Dead serious. Imagine how awesome this movie would have been.
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Post by jonesjxd on Apr 13, 2021 10:29:20 GMT
This is a movie where it's perfectly acceptable to just read the first 3/4 of the Wikipedia plot summary and only look up from your phone or laptop for the amount of screen time where Kong or Godzilla or both are on screen. I saw the movie at the theater and paid attention to the movie and couldn't explain to you the plot, but maybe that's because I didn't see Godzilla 2 or know anything about Hollow Earth Theory. It's just impossible to rate this movie as a complete 2 hour movie, when literally the only minutes that matter are when the monsters are on screen, and in those minutes it's incredibly fun and entertaining. I would say, imho. Could you imagine if this film had amazing characters and a wonderful script/story? Wow. This could have been a home run. Avatar or Jurassic Park level success. Because you’re right. When they fight, it’s so epic and looks amazing. But the thing is that there's actually very little dinosaur action in Jurassic Park, the film starts with a dinosaur kill scene where you barely even get a glimpse of the raptor, then the next 20 minutes is the legal bureaucratic aftermath of that event, then we see a dinosaur, then the next 10-15 minutes are about the moral implications of it, then it becomes about Grant's struggle with being confronted about his unwillingness to grow up as kids are introduced into the movie and Malcolm moves in on his much younger but much more mature girlfriend. Then we see a dinosaur, but then immediately after the movie becomes about the storm, Nedry's corporate espionage, the characters being separated, and only now, like an hour or change into the movie does it become about dinosaur action. All of this works because Spielberg isn't making a movie about dinosaur action, he's making his version of Mary's Shelley's Frankenstein. It isn't until the sequels where the movies become about total nonstop dino carnage, with some contrived plot stuff sprinkled in. Adam Wingard made a fourth sequel to a franchise, it had to be about monsters fighting, not lawsuits or divorces, or corporate espionage, or getting electricity to work.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2021 12:14:48 GMT
I would say, imho. Could you imagine if this film had amazing characters and a wonderful script/story? Wow. This could have been a home run. Avatar or Jurassic Park level success. Because you’re right. When they fight, it’s so epic and looks amazing. But the thing is that there's actually very little dinosaur action in Jurassic Park, the film starts with a dinosaur kill scene where you barely even get a glimpse of the raptor, then the next 20 minutes is the legal bureaucratic aftermath of that event, then we see a dinosaur, then the next 10-15 minutes are about the moral implications of it, then it becomes about Grant's struggle with being confronted about his unwillingness to grow up as kids are introduced into the movie and Malcolm moves in on his much younger but much more mature girlfriend. Then we see a dinosaur, but then immediately after the movie becomes about the storm, Nedry's corporate espionage, the characters being separated, and only now, like an hour or change into the movie does it become about dinosaur action. All of this works because Spielberg isn't making a movie about dinosaur action, he's making his version of Mary's Shelley's Frankenstein. It isn't until the sequels where the movies become about total nonstop dino carnage, with some contrived plot stuff sprinkled in. Adam Wingard made a fourth sequel to a franchise, it had to be about monsters fighting, not lawsuits or divorces, or corporate espionage, or getting electricity to work. But that’s good story telling. The suspense. The build up. It’s terrifying when the TRex attacks the kids. I never forgot that. I don’t remember 90% of the action packed Monster movies or Transformers films. You see it, it looks cool. Then you forget about it. Jurassic Park isn’t about the dinosaurs. I’ll never forget that theater experience. It’s like Hitchcock with dinosaurs.
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Post by sdrew13163 on May 3, 2021 14:14:22 GMT
Saw it, only kinda liked it.
The final fight was pretty awesome, but getting there was rough. The humans are all insufferable except the deaf kid, but even she became an annoying plot device. The Hollow Earth stuff was really cool and I’d easily watch an entire movie that takes place down there.
I still think they need a human-less movie now. Either down in in Kong’s domain in the center of the earth or in a Prehistoric era. The humans are taking away from the movie instead of just simply being worthless. They’ve gotta go at some point to see if they can make it work.
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Post by Mulder and Scully on May 3, 2021 15:21:01 GMT
Saw it, only kinda liked it. The final fight was pretty awesome, but getting there was rough. The humans are all insufferable except the deaf kid, but even she became an annoying plot device. The Hollow Earth stuff was really cool and I’d easily watch an entire movie that takes place down there. I still think they need a human-less movie now. Either down in in Kong’s domain in the center of the earth or in a Prehistoric era. The humans are taking away from the movie instead of just simply being worthless. They’ve gotta go at some point to see if they can make it work. Yeah, the Hollow Earth scenes had a sense of wonder about them. An entire movie set in the Hollow Earth would be amazing. I also like your suggestion about setting these movies in a Prehistoric era. They have teased about the Prehistoric origins since the 2014's Godzilla, on how these creatures are millions of years older than mankind. It could work.
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Post by Prime etc. on May 3, 2021 16:55:55 GMT
Jurassic Park only has 6 minutes of cgi. I don't think the mechanical dinosaurs make up much more in running time either. There are a lot of scenes of people sitting around being bored etc. The Valley of Gwangi, a 90 minute movie, has around 25 minutes of dinosaur scenes.
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Post by Vits on May 31, 2021 16:53:28 GMT
6/10
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