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Post by Agent of Chaos on May 19, 2017 2:32:10 GMT
My only exception to this is the X-Men. I'm generally ok with them being separately completely. I just think it would be a total clusterfuck to try to work a franchise that large into everything else going on. The Children of the Atom belong with their brethren. You can never illustrate the double standard of man who gains amazing powers through a freak accident and is beloved and, a child born with the same who is hated and feared unless they coexist. Logistics be damned - bring home the Homo Superior. There isn't a double standard. Just look at the treatments of The Hulks and the superhuman registeration act. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 2:47:52 GMT
No offense but, fuck Fox and fuck Sony too. Fuck Disney. I'd rather get creative movies that take chances (like Deadpool and Logan) than constant rehashes. It's not Disney. Marvel has been calling the shots with their films while Disney just gives them the money to do it with. Marvel has every right to the characters THEY CREATED. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 2:49:50 GMT
The Children of the Atom belong with their brethren. You can never illustrate the double standard of man who gains amazing powers through a freak accident and is beloved and, a child born with the same who is hated and feared unless they coexist. Logistics be damned - bring home the Homo Superior. There isn't a double standard. Just look at the treatments of The Hulks and the superhuman registeration act. The Hulk has been treated very well as has the superhuman registeration act. You just hate Marvel Studios. |
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on May 19, 2017 3:02:55 GMT
I hope not. Don't need a Disney monopoly. Fox is doing unique things with their X-Men movies. Disney would have NEVER given us Deadpool or Logan. Keep them away from Feige. I don't know why everyone likes the xmen movies. The only good ones were Xmen first class was because of Matthew Vaughn directing,Days of Future past because it fixed the timeline, and Logan only because it was just such a badass movie. Other than that they were awful. I think Disney would have respected the characters more. They seemed to get Spidey right. Fox's X-Men Universe is loosely based on the comic book of the same name. That's really all I have to say about that. SaveSave |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on May 19, 2017 3:18:39 GMT
The Children of the Atom belong with their brethren. You can never illustrate the double standard of man who gains amazing powers through a freak accident and is beloved and, a child born with the same who is hated and feared unless they coexist. Logistics be damned - bring home the Homo Superior. It's fine if it happens, but it's fine for me if it doesn't as well.
But I will say that I've seen enough of the X-Men unless there is a sincere effort to make a more cohesive narrative than they've done so far. There's no real long term vision, and I don't even like any of the actors. I do wish they'd reboot it, so to that end, sure, bring them into the MCU.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on May 19, 2017 3:20:43 GMT
There isn't a double standard. Just look at the treatments of The Hulks and the superhuman registeration act. I agree with raptor, the Hulk and the registration act have been great. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 3:49:20 GMT
There isn't a double standard. Just look at the treatments of The Hulks and the superhuman registeration act. I agree with raptor, the Hulk and the registration act have been great. Not to mention we've barely had time to see what they're going to do with the superhuman registration act. It's been applicable as the focus of ONE movie so far, and both the MCU films to come out just exceed its reach. |
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Post by Agent of Chaos on May 19, 2017 3:59:53 GMT
There isn't a double standard. Just look at the treatments of The Hulks and the superhuman registeration act. The Hulk has been treated very well as has the superhuman registeration act. You just hate Marvel Studios. I'm talking about the comics. Where Hulks are treated like shit.   |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 4:08:16 GMT
The Hulk has been treated very well as has the superhuman registeration act. You just hate Marvel Studios. I'm talking about the comics. Where Hulks are treated like shit. The comics and film divisions are run by different people. Feige has kept the poison that is killing the Marvel Comics branch of the people out of the films and the MCU films have for the most part been made people with a fondness for the material. Even Kenneth Branagh himself is a Thor fan despite his prestigious reputation as a Shakespearean actor, filmmaker, and man of the theater. |
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Post by Agent of Chaos on May 19, 2017 4:18:29 GMT
I'm talking about the comics. Where Hulks are treated like shit. The comics and film divisions are run by different people. Feige has kept the poison that is killing the Marvel Comics branch of the people out of the films and the MCU films have for the most part been made people with a fondness for the material. Even Kenneth Branagh himself is a Thor fan despite his prestigious reputation as a Shakespearean actor, filmmaker, and man of the theater. Hulks being hated on by the public like Mutants has been happening since Hulk's debut. I'm saying that there has never really been much of a double standard. |
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on May 19, 2017 4:25:34 GMT
The comics and film divisions are run by different people. Feige has kept the poison that is killing the Marvel Comics branch of the people out of the films and the MCU films have for the most part been made people with a fondness for the material. Even Kenneth Branagh himself is a Thor fan despite his prestigious reputation as a Shakespearean actor, filmmaker, and man of the theater. Hulks being hated on by the public like Mutants has been happening since Hulk's debut. I'm saying that there has never really been much of a double standard.I disagree. Hulks are and have been hated and feared because of their destructive capacity not because of what they are. Being a Hulk is a condition. Being a mutant is a birthright. |
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on May 19, 2017 4:32:10 GMT
No one is expecting them to give anything away. When the time comes, they'll be well compensated. By the way, "peace" is slang for goodbye. Nice talking to you. I'll keep posting if I good and well please, thank you. By the time Marvel is in a position to buy the X-Men back, it'll be well past the current incarnation of the MCU. So it'll be a big "meh" at that point (if it ever happens, which I don't expect it to). Uh, you can post till it falls off, dude. All I was/am saying is that our conversation - in particular - is done. |
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on May 19, 2017 4:44:58 GMT
The Children of the Atom belong with their brethren. You can never illustrate the double standard of man who gains amazing powers through a freak accident and is beloved and, a child born with the same who is hated and feared unless they coexist. Logistics be damned - bring home the Homo Superior. It's fine if it happens, but it's fine for me if it doesn't as well.
But I will say that I've seen enough of the X-Men unless there is a sincere effort to make a more cohesive narrative than they've done so far. There's no real long term vision, and I don't even like any of the actors. I do wish they'd reboot it, so to that end, sure, bring them into the MCU.
I wish I could be that nonchalant and pragmatic. A unified Cinematic version of the Marvel Universe is important to me. Not life-or-death important but maybe indoor-plumbing important. If not in this iteration than definitely the next. I have total confidence that it will happen. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on May 19, 2017 6:22:19 GMT
I wish I could be that nonchalant and pragmatic. A unified Cinematic version of the Marvel Universe is important to me. Not life-or-death important but maybe indoor-plumbing important. If not in this iteration than definitely the next. I have total confidence that it will happen. I find what you just said extremely interesting.
Will there be some sort of end to the MCU, where they decide to start from a completely different direction. It would be very very interesting to be able to look back on the current MCU if they ever create a second with all of the characters. I have to say, I'd be happy to see them try it.
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Post by barkingbaphomet on May 19, 2017 6:51:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 12:07:11 GMT
I hope not. Don't need a Disney monopoly. Fox is doing unique things with their X-Men movies. Disney would have NEVER given us Deadpool or Logan. Keep them away from Feige. No offense but, fuck Fox and fuck Sony too. Ditto. I like some x-men movies but between soft reboots that universe is a mess... Deadpool... so what deadpool is the deadpool? that awful thing from origins? is that deadpool of the x-men and new dedpool is not connected but it kind of is? what about colossus? these reboots and soft-reboots were tolerated in an era where the MCU didn't exist. The best part of a lot of comics is the appearence of other heroes. My favorite of all time single comic page is in Daredevil "Born Again" when the avengers appear. "A soldier with a voice that could command a God... and does". So yeah fuck fox... And sony with their crappy spin-offs. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 12:11:32 GMT
It's fine if it happens, but it's fine for me if it doesn't as well.
But I will say that I've seen enough of the X-Men unless there is a sincere effort to make a more cohesive narrative than they've done so far. There's no real long term vision, and I don't even like any of the actors. I do wish they'd reboot it, so to that end, sure, bring them into the MCU.
I wish I could be that nonchalant and pragmatic. A unified Cinematic version of the Marvel Universe is important to me. Not life-or-death important but maybe indoor-plumbing important. If not in this iteration than definitely the next. I have total confidence that it will happen. Ditto. Although i think they have some issues of their own, like the TV characters crossing over. I keep waiting and they keep stalling. |
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Post by sostie on May 19, 2017 12:52:56 GMT
Maybe the X-Men and Avengers teams on screen together would be a mess. But individual characters popping up? Wolverine was an Avenger for a while...that could be good.
The salivating fanboy in me would love one studio to own an entire universe, perhaps resulting in screen incarnations of the Two-In-One and Team-Up titles. Another part of me says it could end up with an over saturation of Marvel films.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 13:23:12 GMT
Fuck Disney. I'd rather get creative movies that take chances (like Deadpool and Logan) than constant rehashes. It's not Disney. Marvel has been calling the shots with their films while Disney just gives them the money to do it with. Marvel has every right to the characters THEY CREATED. They sold those rights to Fox. So they don't, actually. |
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Post by Agent of Chaos on May 19, 2017 13:43:06 GMT
Hulks being hated on by the public like Mutants has been happening since Hulk's debut. I'm saying that there has never really been much of a double standard.I disagree. Hulks are and have been hated and feared because of their destructive capacity not because of what they are. Being a Hulk is a condition. Being a mutant is a birthright. Mutants are generally hated because of their destructive capacity. And being a Hulk in Lyra's(red headed girl in the panels I posted) case is a birthright. |
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