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Post by darkpast on Oct 30, 2021 17:04:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 19:16:44 GMT
It's either just another formulaic MCU movie, or it strayed too far from the MCU formula and should have stuck closer. The negative reviews have led me to believe both these things must be true. Thatโs what I got from them too. It tries new things and (supposedly) fails at them, while still sticking to some of the things that people are starting to see as formulaic. Sounds like they tried to have it both ways and failed at both as a result.
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Post by Skaathar on Oct 31, 2021 3:49:27 GMT
I have no dog in this hunt (except for maybe Doctor Strange, I'm pretty much done with the MCU after ENDGAME), but it's my understanding that the "anti-woke" brownshirts really have their knives out for this film... You know: female director, strong female characters, non-white characters, gay characters, etc. Yada yada yada. That might be true for audience reactions but critics are generally pretty woke. So the low critic ratings couldn't be attributed to that. Of course, that might mean that with a critic score this low, it might actually be a hit with audiences.
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Post by scabab on Oct 31, 2021 11:36:12 GMT
60%. One percent from becoming rotten. Letโs say 51% of the reviews are positive, why would you think a majority opinion being positive as being rotten? Iโve never understood how 60% can be one half of something. Can you help me out?ย I'm not sure why they do it the way that they do but they must consider a more clear majority is needed for a movie to be considered fresh.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2021 18:06:43 GMT
I just noticed that Chloe Zhao not only directed, but she wrote the screenplay too. I guarantee you thatโs why this movie went wrong. Exact same thing that happened to WW84. Most directors are not good writers. This was Feigeโs fatal mistake.
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Post by politicidal on Nov 2, 2021 1:15:25 GMT
Backtracking on sequels maybe? This is from a producer:
"It's not something that is a must-have. Obviously, we have ideas of where we could go, but there isn't a hard and fast rule where we have to have three of these things and this is the first," Moore said of potential sequels, adding that, "If you just watch Eternals, you can enjoy Eternals, you can understand Eternals and you're good to go."
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Post by scabab on Nov 2, 2021 2:00:08 GMT
59% first Rotten MCU movie.
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Post by darkpast on Nov 2, 2021 2:41:51 GMT
Feige spread himself too thin , too much on his plate with D+ shows now
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2021 3:47:44 GMT
Backtracking on sequels maybe? This is from a producer:
"It's not something that is a must-have. Obviously, we have ideas of where we could go, but there isn't a hard and fast rule where we have to have three of these things and this is the first," Moore said of potential sequels, adding that, "If you just watch Eternals, you can enjoy Eternals, you can understand Eternals and you're good to go."
Damn. This couldโve been an interesting trilogy. The Celestials and their mythology is just so cool and now will likely never be explored further. In this case I have to hope they went all out with them here, and didnโt save them for the sequels we will now never see.
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Post by darkpast on Nov 2, 2021 4:55:55 GMT
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Post by onethreetwo on Nov 2, 2021 5:20:04 GMT
Maybe it's time to think about Iron Man 4. It's not too late to save the MCU.
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 2, 2021 6:02:03 GMT
Feige spread himself too thin , too much on his plate with D+ shows now I think he got over confident. A lot of the stuff released in Phase 4 felt sloppy. Like he was giving the barest guidance and just allowed people to do whatever in the shows. There was a general lack of oversight, quality control and overall consistency with the rest of the MCU.
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Post by darkpast on Nov 3, 2021 16:39:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2021 18:44:23 GMT
Feige spread himself too thin , too much on his plate with D+ shows now I think he got over confident. A lot of the stuff released in Phase 4 felt sloppy. Like he was giving the barest guidance and just allowed people to do whatever in the shows. There was a general lack of oversight, quality control and overall consistency with the rest of the MCU. Phase Four has felt incredibly lazy to me so far. Iโm really hoping that turns around with Spider-Man. I was fearful for the MCU the moment those streeeeaaaaming shows were announced. Feige has too much on his plate to maintain quality.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Nov 3, 2021 23:41:04 GMT
The irony: the people who most like to trumpet that "Rotten Tomatoes doesn't matter!!!" will be the first to shout about what a "failure" this movie is because of Rotten Tomatoes.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Nov 5, 2021 15:39:48 GMT
I'm reading some JW Justice League'ish trait - The Eternals is too many characters too soon, without much there there. One review, duo writers, pointed out exactly MCU's magic recipe early on was solo films into The Avengers. The Eternals I'm reading, & obviously seeing via trailers, is a slew of new characters, presenting obviously the most macro of backstories (of life on Earth, etc) all at once. This should've been a culminative story, not a re-launch title... diverse cast & credible director be damned.
The brightest notes seem to be that the film may one day play better in hindsight after more, smaller scale films & stories are told. X-Men mutants with shared DNA of these Deviants or whatever?
I saw a semi-troll reply to that, CBC News site, suggesting one day if the genre never stops, the ratio of superheroes to humans will just be 1:1, & what's so special about that?
Bottom line, The Eternals doesn't look or feel like an MCU title. It feels more X-Men reboot'ish.
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Post by Lux on Nov 5, 2021 23:25:17 GMT
I'm reading some JW Justice League'ish trait - The Eternals is too many characters too soon, without much there there. One review, duo writers, pointed out exactly MCU's magic recipe early on was solo films into The Avengers. The Eternals I'm reading, & obviously seeing via trailers, is a slew of new characters, presenting obviously the most macro of backstories (of life on Earth, etc) all at once. This should've been a culminative story, not a re-launch title... diverse cast & credible director be damned. The brightest notes seem to be that the film may one day play better in hindsight after more, smaller scale films & stories are told. X-Men mutants with shared DNA of these Deviants or whatever? I saw a semi-troll reply to that, CBC News site, suggesting one day if the genre never stops, the ratio of superheroes to humans will just be 1:1, & what's so special about that? Bottom line, The Eternals doesn't look or feel like an MCU title.ย It feels more X-Men reboot'ish. None of the individual Eternal heroes are interesting enough to warrant a prior solo movie about any of them except maybe Druig. Not all superhero teams need solo movies.
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Post by onethreetwo on Nov 6, 2021 0:27:34 GMT
Release the Zhao cut?
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Nov 6, 2021 1:31:16 GMT
And "X-Men: Apocalypse" costed less, and outgrossed it. So good. Music to my ears.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Nov 6, 2021 3:09:55 GMT
I read that Eternals outgrossed the opening day sales of Shang Chi and that its RT audience ratiois over 80%. So, things are looking good.
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