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Post by Rodney Farber on Jul 14, 2022 13:50:07 GMT
"The road to atheism is littered with bibles that have been read, cover-to-cover." - Andrew Seidel
"As a rule, atheists tend to know the Bible better than most Christians. Christians are content to have it spoon fed to them in church and they don't actually go crack it. Reading the bible is a great path to atheism and I highly recommend it. What about learning science? Christians don't actually have to learn anything about science because they can just say "God did it." - Don Baker
As a pre-teen, I remember the congregation would recite Psalm 23 every week. Wasn't Jehovah such a nice guy. I now wonder why no one ever recited Psalm 137:9 - "Happy will be the one who seizes your children And dashes them against the rocks."
What's your favorite Bible quote?
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Post by Catman on Jul 14, 2022 13:55:38 GMT
Elisha and the Two Bears (2 Kings 2:23-25)
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Post by clusium on Jul 14, 2022 14:53:31 GMT
"The road to atheism is littered with bibles that have been read, cover-to-cover." - Andrew Seidel
"As a rule, atheists tend to know the Bible better than most Christians. Christians are content to have it spoon fed to them in church and they don't actually go crack it. Reading the bible is a great path to atheism and I highly recommend it. What about learning science? Christians don't actually have to learn anything about science because they can just say "God did it." - Don Baker
As a pre-teen, I remember the congregation would recite Psalm 23 every week. Wasn't Jehovah such a nice guy. I now wonder why no one ever recited Psalm 137:9 - "Happy will be the one who seizes your children And dashes them against the rocks."
What's your favorite Bible quote?
Psalm 23 was composed by David, whereas Psalm 137 was composed by Jeremiah during the Babylonian captivity.
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Post by clusium on Jul 14, 2022 14:54:24 GMT
Elisha and the Two Bears (2 Kings 2:23-25) They were actually young men & not children that were killed by by bears. Language mistranslation.
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Post by Winter_King on Jul 14, 2022 16:11:56 GMT
Ezekiel 23:20
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Jul 14, 2022 16:32:57 GMT
Elisha and the Two Bears (2 Kings 2:23-25) They were actually young men & not children that were killed by by bears. Language mistranslation. Who cares about age? They still got God's death penalty for mocking an old man.
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Post by clusium on Jul 14, 2022 16:53:25 GMT
They were actually young men & not children that were killed by by bears. Language mistranslation. Who cares about age? They still got God's death penalty for mocking an old man. People always emphasize that they were little boys. That is a misconception.
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Post by Rodney Farber on Jul 14, 2022 17:45:24 GMT
Who cares about age? They still got God's death penalty for mocking an old man. People always emphasize that they were little boys. That is a misconception. After a bit of research: King James version: "little children" Catholic: "little boys" New International: "boys" New World Translation "young boys" American Standard Version: "young lads"
How did all these people get it wrong while you didn't? And let me paraphrase something RachelCarson1953 said: WTF difference does it make whether they were 8 or 18? Yahweh gave them the death penalty for mocking a bald man.
On the other hand, Acts 5:01-10 God kills Ananias and his wife Sapphira because they embezzled some of the funds from a sale of property. God wanted to put the fear of God into those who remained.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Jul 14, 2022 17:57:01 GMT
What's your favorite Bible quote?
15 I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16 So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth. 17 You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. Revelation 3:15-17
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Post by Isapop on Jul 14, 2022 18:14:53 GMT
"The road to atheism is littered with bibles that have been read, cover-to-cover." - Andrew Seidel
"As a rule, atheists tend to know the Bible better than most Christians. Christians are content to have it spoon fed to them in church and they don't actually go crack it. Reading the bible is a great path to atheism and I highly recommend it. What about learning science? Christians don't actually have to learn anything about science because they can just say "God did it." - Don Baker
As a pre-teen, I remember the congregation would recite Psalm 23 every week. Wasn't Jehovah such a nice guy. I now wonder why no one ever recited Psalm 137:9 - "Happy will be the one who seizes your children And dashes them against the rocks."
What's your favorite Bible quote?
Psalm 23 was composed by David, whereas Psalm 137 was composed by Jeremiah during the Babylonian captivity. But both were written under God's inspiration and approval, weren't they?
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Post by clusium on Jul 14, 2022 19:03:20 GMT
People always emphasize that they were little boys. That is a misconception. After a bit of research: King James version: "little children" Catholic: "little boys" New International: "boys" New World Translation "young boys" American Standard Version: "young lads"
How did all these people get it wrong while you didn't? And let me paraphrase something RachelCarson1953 said: WTF difference does it make whether they were 8 or 18? Yahweh gave them the death penalty for mocking a bald man.
On the other hand, Acts 5:01-10 God kills Ananias and his wife Sapphira because they embezzled some of the funds from a sale of property. God wanted to put the fear of God into those who remained.
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Post by clusium on Jul 14, 2022 19:05:33 GMT
Psalm 23 was composed by David, whereas Psalm 137 was composed by Jeremiah during the Babylonian captivity. But both were written under God's inspiration and approval, weren't they? Still different authors & entirely different situations. The way that Jeremiah felt & written about the Babylonians would have been exactly the same way a Kabbalist rabbi in 1930s - 1940s Europe would have felt & written about the Nazis.
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Post by Isapop on Jul 14, 2022 19:14:52 GMT
But both were written under God's inspiration and approval, weren't they? Still different authors & entirely different situations. The way that Jeremiah felt & written about the Babylonians would have been exactly the same way a Kabbalist rabbi in 1930s - 1940s Europe would have felt & written about the Nazis. But are we supposed to approve of someone being "happy" over dashing children against the rocks, no matter what their parents did?
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Post by clusium on Jul 14, 2022 19:22:41 GMT
Still different authors & entirely different situations. The way that Jeremiah felt & written about the Babylonians would have been exactly the same way a Kabbalist rabbi in 1930s - 1940s Europe would have felt & written about the Nazis. But are we supposed to approve of someone being "happy" over dashing children against the rocks, no matter what their parents did? We are supposed to understand the anger, pain, and resentment that one party feels when another party infringes upon their rights & freedoms. In all likelihood, the Babylonians committed a similar (if not exactly the very thing) thing to the Hebrew children, when they forcefully took the Hebrews away from Jerusalem & from Israel, into Babylonian captivity. Jeremiah was expressing pain over the injustice visited upon his own people, by the Babylonians & wishing the very same thing upon them. Psalm 137, verse 9
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Post by OpiateOfTheMasses on Jul 14, 2022 21:44:07 GMT
Elisha and the Two Bears (2 Kings 2:23-25) They were actually young men & not children that were killed by by bears. Language mistranslation. I assume this is the only mistake in the book that is divinely inspired and the basis for your religion? Cos it might be awkward if there were other mistakes in there that had somehow managed to "slip through the cracks" and millions of people were blindly accepting it as an instruction manual from their god... (of course you know for a fact that the rest of the book is 100% accurate, right?)
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Post by clusium on Jul 14, 2022 21:58:24 GMT
They were actually young men & not children that were killed by by bears. Language mistranslation. I assume this is the only mistake in the book that is divinely inspired and the basis for your religion? Cos it might be awkward if there were other mistakes in there that had somehow managed to "slip through the cracks" and millions of people were blindly accepting it as an instruction manual from their god... (of course you know for a fact that the rest of the book is 100% accurate, right?) The Bible is treated differently by Catholics & Orthodox than Protestants. Protestants follow the Bible right down to the letter. Catholic & Orthodox do not do that.
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Post by OpiateOfTheMasses on Jul 14, 2022 22:11:30 GMT
I assume this is the only mistake in the book that is divinely inspired and the basis for your religion? Cos it might be awkward if there were other mistakes in there that had somehow managed to "slip through the cracks" and millions of people were blindly accepting it as an instruction manual from their god... (of course you know for a fact that the rest of the book is 100% accurate, right?) The Bible is treated differently by Catholics & Orthodox than Protestants. Protestants follow the Bible right down to the letter. Catholic & Orthodox do not do that. Way to ignore the main point! So once again... Are you certain that this is the only error in the book? |
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Post by clusium on Jul 14, 2022 22:18:49 GMT
The Bible is treated differently by Catholics & Orthodox than Protestants. Protestants follow the Bible right down to the letter. Catholic & Orthodox do not do that. Way to ignore the main point! So once again... Are you certain that this is the only error in the book? What exactly is the main point? All I pointed out was the mistranslation of "children" for "young men."
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Post by OpiateOfTheMasses on Jul 14, 2022 22:52:59 GMT
Way to ignore the main point! So once again... Are you certain that this is the only error in the book? What exactly is the main point? All I pointed out was the mistranslation of "children" for "young men." I know you are being deliberately obtuse, but one last go: Are you certain that this is the only error in the book? |
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Post by clusium on Jul 14, 2022 23:01:19 GMT
What exactly is the main point? All I pointed out was the mistranslation of "children" for "young men." I know you are being deliberately obtuse, but one last go: Are you certain that this is the only error in the book? I never said it was an error. Said it was a mistranslation from the original languages.
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