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Post by heeeeey on Dec 12, 2022 18:59:39 GMT
to see, hear, smell, taste and touch. And I can prove it.
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Post by general313 on Dec 12, 2022 19:47:28 GMT
I have no doubt that you can fart without a physical digestive tract.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 12, 2022 20:32:07 GMT
to see, hear, smell, taste and touch. And I can prove it. Ok prove it
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Post by heeeeey on Dec 12, 2022 21:09:55 GMT
Maybe I should rephrase that: Consciousness does not need physical senses, and I can prove it.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 12, 2022 21:30:09 GMT
Maybe I should rephrase that: Consciousness does not need physical senses, and I can prove it. of course consciousness doesn’t need physical senses, if someone was deaf, blind, couldn’t taste, or feel they would still be concious. What argument are you trying to make?
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Post by heeeeey on Dec 12, 2022 22:02:03 GMT
Maybe I should rephrase that: Consciousness does not need physical senses, and I can prove it. of course consciousness doesn’t need physical senses, if someone was deaf, blind, couldn’t taste, or feel they would still be concious. What argument are you trying to make? I'm not talking about deaf, blind, etc. I'm talking about humans in general.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 12, 2022 22:46:41 GMT
of course consciousness doesn’t need physical senses, if someone was deaf, blind, couldn’t taste, or feel they would still be concious. What argument are you trying to make? I'm not talking about deaf, blind, etc. I'm talking about humans in general. Well those are all the human senses, so I'm not sure what you're asking. Are you stating the conciousness in humans could have arisen naturally without the human senses? That would actually pretty much be impossible, biological evolution (which includes conciousness) necessitates some sort of perception of natural stimuli (senses) to challenge and weed out undesirable traits (natural selection). Without that, humans wouldn't have even made it the level of apes flinging shit at each other in trees, much less what it is today. BTW I hope that's a decaf coffee in your avatar pic (caffeine is actually really bad for dogs)
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Post by heeeeey on Dec 12, 2022 23:15:11 GMT
I'm not talking about deaf, blind, etc. I'm talking about humans in general. Well those are all the human senses, so I'm not sure what you're asking. Are you stating the conciousness in humans could have arisen naturally without the human senses? That would actually pretty much be impossible, biological evolution (which includes conciousness) necessitates some sort of perception of natural stimuli (senses) to challenge and weed out undesirable traits (natural selection). Without that, humans wouldn't have even made it the level of apes flinging shit at each other in trees, much less what it is today. BTW I hope that's a decaf coffee in your avatar pic (caffeine is actually really bad for dogs) Wrong. My laptop broke. I'm on my phone. I'll be back when I get my new laptop.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 12, 2022 23:19:04 GMT
Well those are all the human senses, so I'm not sure what you're asking. Are you stating the conciousness in humans could have arisen naturally without the human senses? That would actually pretty much be impossible, biological evolution (which includes conciousness) necessitates some sort of perception of natural stimuli (senses) to challenge and weed out undesirable traits (natural selection). Without that, humans wouldn't have even made it the level of apes flinging shit at each other in trees, much less what it is today. BTW I hope that's a decaf coffee in your avatar pic (caffeine is actually really bad for dogs) Wrong. My laptop broke. I'm on my phone. I'll be back when I get my new laptop. No doubt you'll produce an argument based on empirical evidence and sound philosophical reasoning (because that's what you're known for on this board)
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Post by heeeeey on Dec 12, 2022 23:34:00 GMT
Wrong. My laptop broke. I'm on my phone. I'll be back when I get my new laptop. No doubt you'll produce an argument based on empirical evidence and sound philosophical reasoning (because that's what you're known for on this board) I'm going to post something that anyone can verify for themselves, not paragraphs of intellectual flatulence.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 12, 2022 23:41:48 GMT
No doubt you'll produce an argument based on empirical evidence and sound philosophical reasoning (because that's what you're known for on this board) I'm going to post something that anyone can verify for themselves, not paragraphs of intellectual flatulence. "I'm going to post something that anyone can verify for themselves" Translation: "I'm gonna completely make stuff up that isn't backed by any peer reviewed data"
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Post by heeeeey on Dec 12, 2022 23:57:10 GMT
I'm going to post something that anyone can verify for themselves, not paragraphs of intellectual flatulence. "I'm going to post something that anyone can verify for themselves" Translation: "I'm gonna completely make stuff up that isn't backed by any peer reviewed data" Peer reviewers are paid to filter out anything that disrupts their paradigm. How do the five senses work?
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 13, 2022 0:03:14 GMT
"I'm going to post something that anyone can verify for themselves" Translation: "I'm gonna completely make stuff up that isn't backed by any peer reviewed data" Peer reviewers are paid to filter out anything that disrupts their paradigm. How do the five senses work? "Peer reviewers are paid to filter out anything that disrupts their paradigm." Ok so you're not gonna actually use empirical, verifiable evidence. Thanks for confirming what I suspected. "How do the five senses work?" Well to explain I would need a source at your intellectual level, so here you go:
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Post by heeeeey on Dec 13, 2022 0:42:30 GMT
Peer reviewers are paid to filter out anything that disrupts their paradigm. How do the five senses work? "Peer reviewers are paid to filter out anything that disrupts their paradigm." Ok so you're not gonna actually use empirical, verifiable evidence. Thanks for confirming what I suspected. "How do the five senses work?" Well to explain I would need a source at your intellectual level, so here you go: I'm glad you posted that, so tomorrow when I hand you your ass, you can't walk anything back.
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Post by general313 on Dec 13, 2022 0:43:13 GMT
"So logically, if she weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood, and therefore, a witch!" - Sir Bedevere
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 13, 2022 0:47:17 GMT
"Peer reviewers are paid to filter out anything that disrupts their paradigm." Ok so you're not gonna actually use empirical, verifiable evidence. Thanks for confirming what I suspected. "How do the five senses work?" Well to explain I would need a source at your intellectual level, so here you go: I'm glad you posted that, so tomorrow when I hand you your ass, you can't walk anything back. Oh no, are you gonna do to me what Eminem did to Clarence (the one that lives with both parents) at the end of 8 Mile?
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Post by heeeeey on Dec 13, 2022 0:54:41 GMT
I'm glad you posted that, so tomorrow when I hand you your ass, you can't walk anything back. Oh no, are you gonna do to me what Eminem did to Clarence (the one that lives with both parents) at the end of 8 Mile? I have never seen that asshole's movies or heard his music. Not surprised you have.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 13, 2022 0:56:35 GMT
Oh no, are you gonna do to me what Eminem did to Clarence (the one that lives with both parents) at the end of 8 Mile? I have never seen that asshole's movies or heard his music. Not surprised you have. Really? You've never heard a single Eminem song? What do you live in a fucking cave in the woods?
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Post by heeeeey on Dec 13, 2022 0:59:39 GMT
I have never seen that asshole's movies or heard his music. Not surprised you have. Really? You've never heard a single Eminem song? What do you live in a fucking cave in the woods? I have purposely avoided ever listening to that asshole. Not surprised you idolize a tattooed, woman-hating piece of shit.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 13, 2022 1:01:31 GMT
Really? You've never heard a single Eminem song? What do you live in a fucking cave in the woods? I have purposely avoided ever listening to that asshole. Not surprised you idolize a tattooed, woman-hating piece of shit. I idolize him? That's news to me. Can you point to me one post where I even so much as implied that?
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