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Post by ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda on Mar 20, 2023 1:42:28 GMT
Toward or from Christians?
Or toward or from other religions?
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Post by gadreel on Mar 20, 2023 2:15:23 GMT
Toward or from Christians? Or toward or from other religions? I would say in the west either Muslims (more recently) or Jews are the most persecuted, in the middle east Jews, prolly russia and the slavic states too. In Asia, I guess falung gong or whatever it is. In my house its middle class Christians.
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Post by drystyx on Mar 20, 2023 3:21:55 GMT
Easily Christians or Jews get the most persecution, even in the U.S..
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Post by paulslaugh on Mar 20, 2023 3:27:38 GMT
Easily Christians or Jews get the most persecution, even in the U.S.. There has never persecution of Christians in the USA, this is the epidemy of sinful pride. Any religious persecution done in this nation has been by Christians to other Christians only.
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Post by NJtoTX on Mar 22, 2023 17:12:57 GMT
Atheists are persecuted in Islamic countries. Today someone from Egypt posted on a Facebook atheist group, "Tomorrow will be the first day of the month of Ramadan, in which everyone must fast. I left Islam and this is the worst month of the year for me. I am very afraid and terrified. How can I overcome this." The Fast & The Furious: Atheists Fake Ramadan Hunger to Avoid Jail
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Post by drystyx on Mar 22, 2023 17:40:11 GMT
Easily Christians or Jews get the most persecution, even in the U.S.. There has never persecution of Christians in the USA, this is the epidemy of sinful pride. Any religious persecution done in this nation has been by Christians to other Christians only. Just wanting to believe something does not make it true. What's the measuring stick? Real life. Have you ever, ever, been to a Thanksgiving Dinner of more than two people where there wasn't at least one of those people shouting that Christians weren't all hypocrites and all Christians were guilty of genocide? Have you ever seen someone pray outside of a church in front of two people or more without having at least one person shout and make threats at the person praying? Don't even try to say you can get through a Christmas or Easter without seeing someone threaten Christians in the U.S.. Try saying grace at a Thanksgiving or Easter dinner in the U.S. without someone at the table raising his or her (usually it's a "her") arms and threatening to attack anyone saying "grace". It certainly happens every time since about 1990. People in the U.S. are indoctrinated into hating anyone who is a Christians. It's just the way it is. Even other Christians are brainwashed into hating other Christians. If you claim this isn't so, no one will believe you. Oh, they may say they believe you, but that's because they're lying.
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Post by ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda on Mar 22, 2023 17:58:23 GMT
There has never persecution of Christians in the USA, this is the epidemy of sinful pride. Any religious persecution done in this nation has been by Christians to other Christians only. Just wanting to believe something does not make it true. What's the measuring stick? Real life. Have you ever, ever, been to a Thanksgiving Dinner of more than two people where there wasn't at least one of those people shouting that Christians weren't all hypocrites and all Christians were guilty of genocide? Have you ever seen someone pray outside of a church in front of two people or more without having at least one person shout and make threats at the person praying? No. Don't even try to say you can get through a Christmas or Easter without seeing someone threaten Christians in the U.S.. I can say it and have gotten through it, all the time.Try saying grace at a Thanksgiving or Easter dinner in the U.S. without someone at the table raising his or her (usually it's a "her") arms and threatening to attack anyone saying "grace". It certainly happens every time since about 1990. People in the U.S. are indoctrinated into hating anyone who is a Christians. It's just the way it is. Even other Christians are brainwashed into hating other Christians. I'm that someone you might accuse of doing such a thing, which I never have and have never witnessed anyone else doing so.If you claim this isn't so, no one will believe you. Oh, they may say they believe you, but that's because they're lying. Okay, if you say so.
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Post by paulslaugh on Mar 22, 2023 17:58:35 GMT
There has never persecution of Christians in the USA, this is the epidemy of sinful pride. Any religious persecution done in this nation has been by Christians to other Christians only. Just wanting to believe something does not make it true.Based on the well documented history and the homogeneous white population at the time, it is empirically true. It’s not a matter of what I want to believe. What's the measuring stick? Real life.Real life is subjective. This nation is the middle of a reality crisis. What the Right says reality is, I don’t even recognize as close to being true. Have you ever, ever, been to a Thanksgiving Dinner of more than two people where there wasn't at least one of those people shouting that Christians weren't all hypocrites and all Christians were guilty of genocide?Hell, no. I’m from the South, we all knew not to go there. Thanksgiving was about turkeys and football. Even so, that’s an opinions disagreement. You must have some weird relatives. Have you ever seen someone pray outside of a church in front of two people or more without having at least one person shout and make threats at the person praying? Never. Don't even try to say you can get through a Christmas or Easter without seeing someone threaten Christians in the U.S.. Again, never. Try saying grace at a Thanksgiving or Easter dinner in the U.S. without someone at the table raising his or her (usually it's a "her") arms and threatening to attack anyone saying "grace". Did this really happen to you? Even so, so what? That’s not persecution, that’s ill mannered bigotry and it’s not like Christians don’t cast the evil-eye too. Damn, where do you live with all these bold atheists? Paris? It certainly happens every time since about 1990. People in the U.S. are indoctrinated into hating anyone who is a Christians. It's just the way it is. Even other Christians are brainwashed into hating other Christians. Boing! If you claim this isn't so, no one will believe you. Oh, they may say they believe you, but that's because they're lying. Well, you just told me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2023 18:09:52 GMT
The real persecution is from humans to other animals.
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Post by ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda on Mar 22, 2023 18:14:55 GMT
There has never persecution of Christians in the USA, this is the epidemy of sinful pride. Any religious persecution done in this nation has been by Christians to other Christians only. Just wanting to believe something does not make it true. What's the measuring stick? Real life. Have you ever, ever, been to a Thanksgiving Dinner of more than two people where there wasn't at least one of those people shouting that Christians weren't all hypocrites and all Christians were guilty of genocide? Have you ever seen someone pray outside of a church in front of two people or more without having at least one person shout and make threats at the person praying? Don't even try to say you can get through a Christmas or Easter without seeing someone threaten Christians in the U.S.. Try saying grace at a Thanksgiving or Easter dinner in the U.S. without someone at the table raising his or her (usually it's a "her") arms and threatening to attack anyone saying "grace". It certainly happens every time since about 1990. People in the U.S. are indoctrinated into hating anyone who is a Christians. It's just the way it is. Even other Christians are brainwashed into hating other Christians. If you claim this isn't so, no one will believe you. Oh, they may say they believe you, but that's because they're lying. Great point! That's how most born-again and evangelical Christians -- especially fundamentalist far-right Christians -- act toward and view all other Christians. You're right on the money here!
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Post by paulslaugh on Mar 22, 2023 18:22:42 GMT
Just wanting to believe something does not make it true. What's the measuring stick? Real life. Have you ever, ever, been to a Thanksgiving Dinner of more than two people where there wasn't at least one of those people shouting that Christians weren't all hypocrites and all Christians were guilty of genocide? Have you ever seen someone pray outside of a church in front of two people or more without having at least one person shout and make threats at the person praying? Don't even try to say you can get through a Christmas or Easter without seeing someone threaten Christians in the U.S.. Try saying grace at a Thanksgiving or Easter dinner in the U.S. without someone at the table raising his or her (usually it's a "her") arms and threatening to attack anyone saying "grace". It certainly happens every time since about 1990. People in the U.S. are indoctrinated into hating anyone who is a Christians. It's just the way it is. Even other Christians are brainwashed into hating other Christians. If you claim this isn't so, no one will believe you. Oh, they may say they believe you, but that's because they're lying. Great point! That's how most born-again and evangelical Christians -- especially fundamentalist far-right Christians -- act toward and view all other Christians. You're right on the money here! Just wanting to believe something does not make it true.
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Post by rizdek on Mar 27, 2023 23:22:21 GMT
There has never persecution of Christians in the USA, this is the epidemy of sinful pride. Any religious persecution done in this nation has been by Christians to other Christians only. Just wanting to believe something does not make it true. Wait, what? When did that happen?
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Post by gadreel on Mar 27, 2023 23:32:10 GMT
The real persecution is from humans to other animals. The real persecution is my cat using her claws to ruin my duvet and my work pants. Do you know how hard it is to teach in tighty whities?
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Post by Shiloh on Mar 28, 2023 1:52:38 GMT
There has never persecution of Christians in the USA, this is the epidemy of sinful pride. Any religious persecution done in this nation has been by Christians to other Christians only. Just wanting to believe something does not make it true. What's the measuring stick? Real life. Have you ever, ever, been to a Thanksgiving Dinner of more than two people where there wasn't at least one of those people shouting that Christians weren't all hypocrites and all Christians were guilty of genocide? Have you ever seen someone pray outside of a church in front of two people or more without having at least one person shout and make threats at the person praying? Don't even try to say you can get through a Christmas or Easter without seeing someone threaten Christians in the U.S.. Try saying grace at a Thanksgiving or Easter dinner in the U.S. without someone at the table raising his or her (usually it's a "her") arms and threatening to attack anyone saying "grace". It certainly happens every time since about 1990. People in the U.S. are indoctrinated into hating anyone who is a Christians. It's just the way it is. Even other Christians are brainwashed into hating other Christians. If you claim this isn't so, no one will believe you. Oh, they may say they believe you, but that's because they're lying. You didn’t mention this board. As a Christian Existentialist, skimming the subject titles makes me walk softly around here.
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Post by jillresurrected on Mar 28, 2023 19:29:24 GMT
Look at history. It's from Christians.
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Post by clusium on Mar 28, 2023 19:33:05 GMT
Look at history. It's from Christians. Actually, it swings both ways: From Christians & to Christians.
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Post by paulslaugh on Mar 30, 2023 2:21:09 GMT
Look at history. It's from Christians. Actually, it swings both ways: From Christians & to Christians. But you’ve never experienced it.
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Post by clusium on Mar 30, 2023 2:33:20 GMT
Actually, it swings both ways: From Christians & to Christians. But you’ve never experienced it. That's because here in Canada, we have freedom of religion.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Mar 30, 2023 2:35:45 GMT
Well let's see, here in the US:
Vast majority identify as Christian Most mainstream politicians identify as Christian We've yet to have a non-Christian President We have "In God We Trust" on our money We have children saying "God bless America" in our pledge of allegiance (which is already kinda weird and Orwellian to begin with) We still have people sworn in on the Bible when they're in court We have well known mainstream politicians that are insane Christian fascists (Marjory Taylor Green, Ron Desantis, Lauren Boebert)
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Post by paulslaugh on Mar 30, 2023 2:40:17 GMT
But you’ve never experienced it. That's because here in Canada, we have freedom of religion. And who gives you that right? The believing church or the secular state?
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