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Post by FilmFlaneur on May 20, 2024 23:42:53 GMT
You mean what’s in the post above is not from me ? Please see my apology and explanation. Rest assured that you are not so bad a novastar...
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Post by novastar6 on May 20, 2024 23:43:36 GMT
Here are your reproductive rights. You don't want to get pregnant, take actual measures to prevent pregnancy instead of going 'whoops! How did that happen? Gee I have no idea, but I sure know if I don't want puppies to get my dog fixed, I KNOW how it happens then.' That sarcasm says more about your moralistic views about women and their presumed behaviour, than it considers their rights. Irrelevant; but I am sure women everywhere will thank you all the same. Don't tell women to give up their rights just because that doesn't agree with your moral preferences and (as always seems the case) it suits you to paint them all with the same brush. Feel free to substantiate this claim. Let's see: can you give any statistics as to how many illegal abortions there are at all now after the overturning of Roe vs Wade? I certainly can't find any, so therefore your point is moot. In fact it appears that, for the time being anyhow, as the many State referenda on the matter continue to return positive results re: abortions as they all seem to do, many women (at least those rich enough to afford it) are simply exporting their legal abortion to nearby states. And I am sure you be pleased to know that despite bans, the number of abortions in the United States actually i ncreased in 2023: www.guttmacher.org/2024/03/despite-bans-number-abortions-united-states-increased-2023 A woman has the final say over her own body. It may be different in some jurisdictions but this is certainly the case in the UK, Sorry men. Using a leaf from your own playbook of course one can claim that men are morally irresponsible for getting a reluctant women with child in the first place. See how it works? You can't have it both ways.
So when women get HIV and AIDS, they can just say 'my body my choice' and the virus will leave them alone? Oh, STDs don't fit the narrative of promiscuous empowerment for women, so we just turn a blind eye to the ever increasing numbers of infected people, and the fact some are becoming resilient to their treatments. Don't tell women to be sexually discriminate, don't tell them to use protection because that's stomping on their rights.
Funny, one wouldn't think there was anything 'empowering' about suggesting women open themselves up to every STD imaginable just cuz they can.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on May 20, 2024 23:44:17 GMT
BTW I dunno what at strawman is, appart from the character In Oz. A straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion. In the two cases you described you attribute, or imply, me positions I have not held.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on May 20, 2024 23:48:27 GMT
So when women get HIV and AIDS, they can just say 'my body my choice' and the virus will leave them alone? Oh, STDs don't fit the narrative of promiscuous empowerment for women, so we just turn a blind eye to the ever increasing numbers of infected people, and the fact some are becoming resilient to their treatments. Don't tell women to be sexually discriminate, don't tell them to use protection because that's stomping on their rights.
Once again you are just victim blaming (women of course).
Funny you have not shown anyone suggesting this. Poor Transfuged. I confused her with you. Rather inexcusable that. I am mortified...
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Post by transfuged on May 20, 2024 23:52:53 GMT
You mean what’s in the post above is not from me ? Please see my apology and explanation. Rest assured that you are not so bad a novastar... OK. I understand. I don’t collect apologies, though.
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Post by transfuged on May 20, 2024 23:55:26 GMT
BTW I dunno what at strawman is, appart from the character In Oz. A straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion. In the two cases you described you attribute, or imply, me positions I have not held. I remember now you almost wrote you were wrong in that reply of yours. Almost is enough for me. At last here.
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Post by amyghost on May 21, 2024 0:59:07 GMT
She gives every indication of really not liking women, period.Interestingly, after having placed her on block, I now find she has been unblocked and apparently it is no longer possible for one user to block another's posts on this site.
You're the one with a low opinion of women then if you really believe that. Because that means you're the one implying all women are stupid, lazy and irresponsible. Of course, pro-aborts do tend to use those reasons, dressed up in slightly prettier words, to convince women killing their baby is the ONLY choice they should make.
And you're convinced any woman who has an abortion is doing so simply because she's a bloodthirsty murderer. You have an extraordinarily low opinion of women. Even a quick perusal of your posts here and elsewhere indicates that. Nothing new; women who really despise their own sex is neither anything new or unusual, sad to say.
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Post by novastar6 on May 21, 2024 3:13:34 GMT
You're the one with a low opinion of women then if you really believe that. Because that means you're the one implying all women are stupid, lazy and irresponsible. Of course, pro-aborts do tend to use those reasons, dressed up in slightly prettier words, to convince women killing their baby is the ONLY choice they should make.
And you're convinced any woman who has an abortion is doing so simply because she's a bloodthirsty murderer. You have an extraordinarily low opinion of women. Even a quick perusal of your posts here and elsewhere indicates that. Nothing new; women who really despise their own sex is neither anything new or unusual, sad to say.
Not any, but a lot. Too many women use it as a form of 'birth control' because they were too lazy/irresponsible to bother with condoms, actual birth control, and finding out when they are most fertile and skipping that week. Again, over 50% of unplanned pregnancies used 0% protection, they made ZERO attempts to prevent pregnancy, that's as accidental as 'just because I got drunk, was texting and going 90 mph, DOESN'T make the crash *my* fault, I can do whatever I want!' Will the cops buy that? Will the judge buy that? Will the jury buy it? How much sympathy is that driver entitled to? Maybe you think they deserve the same amount as the sober driver doing the speed limit who keeps their eyes on the road.
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Post by transfuged on May 21, 2024 7:26:47 GMT
And you're convinced any woman who has an abortion is doing so simply because she's a bloodthirsty murderer. You have an extraordinarily low opinion of women. Even a quick perusal of your posts here and elsewhere indicates that. Nothing new; women who really despise their own sex is neither anything new or unusual, sad to say.
Not any, but a lot. Too many women use it as a form of 'birth control' because they were too lazy/irresponsible to bother with condoms, actual birth control, and finding out when they are most fertile and skipping that week. Again, over 50% of unplanned pregnancies used 0% protection, they made ZERO attempts to prevent pregnancy, that's as accidental as 'just because I got drunk, was texting and going 90 mph, DOESN'T make the crash *my* fault, I can do whatever I want!' Will the cops buy that? Will the judge buy that? Will the jury buy it? How much sympathy is that driver entitled to? Maybe you think they deserve the same amount as the sober driver doing the speed limit who keeps their eyes on the road.
Too many women is the title of a mystery novel.
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Post by amyghost on May 21, 2024 9:53:38 GMT
And you're convinced any woman who has an abortion is doing so simply because she's a bloodthirsty murderer. You have an extraordinarily low opinion of women. Even a quick perusal of your posts here and elsewhere indicates that. Nothing new; women who really despise their own sex is neither anything new or unusual, sad to say.
Not any, but a lot. Too many women use it as a form of 'birth control' because they were too lazy/irresponsible to bother with condoms, actual birth control, and finding out when they are most fertile and skipping that week. Again, over 50% of unplanned pregnancies used 0% protection, they made ZERO attempts to prevent pregnancy, that's as accidental as 'just because I got drunk, was texting and going 90 mph, DOESN'T make the crash *my* fault, I can do whatever I want!' Will the cops buy that? Will the judge buy that? Will the jury buy it? How much sympathy is that driver entitled to? Maybe you think they deserve the same amount as the sober driver doing the speed limit who keeps their eyes on the road.
Once again, as you've been requested repeatedly, put up some proof of these irresponsible claims. As per usual, Youtube videos not accepted. As a woman who had to make that hard choice some years back--I won't bore anyone with the particulars--I can tell you without hesitation how full of shit you are. However, since your apparent mission in life is that of professional shit-peddler, I realize those are words wasted. Continue to dwell in your video fantasy world--so much less challenging than the complexities and not so happily simplistic black and white certainties of the real one--and good luck to you. Blinded by the nonsense you're addicted to, you'll need all the help you can get.
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Post by novastar6 on May 21, 2024 13:04:53 GMT
Not any, but a lot. Too many women use it as a form of 'birth control' because they were too lazy/irresponsible to bother with condoms, actual birth control, and finding out when they are most fertile and skipping that week. Again, over 50% of unplanned pregnancies used 0% protection, they made ZERO attempts to prevent pregnancy, that's as accidental as 'just because I got drunk, was texting and going 90 mph, DOESN'T make the crash *my* fault, I can do whatever I want!' Will the cops buy that? Will the judge buy that? Will the jury buy it? How much sympathy is that driver entitled to? Maybe you think they deserve the same amount as the sober driver doing the speed limit who keeps their eyes on the road.
Once again, as you've been requested repeatedly, put up some proof of these irresponsible claims. As per usual, Youtube videos not accepted. As a woman who had to make that hard choice some years back--I won't bore anyone with the particulars--I can tell you without hesitation how full of shit you are. However, since your apparent mission in life is that of professional shit-peddler, I realize those are words wasted. Continue to dwell in your video fantasy world--so much less challenging than the complexities and not so happily simplistic black and white certainties of the real one--and good luck to you. Blinded by the nonsense you're addicted to, you'll need all the help you can get.
And you think the people who make, let alone buy 'abortions are magical' party favors, actually had to make the same choice you did? You think the woman who had a 'hurray for abortion!' cake made had to make the same choice you did?
And you're certainly welcome to look that up for yourself since you don't believe anything you're shown even though we're a 'vid or it didn't happen' generation and have been for the better part of 20 years.
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Post by transfuged on May 21, 2024 13:39:54 GMT
Once again, as you've been requested repeatedly, put up some proof of these irresponsible claims. As per usual, Youtube videos not accepted. As a woman who had to make that hard choice some years back--I won't bore anyone with the particulars--I can tell you without hesitation how full of shit you are. However, since your apparent mission in life is that of professional shit-peddler, I realize those are words wasted. Continue to dwell in your video fantasy world--so much less challenging than the complexities and not so happily simplistic black and white certainties of the real one--and good luck to you. Blinded by the nonsense you're addicted to, you'll need all the help you can get.
And you think the people who make, let alone buy 'abortions are magical' party favors, actually had to make the same choice you did? You think the woman who had a 'hurray for abortion!' cake made had to make the same choice you did?
And you're certainly welcome to look that up for yourself since you don't believe anything you're shown even though we're a 'vid or it didn't happen' generation and have been for the better part of 20 years.
In here, the law that made abortion legal is called ”Veil’s law”. It’s the name of the woman who was in charge of female rights by then, Simone Veil. Some people were so ugly to her that she once cried in front of all the parliament. Once she was asked by a mp, oh, I gather that’s your coat hanger’s number, isn’t it ? The number he was talking about was tattooed on her arm. It was her number when she was incarcerated in Auschwitz extermination camp, from which she was a survivor. Maybe the hanger’s tale is only a tale. Maybe the tears were engineered with menthol alcohol. I wasn't’t there, how would I know ? Auschwitz is not a legend, and if some place can make believe in black magic, it’s not there. It’s worse. The actual government is trying to surf over the late Simone Veil fame. Legal abortion is now written in the constitution. Imho Creeps don’t give a fig about the constitution. Simone Veil had her sour cake, and she survived Auschwitz, she survived being sentenced to death by the nazi regime. It’s not better, it’s not worse than deciding to survive to abortion. It’s fact. In here you’ll find what she said about the foul mouthed mp’s : vulgar and low. Le combat le plus difficile de Simone Veil.* Go home, novastar6. Get a cake, a candy bar, a hug, a kiss. Then go home. Pretty please. Ps btw, Simone Veil was politically not a leftist wokist and I do not look up to her. Pps *There’s a vid .
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Post by FilmFlaneur on May 21, 2024 20:59:37 GMT
A straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion. In the two cases you described you attribute, or imply, me positions I have not held. I remember now you almost wrote you were wrong in that reply of yours. Almost is enough for me. At last here. Any reply in particular?
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Post by transfuged on May 21, 2024 21:18:12 GMT
I remember now you almost wrote you were wrong in that reply of yours. Almost is enough for me. At last here. Any reply in particular? Yes, but not tonight. I’ll get back to you, hon.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on May 21, 2024 21:21:22 GMT
Yes, but not tonight. I’ll get back to you, hon. As always, I'm optimistic...
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Post by transfuged on May 21, 2024 21:40:49 GMT
Yes, but not tonight. I’ll get back to you, hon. As always, I'm optimistic...
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Post by amyghost on May 21, 2024 22:06:31 GMT
Once again, as you've been requested repeatedly, put up some proof of these irresponsible claims. As per usual, Youtube videos not accepted. As a woman who had to make that hard choice some years back--I won't bore anyone with the particulars--I can tell you without hesitation how full of shit you are. However, since your apparent mission in life is that of professional shit-peddler, I realize those are words wasted. Continue to dwell in your video fantasy world--so much less challenging than the complexities and not so happily simplistic black and white certainties of the real one--and good luck to you. Blinded by the nonsense you're addicted to, you'll need all the help you can get.
And you think the people who make, let alone buy 'abortions are magical' party favors, actually had to make the same choice you did? You think the woman who had a 'hurray for abortion!' cake made had to make the same choice you did?
And you're certainly welcome to look that up for yourself since you don't believe anything you're shown even though we're a 'vid or it didn't happen' generation and have been for the better part of 20 years.
You have yet to provide any legitimate substantiation of any of your claims. You've thus forfeited any claims to being taken seriously. As to 'vid or it didn't happen', I belong to the generation that was taught not to believe everything seen on tv (or, nowadays, tv's internet equivalent). Clearly not the same generation you seem to be from, where the only evidence that bears any weight for you is what you see in somebody or another's broadcast. Give it up. I lived the experience. You just natter on about it, when you're not actually salivating over the sensationalism.
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Post by novastar6 on May 21, 2024 22:39:35 GMT
And you think the people who make, let alone buy 'abortions are magical' party favors, actually had to make the same choice you did? You think the woman who had a 'hurray for abortion!' cake made had to make the same choice you did?
And you're certainly welcome to look that up for yourself since you don't believe anything you're shown even though we're a 'vid or it didn't happen' generation and have been for the better part of 20 years.
You have yet to provide any legitimate substantiation of any of your claims. You've thus forfeited any claims to being taken seriously. As to 'vid or it didn't happen', I belong to the generation that was taught not to believe everything seen on tv (or, nowadays, tv's internet equivalent). Clearly not the same generation you seem to be from, where the only evidence that bears any weight for you is what you see in somebody or another's broadcast. Give it up. I lived the experience. You just natter on about it, when you're not actually salivating over the sensationalism.
It seems you've made your mind up that you wouldn't believe anything offered in any shape or form. If video's not proof, lines on a graph or words in an article can certainly be falsified and manipulated and of course anybody's personal account can just be a lie.
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Post by Admin on May 21, 2024 23:05:42 GMT
As a woman who had to make that hard choice some years back... Why was it a hard choice?
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Post by Admin on May 21, 2024 23:17:42 GMT
Banning abortion has no bearing on a woman's right to reproduce. www.amnesty.org/en/get-involved/my-body-my-rights/ Only if one takes that right always as a positive thing, If a woman is forced to reproduce against her will it is different. "Reproductive rights rest on the recognition of the basic right of all couples and individuals to decide freely and responsibly the number, spacing and timing of their children and to have the information and means to do so, and the right to attain the highest standard of sexual and reproductive health." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reproductive_rights#Lack_of_knowledge_about_rights
Cool story, bro. My statement stands.
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