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Post by ThatGuy on Jun 12, 2017 22:00:23 GMT
The red fonts are coming. The red fonts are coming. Yeah, it's just a block of red. Not reading that. I think that's the point of it.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 13, 2017 15:39:07 GMT
How about this: Lex as his usual plotting sociopath without the autism and have him be the only one who sees the trouble brewing. Superman and Batman are at odds (they didn't need any help from Lex, they already distrusted each other) and some kind of emergency protocol or contingency plan by Zod sets up Doomsday's creation. Lex finds out and he, Lex Luthor must push the heroes toward the villain he knows only they can destroy together. The personal struggle is Luthor's, not theirs. On the one hand, he sees both heroes as obstacles to his ultimate goal and would be happy if they simply killed each other. On the other hand, there's no way to profit and gain from a scorched Earth. Lex would have to swallow his pride and appreciate the irony of using these two men (and WW, you wouldn't have to change much to include her in basically the same way) to save the world for his own ends. The manipulation ends up with the world being saved, as only Lex knows the truth of how they came together. He essentially created the JL out of necessity by using these icons of justice as pawns in a larger criminal scheme and now he doesn't know whether to smile or throw up in his mouth. How about this for fixes. Forget about blaming Superman for stuff. People already accepted that he was helping them and the other Kryptonians were the ones to cause the damage. All that crap of blaming Superman for MoS was for people complaining about the movie. Have Superman be the one to not trust Batman or understand his ways. That's the initial conflict between them. And have that near the beginning of the movie along with their big fight. The rest of the Batman v Superman stuff should be them debating their ways. Think of it like a whole movie of Punisher and Daredevil on the rooftop arguing their tactics in Daredevil season 2. The main villain of the movie should have been Brainiac with Lex helping him. Have it that Zod's key and the ship corrupt each other and creates this entity. It has Lex use Zod's body to create itself a body. Brainiac is now the one that knows about Darkseid's coming to Earth because of their time in the Phantom Zone. Don't kill Superman at the end. They all know about Darkseid so have Superman leave to prepare and he tells Batman and Diana to prepare on Earth (forming the Justice League). This allows for Superman to not be there when Darkseid's forces attack in Justice League instead of being dead. He comes back when Earth's forces are kinda against the wall. He brings with him Martian Manhunter and maybe Green Lantern (as chronicled in MoS2 ). Huh. That's actually a pretty good plot. Definitely a big improvement over what they already had. We already had the "people are suspicious about Superman" in MOS. It would have been nice to see the public celebrate Superman in this movie, with a tiny faction still against him. And yeah, Braniac would have made more sense, as well as not killing Superman. Superman's death should be reserved for much later, once we've gotten attached to him and his death would then provide more impact.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jun 13, 2017 19:31:15 GMT
How about this for fixes. Forget about blaming Superman for stuff. People already accepted that he was helping them and the other Kryptonians were the ones to cause the damage. All that crap of blaming Superman for MoS was for people complaining about the movie. Have Superman be the one to not trust Batman or understand his ways. That's the initial conflict between them. And have that near the beginning of the movie along with their big fight. The rest of the Batman v Superman stuff should be them debating their ways. Think of it like a whole movie of Punisher and Daredevil on the rooftop arguing their tactics in Daredevil season 2. The main villain of the movie should have been Brainiac with Lex helping him. Have it that Zod's key and the ship corrupt each other and creates this entity. It has Lex use Zod's body to create itself a body. Brainiac is now the one that knows about Darkseid's coming to Earth because of their time in the Phantom Zone. Don't kill Superman at the end. They all know about Darkseid so have Superman leave to prepare and he tells Batman and Diana to prepare on Earth (forming the Justice League). This allows for Superman to not be there when Darkseid's forces attack in Justice League instead of being dead. He comes back when Earth's forces are kinda against the wall. He brings with him Martian Manhunter and maybe Green Lantern (as chronicled in MoS2 ). Huh. That's actually a pretty good plot. Definitely a big improvement over what they already had. We already had the "people are suspicious about Superman" in MOS. It would have been nice to see the public celebrate Superman in this movie, with a tiny faction still against him. And yeah, Braniac would have made more sense, as well as not killing Superman. Superman's death should be reserved for much later, once we've gotten attached to him and his death would then provide more impact. I pretty much used the actual movie we got plus a natural progression from MoS. I have no clue how they couldn't see Brainiac as the natural progression from MoS, but instead go 0-100 using Doomsday. If anything, using Zod's body for Doomsday should have been a flashback in a later movie. Something he did in secret while helping Brainiac. Save that for JL 4 or 5.
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