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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Feb 26, 2017 5:45:28 GMT
Season 6 would be the worst season if it weren't for season 7. You must be from the future. Awesome. We know what's coming. It is The Cringe That Was Promised. |
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Post by naterdawg on Feb 26, 2017 5:46:23 GMT
The Lucy Show, when Lucy went from being a widow with two children to being a "single gal," working for Mr. Mooney. Her children completely disappeared and were never mentioned again.
Bewitched, when Dick York left and Dick Sargent came in (this is perhaps the most obvious example of jumping the shark, outside of Happy Days).
Laverne and Shirley, when the girls relocated to California, Shirley left the show, and suddenly, it was 1983 instead of 1958.
Happy Days. Long before Fonzie jumping the real shark, the introduction of Chachi as a character was the show's first shark jump. Nobody in the late 50s had his 70s helmet hair.
Hazel - when Mr. B and his wife left the show, a new couple was introduced, and amazingly, they took in "Sport" and Hazel!
The Avengers--when Mrs. Peel left.
The Brady Bunch - when they became a singing family.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 6:21:34 GMT
You must be from the future. Awesome. We know what's coming. It is The Cringe That Was Promised. Strange way of thinking to focus your criticism on the greatest television show in history. I myself save my criticism for the unwatchable garbage that the networks put out. Whatever floats your boat i guess. Just out of curiosity what are say your top 10 television shows in history or are you to afraid to get criticized yourself? |
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Post by Jayman on Feb 26, 2017 7:07:05 GMT
Sliders jumped the shark when they got a new executive producer who insisted on using movie plots for pretty much every episode. The show was just never the same after that, even when they got away from that format. I don't think it dipped all that much in quality or they did anything that outlandish. I felt overall the series is solid but it should've been so much better because the concept is great. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Feb 26, 2017 7:09:21 GMT
We know what's coming. It is The Cringe That Was Promised. Strange way of thinking to focus your criticism on the greatest television show in history. I myself save my criticism for the unwatchable garbage that the networks put out. Whatever floats your boat i guess. Just out of curiosity what are say your top 10 television shows in history or are you to afraid to get criticized yourself? I don't watch the unwatchable stuff. I have no criticism for it. I reserve this for things which started well and turned disappointing. I could tear Westworld to shreds for this reason if I cared to.
I don't think I have 10 top TV shows. I loved "I, Claudius".
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 7:10:43 GMT
Post any TV show from any time and suggest when you think it jumped the shark. Or any that you think they left the boat in dry dock. Happy Days - You know when. What do you have for us? Gilligan's Island.  I've been watching TV since I was this high so there're lots of examples of shows going off the rails, the first of which I can think of being The Man from U.N.C.L.E. and The Wild Wild West. Both of these shows were excellent for two seasons each then the writing went to hell. So, in those cases the reason the failed was possibly by firing writers for one reason (money) or other. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 7:11:09 GMT
Aeon Flux - when the characters started talking/ post pilot episodes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 7:16:02 GMT
City Confidential. When they changed the narrator from Paul Winfield. Such TV shows are successful very largely due to the narrator. A great narrator establishes a trust with the audience, a bond. Then, I presume, an actor's agent will try to negotiate more money and ignorant producers won't pay and hre someone for less money. Down the show goes. The audience hates losing that bond for no reason.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 7:21:20 GMT
Strange way of thinking to focus your criticism on the greatest television show in history. I myself save my criticism for the unwatchable garbage that the networks put out. Whatever floats your boat i guess. Just out of curiosity what are say your top 10 television shows in history or are you to afraid to get criticized yourself? I don't watch the unwatchable stuff. I have no criticism for it. I reserve this for things which started well and turned disappointing. I could tear Westworld to shreds for this reason if I cared to.
I don't think I have 10 top TV shows. I loved "I, Claudius".
Soo... you dont agree with the 9.9 rating for both Battle of the Bastards and The Winds of Winter? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 7:27:43 GMT
Bewitched, when Dick York left and Dick Sargent came in (this is perhaps the most obvious example of jumping the shark, outside of Happy Days). Dick York was a fantastic actor and played Darrin perfectly. His loss couldn't be helped, though, due to his chronic, debilitating back problems. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Feb 26, 2017 8:25:43 GMT
I don't watch the unwatchable stuff. I have no criticism for it. I reserve this for things which started well and turned disappointing. I could tear Westworld to shreds for this reason if I cared to.
I don't think I have 10 top TV shows. I loved "I, Claudius".
Soo... you dont agree with the 9.9 rating for both Battle of the Bastards and The Winds of Winter? No. Battle of the Bastards was a terrible piece of fan pleasing nonsense. Masterfully executed of course but I shook my head at it the whole time. The stuff is getting more and more popular because it satisfies the emotional at the cost of logic and characterisation.
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Post by telegonus on Feb 26, 2017 9:33:20 GMT
77 Sunset Strip jumped the shark big time when Jack Webb took charge, jettisoned all the regulars but Stu Bailey (Efrem Zimbalist, Jr.), focused the entire show on him, and it died a cruel death. Some might say the slide began a year or so earlier when Kookie was promoted from car hop to full time member of Spencer & Bailey detective agency. One thing's for sure: the show was getting old, and its "youth appeal" was bound to fade with the changing times.
Burke's Law totally fell apart when the producers stupidly made Amos Burke a secret agent, changed the name of the show, in an attempt to jump on the James Bond secret agent bandwagon, and this ruined what almost surely would have been another couple of seasons for the series.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 9:58:31 GMT
Soo... you dont agree with the 9.9 rating for both Battle of the Bastards and The Winds of Winter? No. Battle of the Bastards was a terrible piece of fan pleasing nonsense. Masterfully executed of course but I shook my head at it the whole time. The stuff is getting more and more popular because it satisfies the emotional at the cost of logic and characterisation.
Its gotta suck to never be satisfied or appreciate anything. Certainly hope your not married. I thought BOTB was one of the 5 greatest episodes in television history and so did everyone else apparently according to the ratings. I dont think GOT is perfect by any means... for example i found the acting ability and believability lacking when it came to the female warriors from Dorne. As far as satisfying the audience emotionally i would say by killing off half the cast it would be the one show that just doesnt seem to give a fuck about placating to the audience. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Feb 26, 2017 10:22:37 GMT
No. Battle of the Bastards was a terrible piece of fan pleasing nonsense. Masterfully executed of course but I shook my head at it the whole time. The stuff is getting more and more popular because it satisfies the emotional at the cost of logic and characterisation.
Its gotta suck to never be satisfied or appreciate anything. Not as much as talking to fools who don't understand what you're saying. I told you I criticise things because I appreciated their earlier quality but you'd rather jump to your own conclusions rather than taking note of arguments so I suggest you stop trying to discuss things and just go to a place where you can click "like" buttons. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 10:33:06 GMT
Noone understands what your saying because you havent actually said anything. How exactly has the quality gone down?
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Feb 26, 2017 11:05:15 GMT
Noone understands what your saying because you havent actually said anything. How exactly has the quality gone down? The writing has become illogical, events unrealistic and decisions were made out of character. Stannis escaping the defeat alone before Winterfell to run into Brienne was one of those utterly unrealistic things done just so Brienne could have her cake. In the next episode, she got to eat it too by running after Sansa without any logical reasons. She couldn't know Sansa had escaped and had no reasons to follow what sounded like a pretty normal hunting party for food but inexperienced Pod and wretched Theon got to kill professional soldiers without taking a scratch. That's when you knew this show was no longer living up to its own standards.
At the same time, Davos was stupidly forgetting his mission and risking his life to stay next to the corpse of the man who had refused to help him the episode before rather than jumping on the opportunity to present his requests to the new man. Complete contrived garbage to bring up wanted events in spite of logic or character. It went on this way for the rest of the season.
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Post by Jedan Archer on Feb 26, 2017 11:18:01 GMT
It's certified in Happy Days episode "Hollywood, Part 3", when the Fonzie guy on water skis jumped over a shark - never seen the show though.
For me Battlestar Galactica in the Season 3 finale when everybody heard that Bob Dillon (Watchtower) song in their heads and was a Cylon, and Starbucks came back as an angel. Cringewave galore, show IMO never recovered from that absurdity.
Lost from Episode 1 on, as - contrary to popular believe - it did not lose it's mojo with Paulo & Nicki, but was an empty mystery box hoax from it's inception.
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Post by debunked on Feb 26, 2017 12:49:59 GMT
We know what's coming. It is The Cringe That Was Promised. Strange way of thinking to focus your criticism on the greatest television show in history. I myself save my criticism for the unwatchable garbage that the networks put out. Whatever floats your boat i guess. Just out of curiosity what are say your top 10 television shows in history or are you to afraid to get criticized yourself? Game of Thrones is so far away from being the greatest television show in history. Ever since it caught up with the book material it has descended into mediocre fan fiction. |
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Post by ashverses on Feb 26, 2017 13:57:10 GMT
Season 6 would be the worst season if it weren't for season 7. You must be from the future. Awesome. Sorry, Season 6 of GOT was great. I must have been so tired that I had thought you were talking about The Walking Dead. GOT has not jumped the shark yet for me. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Feb 26, 2017 14:17:52 GMT
You must be from the future. Awesome. Sorry, Season 6 of GOT was great. I must have been so tired that I had thought you were talking about The Walking Dead. GOT has not jumped the shark yet for me. It rode the dragon. There's no denying it  |
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