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Post by ashverses on Feb 26, 2017 14:19:29 GMT
Sorry, Season 6 of GOT was great. I must have been so tired that I had thought you were talking about The Walking Dead. GOT has not jumped the shark yet for me. It rode the dragon. There's no denying it To each their own. Out of curiosity, did you read the books?
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Feb 26, 2017 14:25:46 GMT
It rode the dragon. There's no denying it To each their own. Out of curiosity, did you read the books? Yes. The show used to be better than the books.
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Post by ashverses on Feb 26, 2017 14:28:35 GMT
To each their own. Out of curiosity, did you read the books? Yes. The show used to be better than the books. Well, the books are almost always better. I have only read the first two, but was spoiled on the rest.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Feb 26, 2017 14:37:40 GMT
Yes. The show used to be better than the books. Well, the books are almost always better. I have only read the first two, but was spoiled on the rest. Characters are more realistic in the show, less extreme and a lot of silly stuff was left out like Mance Rayder and his spearwives infiltrating Winterfell or sick people shitting themselves to death in Meereen and I'm not even talking about Qyburn doing horrors on people in the dungeons or the utterly ridiculous Euron Greyjoy and his dragon horn.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 19:12:49 GMT
Noone understands what your saying because you havent actually said anything. How exactly has the quality gone down? The writing has become illogical, events unrealistic and decisions were made out of character. Stannis escaping the defeat alone before Winterfell to run into Brienne was one of those utterly unrealistic things done just so Brienne could have her cake. In the next episode, she got to eat it too by running after Sansa without any logical reasons. She couldn't know Sansa had escaped and had no reasons to follow what sounded like a pretty normal hunting party for food but inexperienced Pod and wretched Theon got to kill professional soldiers without taking a scratch. That's when you knew this show was no longer living up to its own standards.
At the same time, Davos was stupidly forgetting his mission and risking his life to stay next to the corpse of the man who had refused to help him the episode before rather than jumping on the opportunity to present his requests to the new man. Complete contrived garbage to bring up wanted events in spite of logic or character. It went on this way for the rest of the season.
Unfortunately that is par for the course when it comes to film/tv adapted from books due to time constraints. I cant think of examples off hand from the 1st four seasons but im sure there are plenty. For me the bigger concern is how much acting talent they've killed off and finding replacements up to the task. Also, imo the fact that the shows two best episodes were its last two make saying it jumped the shark nonsensical.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 21:03:45 GMT
77 Sunset Strip jumped the shark big time when Jack Webb took charge, jettisoned all the regulars but Stu Bailey (Efrem Zimbalist, Jr.), focused the entire show on him, and it died a cruel death. Some might say the slide began a year or so earlier when Kookie was promoted from car hop to full time member of Spencer & Bailey detective agency. One thing's for sure: the show was getting old, and its "youth appeal" was bound to fade with the changing times. Burke's Law totally fell apart when the producers stupidly made Amos Burke a secret agent, changed the name of the show, in an attempt to jump on the James Bond secret agent bandwagon, and this ruined what almost surely would have been another couple of seasons for the series. You must be old like me.
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Post by flasuss on Feb 27, 2017 0:56:39 GMT
Dexter in s06, with the Colin Hanks/Edward James Olmos storyline with the twist EVERYONE saw coming in the first episode AND the "Debra wants to fuck Dexter, fully supported by her psychiatrist" at the same time.
Game of Thrones in the last few episodes of s05. Between Ramsay Snow becoming a ninja, Stannis burning his daughter (and then the writers pathetically trying to say they followed exactly what happened in the books, which was patently false), "you want a good girl but need a bad pussy", etc, it was clear to me that it was time to go.
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Post by artcurus on Feb 27, 2017 1:06:50 GMT
MacGyver jumped the shark when it kind of became The Richard Dean Anderson Concern Of The Week Show. As much I hate to admit, the new MacGyver is much better written. We tried to watch the old one and they focused wayy too much on RDA and his love interest.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 3:21:13 GMT
Moonlighting, when they began talking directly to the camera.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 3:31:05 GMT
Sliders jumped the shark when they got a new executive producer who insisted on using movie plots for pretty much every episode. The show was just never the same after that, even when they got away from that format. We might be talking about the same thing but for me it was when they started to focus on those Nazi type Sliders too much and also when they got rid of practically the entire original cast but kept going with it anyway. **** Big Bang Theory - when they started to couple up, Howard married is just boring. Sheldon with a girlfriend goes against everything he is.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Feb 27, 2017 3:39:15 GMT
The writing has become illogical, events unrealistic and decisions were made out of character. Stannis escaping the defeat alone before Winterfell to run into Brienne was one of those utterly unrealistic things done just so Brienne could have her cake. In the next episode, she got to eat it too by running after Sansa without any logical reasons. She couldn't know Sansa had escaped and had no reasons to follow what sounded like a pretty normal hunting party for food but inexperienced Pod and wretched Theon got to kill professional soldiers without taking a scratch. That's when you knew this show was no longer living up to its own standards.
At the same time, Davos was stupidly forgetting his mission and risking his life to stay next to the corpse of the man who had refused to help him the episode before rather than jumping on the opportunity to present his requests to the new man. Complete contrived garbage to bring up wanted events in spite of logic or character. It went on this way for the rest of the season.
Unfortunately that is par for the course when it comes to film/tv adapted from books due to time constraints. I cant think of examples off hand from the 1st four seasons but im sure there are plenty. For me the bigger concern is how much acting talent they've killed off and finding replacements up to the task. Also, imo the fact that the shows two best episodes were its last two make saying it jumped the shark nonsensical. The last two episodes are not the best, just the most successful in terms of pleased audience. Having quality judged by the quantity of fools it pleases is economically sound but artistically moronic. You "are sure there are plenty" such examples in the 1st season but won't be able to come up with many if at all and I have pages of them for S6. The books on which the show is based rely on tight logic and the show has only had minor, inconsequential diversions from it. When they passed the end of the original material, however, the writers decided to sacrifice logic for more immediate emotional investment, which is a sure recipe for economical success. What was a story for fantasy nerds became a show for emoting fools. I am not calling the writers incapable, by the way. They made a conscious decision.
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Post by DSDSquared on Mar 6, 2017 18:37:42 GMT
I am one of the people who think Game of Thrones is the greatest show ever made, so I disagree with this. I will say that Season 5 was the worst season, but still some of the best TV out there. I agree that BOTB is overrated. It is not in my top five Game of Thrones episodes, but it is still very well done. However, Winds of Winter is my favorite episode of the show and was masterfully done, especially the first 25 minutes or so. I just do not see how the show has jumped the shark in any way when Season 6 was one of the best ones.
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Post by Obi-fun-to-know-me on Mar 6, 2017 19:35:20 GMT
24 - Live Another Day, when a solid show with terrific writing suddenly became cheap with lazy writing and crappy cgi effects etc. A big disappointment to say the least!
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Post by Dontrocktheboat on Mar 7, 2017 1:00:07 GMT
Prison break by airing season 2. The story was told and no storylines driving it forward.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Mar 7, 2017 10:20:08 GMT
I am one of the people who think Game of Thrones is the greatest show ever made, so I disagree with this. I will say that Season 5 was the worst season, but still some of the best TV out there. I agree that BOTB is overrated. It is not in my top five Game of Thrones episodes, but it is still very well done. However, Winds of Winter is my favorite episode of the show and was masterfully done, especially the first 25 minutes or so. I just do not see how the show has jumped the shark in any way when Season 6 was one of the best ones. Game Of Thrones truly took a turn when it made Daenerys a superhero, Tyrion an all around good guy awaiting recognition and Jon Snow a chosen one who cannot die no matter how stupidly he will act. It moved from an intricate, logic based story to a fan pleasing series capitalising on emotional shock or satisfaction. This happened at the end of S5 when Daenerys' escape on Drogon was portrayed as a victory and when Brienne was forcefully made to get her revenge in spite of any logic. It continued all along Season 6 where plot contrivance replaced reason and the show was made to move from one shock to the next at an increased pace. Season 6 is the most successful season because it is the one which no longer appeals to intelligence. It merely pleases the broadest, dumbest part of its fan base by becoming cheap, predictable and spectacular.
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Post by ashverses on Mar 7, 2017 14:32:01 GMT
I am one of the people who think Game of Thrones is the greatest show ever made, so I disagree with this. I will say that Season 5 was the worst season, but still some of the best TV out there. I agree that BOTB is overrated. It is not in my top five Game of Thrones episodes, but it is still very well done. However, Winds of Winter is my favorite episode of the show and was masterfully done, especially the first 25 minutes or so. I just do not see how the show has jumped the shark in any way when Season 6 was one of the best ones. Game Of Thrones truly took a turn when it made Daenerys a superhero, Tyrion an all around good guy awaiting recognition and Jon Snow a chosen one who cannot die no matter how stupidly he will act. It moved from an intricate, logic based story to a fan pleasing series capitalising on emotional shock or satisfaction. This happened at the end of S5 when Daenerys' escape on Drogon was portrayed as a victory and when Brienne was forcefully made to get her revenge in spite of any logic. It continued all along Season 6 where plot contrivance replaced reason and the show was made to move from one shock to the next at an increased pace. Season 6 is the most successful season because it is the one which no longer appeals to intelligence. It merely pleases the broadest, dumbest part of its fan base by becoming cheap, predictable and spectacular.
This is really what you are saying? Come on, you are better than that. I guess I'm very broad person who lacks any intelligence. Stop dealing in hyperbole and maybe see that others can have a different opinion than you without being broad, dumb and unintelligent. I can't argue with your narrow mind.
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Post by sariz on Mar 7, 2017 20:21:05 GMT
Prison break: just at the end of season 2.
This series shouldn't have had more than one season, season 2 was a stretch the show should have ended with the president forgiving both borthers and happily ever after but nooo they had to make season 3 and 4
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Post by twothousandonemark on Mar 8, 2017 7:34:34 GMT
Family Guy - Return of the Jedi
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Post by moviebuffbrad on May 11, 2017 4:23:39 GMT
That 70s Show - Topher Grace and Ashton Kutcher leaving and being replaced by Josh Meyers
Roseanne - winning the lottery
House of Cards - threesome
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Post by Winter_King on May 11, 2017 10:12:45 GMT
When Mulder left the X-Files. Oh, and also the entire reunion in 2016, that was terrible. I felt that the conspiracies episodes was terrible but Mulder and Scully meet the Were-Monster was a classic in line with Bad Blood and Jose Chung "From Outer Space".
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