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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 5, 2017 3:56:55 GMT
Apart from being the ones who kickstarted the current shared universe craze in Hollywood (for better or worse), Infinity War and it's currently untitled sequel certainly feel like they're going to be these huge events. Between the extensive cast, the supposed scope of the story, and the fact that these films are supposed to serve as the culmination of everything that came before, it's hard to deny that IW and Avengers 4 feel like they're going to be massive event films.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 5, 2017 4:11:04 GMT
Yeah I think the last major blockbuster that really felt like an event on this scale was "Return of the King".
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 5, 2017 4:14:28 GMT
So basically the MCU needs to be rebooted.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 5, 2017 9:19:42 GMT
Yeah it's funny that every studio trying to cash in on the whole share universe. Especially since not many believed marvel could pull it off.
Sucks that the Dark Universe crashed and burn with The Mummy. I was hoping that Universal studios would be able to pull that off :/
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 12:31:00 GMT
Yeah but that's what Civil War and Avengers 2 were supposed to be as well. I'd be more excited if the quality was consistent.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 5, 2017 14:41:53 GMT
Apart from being the ones who kickstarted the current shared universe craze in Hollywood (for better or worse), Infinity War and it's currently untitled sequel certainly feel like they're going to be these huge events. Between the extensive cast, the supposed scope of the story, and the fact that these films are supposed to serve as the culmination of everything that came before, it's hard to deny that IW and Avengers 4 feel like they're going to be massive event films. I seriously contend that with Infinity War and Avengers 4, we will look back at what Marvel did in creating a 22 film shared universe of solid movies as the greatest achievement in film history. They took a huge risk, they called their shot, and they consistently delivered over and over and over on a long term plan that was far beyond the scope of anything ever done before.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 5, 2017 14:43:24 GMT
Yeah but that's what Civil War and Avengers 2 were supposed to be as well. I'd be more excited if the quality was consistent. It has been. Civil War is one of if not the greatest comic book film ever, and there is no quality dip in Avengers 2. Whether or not it's in the same league as films like Avengers or Civil War isn't a fault of quality.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 14:45:47 GMT
Yeah but that's what Civil War and Avengers 2 were supposed to be as well. I'd be more excited if the quality was consistent. It has been. Civil War is one of if not the greatest comic book film ever, and there is no quality dip in Avengers 2. Whether or not it's in the same league as films like Avengers or Civil War isn't a fault of quality. Cool story, bro.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 5, 2017 14:49:11 GMT
Yeah I think the last major blockbuster that really felt like an event on this scale was "Return of the King". I was just thinking that.
I was a massive LOTR fan, and remember full well how large the scale of that project was. Actors were filming for 2 straight years, the studio was like a living city, the detail that went into the costumes and scale models, and to produce three films of that caliber was amazing. I can sit and watch the behind the scenes on those films for hours and it's interesting as hell.
Now just realize that Marvel called their shot. They took the risk of establishing 4 solo franchises in order to promote an Avengers film and they were so good at it that anticipation went through the roof for years before they got to it, AND THEN!!!! they had the balls the call their shot with Thanos. They committed to a 22 total film arc and that is fucking unbelievable. When we look back and see what they've done developing a connected universe with that many films at a consistently high quality, I don't see how anything comes close to being as big of an achievement in cinematic history. I really don't.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 5, 2017 14:52:12 GMT
It has been. Civil War is one of if not the greatest comic book film ever, and there is no quality dip in Avengers 2. Whether or not it's in the same league as films like Avengers or Civil War isn't a fault of quality. Cool story, bro. I just wish you could appreciate what they've accomplished that you have the opportunity to live through and experience first hand. The MCU is an unbelievably cool achievement. They've provided everything worth getting excited about.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 5, 2017 15:44:10 GMT
Yeah I think the last major blockbuster that really felt like an event on this scale was "Return of the King". I think others after that were at least as big too, e.g., what about The Force Awakens, the makers (ie LF/Disney/JJ) managed to do one thing right with this, namely to (misleadingly) sell and hype it as Generation-Defining Event Movie that you must experience or you have not lived. And the lemmings (me included ) ate it up. Only Avatar was bigger in my recollection. That was Dec 2015 and IMO a bigger event than any Nolan Batman, DC/MCU, Potter or LotR movie.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 15:44:29 GMT
I just wish you could appreciate what they've accomplished that you have the opportunity to live through and experience first hand. The MCU is an unbelievably cool achievement. They've provided everything worth getting excited about. I agree. I love the MCU. But I'm not going to praise films which don't deserve it. IMO Civil War could have been much better and Avengers AOU is pretty awful.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 15:48:43 GMT
Apart from being the ones who kickstarted the current shared universe craze in Hollywood (for better or worse), Infinity War and it's currently untitled sequel certainly feel like they're going to be these huge events. Between the extensive cast, the supposed scope of the story, and the fact that these films are supposed to serve as the culmination of everything that came before, it's hard to deny that IW and Avengers 4 feel like they're going to be massive event films. I seriously contend that with Infinity War and Avengers 4, we will look back at what Marvel did in creating a 22 film shared universe of solid movies as the greatest achievement in film history. They took a huge risk, they called their shot, and they consistently delivered over and over and over on a long term plan that was far beyond the scope of anything ever done before. From a producing perspective, yes. From a writing and acting perspective, well it's been patchy.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 5, 2017 17:48:54 GMT
I just wish you could appreciate what they've accomplished that you have the opportunity to live through and experience first hand. The MCU is an unbelievably cool achievement. They've provided everything worth getting excited about. I agree. I love the MCU. But I'm not going to praise films which don't deserve it. IMO Civil War could have been much better and Avengers AOU is pretty awful. Exactly. The MCU needs to be rebooted. Innit?
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 5, 2017 20:00:03 GMT
I just wish you could appreciate what they've accomplished that you have the opportunity to live through and experience first hand. The MCU is an unbelievably cool achievement. They've provided everything worth getting excited about. I agree. I love the MCU. But I'm not going to praise films which don't deserve it. IMO Civil War could have been much better and Avengers AOU is pretty awful. Civil War is one of the great executions in comic history and AOU is solid fun. No clue what you're talking about.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 5, 2017 20:01:13 GMT
I seriously contend that with Infinity War and Avengers 4, we will look back at what Marvel did in creating a 22 film shared universe of solid movies as the greatest achievement in film history. They took a huge risk, they called their shot, and they consistently delivered over and over and over on a long term plan that was far beyond the scope of anything ever done before. From a producing perspective, yes. From a writing and acting perspective, well it's been patchy. Only if patchy means it's damn near perfect.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 20:21:52 GMT
From a producing perspective, yes. From a writing and acting perspective, well it's been patchy. Only if patchy means it's damn near perfect. Perfect? Ant-Man? Iron Man 3? GOTG? Quite simply, they are not perfect. They have achieved a great deal, and yes I like certain MCU films very much but I wouldn't say that the acting and writing of the MCU is perfect unless you're a parody troll.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 20:27:47 GMT
I agree. I love the MCU. But I'm not going to praise films which don't deserve it. IMO Civil War could have been much better and Avengers AOU is pretty awful. Civil War is one of the great executions in comic history and AOU is solid fun. No clue what you're talking about. No, The Winter Soldier is an excellent film. Civil War is not. Granted, it's not bad, but it's not the masterpiece that you claim it is. AOU is fun? All I know that it's tacky and otherwise forgettable. We have every reason to expect more from the MCU because they have shown that they can achieve great things.
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Post by charzhino on Aug 5, 2017 20:33:12 GMT
If Infinity War is better than the 1st Avengers film or at the very least on par, I will forgive all the mediocre, forgettable films released since the end of phase 1.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 21:25:05 GMT
If Infinity War is better than the 1st Avengers film or at the very least on par, I will forgive all the mediocre, forgettable films released since the end of phase 1. Well Winter Soldier was already better than The Avengers and Civil War and Guardians of the Galaxy were equal to it and Doctor Strange, GOTG 2 and Homecoming came close so I can see that happening with Infinity War.
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