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Post by formersamhmd on Sept 2, 2017 22:24:23 GMT
I can say the same about you and DC movies. No you couldn't. I generally much prefer Marvel's movies to DC's, most people do these days. That doesn't stop The Dark Knight series from being the best out the lot though. As good as these Marvel movies are and they have all been good there's a reason why The Dark Knight is #4 on IMDB out the many thousands upon thousands of movies that been made. It is in a league of its own. Whether you agree or not, it is the highest rated superhero movie ever, by audiences and critics. It's also an Oscar winner. Thanks to Heath Ledger's you-know-what making it immune to criticism.
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Post by formersamhmd on Sept 2, 2017 22:26:10 GMT
I think both marvel and dc fans are guilty of this review fake adoration. they only use it when it reflects their marvel and dc movies in a good light. clearly rt and box office is not working for marvel anymore so the MCU idiots now say it is worthless. DCEU finally has a movie that 'critics' like so rt and critics are now relevant to them. both camps are guilty but the mcu idiots are the biggest guilty brats of all. they all used to brag about critics which I find ironic because before MCU many comic films aka X-Men, X2, Batman Begins, The Crow, Batman 1989. all had good reviews but in that era no one ever obsessed about RT and critics. MCU fans made RT a thing because they were fully aware critics kissed MCU ass regardless of the useless stuff they fed to us. things seem to be changing or not? No, we can accept that Inhumans isn't looking that good. We aren't that hypersensitive. It was DC and Fox who started the RT conspiracy thing, they just can't stand that MCU movies are actually appreciated by anyone. Mainly because they thumb their nose at the way DC and Fox did CBMs.
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Post by DC-Fan on Sept 2, 2017 22:45:54 GMT
the mcu idiots are the biggest guilty brats of all. they all used to brag about critics which I find ironic because before MCU many comic films aka X-Men, X2, Batman Begins, The Crow, Batman 1989. all had good reviews but in that era no one ever obsessed about RT and critics. MCU fans made RT a thing because they were fully aware critics kissed MCU ass regardless of the useless stuff they fed to us. things seem to be changing or not? Exactly! MCU fans have always made a big deal out of RT ratings. But now that RT has rated Wonder Woman as the best superhero movie of all time, suddenly MCU fans are saying the ratings don't mean anything. Such hypocrisy! 50 Best Superhero Movies of All TimeIt's a lot like that billionaire (Robert Kraft) who gave his billionaire buddy (Donald Trump) a $36,000 gift rather than donate the money to a needy charity. When the NFL hired Ted Wells to conduct the independent investigation into DeflateGate, Robert Kraft said "Ted Wells is a great choice to conduct the investigation. Wells is a man of the highest integrity." A few months later, Wells comes back and says "I've completed my independent investigation and I've concluded that the evidence proves that your boy Tom Brady did in fact cheat." All of a sudden, Robert Kraft says "Blasphemy! Ted Wells has no integrity at all!" and Kraft has his team create a website for the sole purpose of publicly dragging Wells' name and reputation through the mud. Kraft approved the hiring of Wells as the independent investigator. Kraft just didn't approve of Wells' finding that Kraft's boy Brady did in fact cheat. Such hypocrisy! And that's how MCU fans are.
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Post by formersamhmd on Sept 2, 2017 22:58:33 GMT
the mcu idiots are the biggest guilty brats of all. they all used to brag about critics which I find ironic because before MCU many comic films aka X-Men, X2, Batman Begins, The Crow, Batman 1989. all had good reviews but in that era no one ever obsessed about RT and critics. MCU fans made RT a thing because they were fully aware critics kissed MCU ass regardless of the useless stuff they fed to us. things seem to be changing or not? Exactly! MCU fans have always made a big deal out of RT ratings. But now that RT has rated Wonder Woman as the best superhero movie of all time, suddenly MCU fans are saying the ratings don't mean anything. Such hypocrisy!
No, we're just pointing out the artificial boosters WW got that made it look more than mediocre.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 23:09:01 GMT
You are not right and I've been saying the Oscars are worthless since 2000, before I ever saw the first X-Men film. Actually, I've never used reviews or scores, ever, in my arguments. So nice try, but you're wrong yet again. The FoX-Men and DCEU boards are over there. Nobody cares if you think the Oscars are worthless. You're a guy on a movie forum and that's it, your opinion holds no weight infront of the hundreds of people in the actual industry who vote on these things. If I'd have said BvS was better than The Avengers you wouldn't have been able to get over to Rotten Tomatoes fast enough. It's the same with everyone, these things never seem to matter when it goes their way. Alfred Hitchcock never won a single "Best Director" award. Still think the Academy infallible? Wrong again. I've never used Rotten Tomatoes, as you'd know if you ever paid any attention. I don't need RT to prove what a piece of crap BvS is.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Sept 3, 2017 1:07:00 GMT
Inhumans have enough juicy history to build a TV series on, and with ties to Agents of SHIELD( Which I do genuinely like, just getting it out there) there's plenty of crossover potential. But I'm not sure what they were thinking with this attempt, it's definitely up there as one of the most expensive TV productions in history yet it still feels cheap looking - Attilan doesn't look like a feast for the eyes, and the color grading is extremely muted and almost nothing stands out. Inhumans was Kirby as Jack could do, and given how Thor Ragnarok looks Inhumans could've at least tried to be more Kirby-esque but its more Kirby-muted. I guess there's room for improvement though. I wish the film rights to The Fantastic Four were with Disney, because they have such rich history with The Inhumans - Crystal's been romantically linked with Johnny Storm and Ben Grimm, and both Crystal and Medusa have been FF members. It does look cheap looking. I'm not sure why but a lot of these superhero TV shows seem that way except for the Netflix ones. I'm not impressed at all with how Blackbolt looks or the others. The CGI on Lockjaw is pretty shabby as well. A series for Daredevil kinds works because it's mostly just a guy in a simple ninja/armoured suit with no expensive looking superpowers but that's not the case here. They could have made a couple big movies out of this but instead we have a series that probably won't last too long. Mostly its a schedule type thing. The Netflix shows have more time to choreograph their action, block out their scenes, and be more attentive to camera work and design. There's no way Arrow or The Flash on The CW would ever attempt an excessively long action sequence without a single edited cut, they simply do not have the time. It helps a lot with subject matter, because The Defenders have been established as street level vigilantes who are not handling major threats on the level that The Avengers face. I think a large sum of the budget for Inhumans went to the use of IMAX and how the production was made specifically to be in that format for the first two episodes even though its a TV series. That was just the first two episodes, so who knows how they'll utilize their resources for the rest of the season. Even so, I see this series will get a new showrunner(s) and more emphasis on style will be applied as it continues, which is what they're also doing for Iron Fist's second season, coincidentally both programs were ran by Scott Buck the same man who turned Dexter from one of the best shows on TV to a laughing stock. Most fans of the show I've talked to consider Buck's run to be bad fan-fiction and not canon.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Sept 3, 2017 1:13:33 GMT
Inhumans have enough juicy history to build a TV series on, and with ties to Agents of SHIELD( Which I do genuinely like, just getting it out there) there's plenty of crossover potential. But I'm not sure what they were thinking with this attempt, it's definitely up there as one of the most expensive TV productions in history yet it still feels cheap looking - Attilan doesn't look like a feast for the eyes, and the color grading is extremely muted and almost nothing stands out. Inhumans was Kirby as Jack could do, and given how Thor Ragnarok looks Inhumans could've at least tried to be more Kirby-esque but its more Kirby-muted. I guess there's room for improvement though. I wish the film rights to The Fantastic Four were with Disney, because they have such rich history with The Inhumans - Crystal's been romantically linked with Johnny Storm and Ben Grimm, and both Crystal and Medusa have been FF members. It's because Marvel tv and Marvel movies are together but at the same time not. The tv division got Inhumans. I'm wondering if when we saw Inhumans on their movie timeline it was because of the tv show being in IMAX. I believe they were planning on a movie, Vin Diesel definitely expressed interest in Black Bolt and occasionally got fans excited for it, but other movies came into active development and they just couldn't find enough space to keep it on their slate of films, so a TV series was done instead.
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Post by formersamhmd on Sept 3, 2017 2:44:05 GMT
It does look cheap looking. I'm not sure why but a lot of these superhero TV shows seem that way except for the Netflix ones. I'm not impressed at all with how Blackbolt looks or the others. The CGI on Lockjaw is pretty shabby as well. A series for Daredevil kinds works because it's mostly just a guy in a simple ninja/armoured suit with no expensive looking superpowers but that's not the case here. They could have made a couple big movies out of this but instead we have a series that probably won't last too long. Mostly its a schedule type thing. The Netflix shows have more time to choreograph their action, block out their scenes, and be more attentive to camera work and design. There's no way Arrow or The Flash on The CW would ever attempt an excessively long action sequence without a single edited cut, they simply do not have the time. It helps a lot with subject matter, because The Defenders have been established as street level vigilantes who are not handling major threats on the level that The Avengers face. I think a large sum of the budget for Inhumans went to the use of IMAX and how the production was made specifically to be in that format for the first two episodes even though its a TV series. That was just the first two episodes, so who knows how they'll utilize their resources for the rest of the season. Even so, I see this series will get a new showrunner(s) and more emphasis on style will be applied as it continues, which is what they're also doing for Iron Fist's second season, coincidentally both programs were ran by Scott Buck the same man who turned Dexter from one of the best shows on TV to a laughing stock. Most fans of the show I've talked to consider Buck's run to be bad fan-fiction and not canon. Buck just seems to have bad luck with shows. With Dexter a lot of the real problems were due to the Showtime Execs stretching the show out past it's proper end point and not allowing the original showrunner to end it the way he wanted to (killing off Dexter), with Iron Fist they didn't have the budget to show Kun Lun or the cool stuff Danny did in his past, and because he didn't wear a mask they couldn't sub in a stuntman for the fights like with Daredevil (who does wear a mask).
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Post by summers8 on Sept 3, 2017 3:50:56 GMT
just out of curiosity as I went off topic. is this the inhumans that was meant to replace x-men? what was marvel thinking. Not even the Avengers can replace X-Men in the Marvel lore. Why did they get to try with this.
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Post by DC-Fan on Sept 3, 2017 3:58:02 GMT
just out of curiosity as I went off topic. is this the inhumans that was meant to replace x-men? what was marvel thinking. Not even the Avengers can replace X-Men in the Marvel lore. Why did they get to try with this. Because they don't have the movie rights to the X-Men so they have to settle for lame replacements like the Avengers and Inhumans.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Sept 3, 2017 4:28:33 GMT
just out of curiosity as I went off topic. is this the inhumans that was meant to replace x-men? what was marvel thinking. Not even the Avengers can replace X-Men in the Marvel lore. Why did they get to try with this. Because they don't have the movie rights to the X-Men so they have to settle for lame replacements like the Avengers and Inhumans. You've never read a comic in your life if you think Avengers and Inhumans are lame.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 5:35:02 GMT
Can't we just ignore the constant DC/Marvel bickering and all agree that Inhumans looks like complete trash?
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Post by formersamhmd on Sept 3, 2017 10:49:11 GMT
just out of curiosity as I went off topic. is this the inhumans that was meant to replace x-men? what was marvel thinking. Not even the Avengers can replace X-Men in the Marvel lore. Why did they get to try with this. No, they just figured that since they realized how awesome the rest of their characters were (the ones they'd neglected because the X-Men writers were afraid they could challenge the X-Men) they should start putting effort into doing shows and comics about them too. The X-Fans, naturally, are PO'ed that the X-Men are no longer the Belles of the Ball and people are realizing that Marvel has more cool, interesting characters beyond them.
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Post by summers8 on Sept 3, 2017 11:40:20 GMT
Can't we just ignore the constant DC/Marvel bickering and all agree that Inhumans looks like complete trash? it may not have looked completely trash if Marvel did not think they can use inhumans as a replacement for xmen.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 15:36:03 GMT
Has anyone actually seen Inhumans?
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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 3, 2017 15:52:48 GMT
just out of curiosity as I went off topic. is this the inhumans that was meant to replace x-men? what was marvel thinking. Not even the Avengers can replace X-Men in the Marvel lore. Why did they get to try with this. They weren't meant to specifically replace them. Inhumans can't replace X-men because they stand for different things. I think people saw this because of Inhumans vs X-men and how Marvel was focusing on the properties they had the movie rights for. Fantastic Four wasn't do all that good in sales and the movies aren't helping so gone. X-men isn't doing all that hot, but they are still popular so they restructure. But X-men never went anywhere so there was no replacing. Marvel only tried to bring the Inhumans to the forefront. Something a company should do with all their comics. Loud X-men fans just hated that the comic that was mostly on top since the 90s wasn't anymore. Marvel's problem was having an Inhumans vs X-men event when they should have advertised the hell out of Inhumans and made a company wide event to get them in the public eye. They only place that you can say they replaced X-men with Inhumans is in the MCU itself. Specifically Agents of SHIELD. The show had an offshoot of what is in the Inhumans series (not the royal family) where they had a place where they trained Inhumans in how to use their powers. Then they put the terrigen mist in a place that people would get to it and their powers would emerge. Making it kinda random like becoming a mutant. Add to that the storyline went into being about anti-Inhuman factions that were like Friends of Humanity.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 3, 2017 16:07:51 GMT
Whaaaaaaaatttt? A Scott buck run show is bad? Well fuck me sideways and call me Sally!
This asshole fuck iron fist up, so I'm not surprised that Inhumans suffered.
Damn shame too, with the right team, Inhumans could have made for a good tv series.
Jeph Loeb deserves hate for this too.
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Post by Peter B. Parker on Sept 3, 2017 16:11:31 GMT
Has anyone actually seen Inhumans? not that I've heard about.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 16:26:20 GMT
Has anyone actually seen Inhumans? not that I've heard about. Well I have. To me it was more than ok. Story and characters very interesting. The one or two references to Agents of Shield were fun. I will definetly be watching the series when it comes out.
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Post by summers8 on Sept 3, 2017 19:10:46 GMT
just out of curiosity as I went off topic. is this the inhumans that was meant to replace x-men? what was marvel thinking. Not even the Avengers can replace X-Men in the Marvel lore. Why did they get to try with this. They weren't meant to specifically replace them. Inhumans can't replace X-men because they stand for different things. I think people saw this because of Inhumans vs X-men and how Marvel was focusing on the properties they had the movie rights for. Fantastic Four wasn't do all that good in sales and the movies aren't helping so gone. X-men isn't doing all that hot, but they are still popular so they restructure. But X-men never went anywhere so there was no replacing. Marvel only tried to bring the Inhumans to the forefront. Something a company should do with all their comics. Loud X-men fans just hated that the comic that was mostly on top since the 90s wasn't anymore. Marvel's problem was having an Inhumans vs X-men event when they should have advertised the hell out of Inhumans and made a company wide event to get them in the public eye. They only place that you can say they replaced X-men with Inhumans is in the MCU itself. Specifically Agents of SHIELD. The show had an offshoot of what is in the Inhumans series (not the royal family) where they had a place where they trained Inhumans in how to use their powers. Then they put the terrigen mist in a place that people would get to it and their powers would emerge. Making it kinda random like becoming a mutant. Add to that the storyline went into being about anti-Inhuman factions that were like Friends of Humanity. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Loud X-Men fans, Is that what you MCU fanartics tell yourselves.? Loud X-Men fans earned their right to be loud. Marvel had no right to screw X-men, perhaps their only saving grace series (+ Spiderman) that everyone regardless if you liked DC, Marvel, independent, loves and respect. Am so glad movies/TV shows -Logan and Legion in particular has just confimed to everybody that X-Men is the best marvel property and should be kept away from MCU , not to mention the slap on marvel’s face. Marvel ruined their system, they have been trying to replace X-Men since forever because they are angry at Fox, they have tried every time and have failed. Neither the Inhumans or Avengers have the depth and lore of X-Men to replace x-men. And just so you need to Know, F4 was not cancelled because of low sales,it was cancelled because Fox would not give up the film rights. You might want to learn the truth of marvel's betrayal before you talk. The cheering topping on the cake is when The Gifted comes out, proving to be better than the Inhumans , the Defenders and the rest of the tv MCU show. In the movie arena, Logan and DOFP have proven better than the formulaic MCU movies. Legion has killed the rest of the MCU tv shows, Gifted will be the final nail in the coffin.I see it as Karma for all the nonsense Marvel has been doing to X-Men and their fans. I once saw Agents of Shield..and I saw these words on a chalkboard...’’inhumans why we fear them’’ Sounded a lot like X-Men. I never cared to watch again.
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