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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 3, 2017 20:33:46 GMT
They weren't meant to specifically replace them. Inhumans can't replace X-men because they stand for different things. I think people saw this because of Inhumans vs X-men and how Marvel was focusing on the properties they had the movie rights for. Fantastic Four wasn't do all that good in sales and the movies aren't helping so gone. X-men isn't doing all that hot, but they are still popular so they restructure. But X-men never went anywhere so there was no replacing. Marvel only tried to bring the Inhumans to the forefront. Something a company should do with all their comics. Loud X-men fans just hated that the comic that was mostly on top since the 90s wasn't anymore. Marvel's problem was having an Inhumans vs X-men event when they should have advertised the hell out of Inhumans and made a company wide event to get them in the public eye. They only place that you can say they replaced X-men with Inhumans is in the MCU itself. Specifically Agents of SHIELD. The show had an offshoot of what is in the Inhumans series (not the royal family) where they had a place where they trained Inhumans in how to use their powers. Then they put the terrigen mist in a place that people would get to it and their powers would emerge. Making it kinda random like becoming a mutant. Add to that the storyline went into being about anti-Inhuman factions that were like Friends of Humanity. Loud X-Men fans, Is that what you MCU fanartics tell yourselves.? Loud X-Men fans earned their right to be loud. Marvel had no right to screw X-men, perhaps their only saving grace series (+ Spiderman) that everyone regardless if you liked DC, Marvel, independent, loves and respect. Am so glad movies/TV shows -Logan and Legion in particular has just confimed to everybody that X-Men is the best marvel property and should be kept away from MCU , not to mention the slap on marvel’s face. Marvel ruined their system, they have been trying to replace X-Men since forever because they are angry at Fox, they have tried every time and have failed. Neither the Inhumans or Avengers have the depth and lore of X-Men to replace x-men. And just so you need to Know, F4 was not cancelled because of low sales,it was cancelled because Fox would not give up the film rights. You might want to learn the truth of marvel's betrayal before you talk. The cheering topping on the cake is when The Gifted comes out, proving to be better than the Inhumans , the Defenders and the rest of the tv MCU show. In the movie arena, Logan and DOFP have proven better than the formulaic MCU movies. Legion has killed the rest of the MCU tv shows, Gifted will be the final nail in the coffin.I see it as Karma for all the nonsense Marvel has been doing to X-Men and their fans. I once saw Agents of Shield..and I saw these words on a chalkboard...’’inhumans why we fear them’’ Sounded a lot like X-Men. I never cared to watch again. You know you can type under this box and it will go outside the quote. I'll change it on my post. Okay, let me clarify that. The very vocal X-men fans. Also, there are very vocal fans on all sides. I'm not trying to make it out that X-men fans are the only ravenous people out there. But the ones that were crying about X-men being forgotten about were the very vocal X-men fans. And this comment that you are making is just what I am talking about in thinking that no matter what happens, the X-men should always be seen as the top comic. Even when sales and stories slip. Even if a better artist/writer team comes along on a book like... random book... New Warriors and knocks it out of the park. The sales start going up and they give it its own corner and make spin-offs team and solo books. You guys will still think that X-men should be above it because it is called X-men. Even if X-men sales fall so low that they are down to one book. And nobody is trying to replace X-men. If anything they were trying to bring them more into the light. Uncanny Avengers? I mean they put X-men into the Avengers (to help out the struggling X-men) and vice versa before, but a person like you would think they are trying to destroy the X-men by doing so. But yeah, they are trying to destroy the X-men because of Fox when the whole time they were actually using the movies in their comics (Marvel had the audacity to make Mystique look like the movie version which fans hated so they changed it back. Gay Iceman is because Singer was saying he's gay.) So that's why the F4 characters are still around. And you are saying that it's not because Fant4stic nuked in the box office and critics alike. Hmm. Funny that. Yeah, Fantastic Four was bleeding and was only around because it's Fantastic Four. Heroes might be better than Inhumans, but I really don't care. I didn't pay attention to Inhumans in the comics so... Oh, heh, you thought I was going to sit here and defend the Inhumans show because you thought I was some diehard MCU fan that will cheer on everything they do? Oh you child. And here's something about your Heroes show. It's on Fox and will be lucky to last out the season. Let's see if it can get the same treatment as Gotham. Didn't I say that Agents of SHIELD made the everyday Inhumans (not ones close to the royal family) into the MCU's version of mutants? I said that. I know I did. Gonna go back and read my post again. Yes, I said that. Nice of you to say exactly what I said like it's some kind of revelation. *Who actually sued Marvel when they made an unrelated tv show with the word mutant in the title.
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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 3, 2017 20:39:11 GMT
Oh, and if you didn't know, summers8, I drew my avatar. If you really look at it that is Storm (Fox). She's holding baby Groot (MCU) and wearing a Black Lightning (DC) hoodie. I did it like that on purpose so it wouldn't be of just one side of the CBM spectrum.
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Post by formersamhmd on Sept 3, 2017 20:44:14 GMT
They weren't meant to specifically replace them. Inhumans can't replace X-men because they stand for different things. I think people saw this because of Inhumans vs X-men and how Marvel was focusing on the properties they had the movie rights for. Fantastic Four wasn't do all that good in sales and the movies aren't helping so gone. X-men isn't doing all that hot, but they are still popular so they restructure. But X-men never went anywhere so there was no replacing. Marvel only tried to bring the Inhumans to the forefront. Something a company should do with all their comics. Loud X-men fans just hated that the comic that was mostly on top since the 90s wasn't anymore. Marvel's problem was having an Inhumans vs X-men event when they should have advertised the hell out of Inhumans and made a company wide event to get them in the public eye. They only place that you can say they replaced X-men with Inhumans is in the MCU itself. Specifically Agents of SHIELD. The show had an offshoot of what is in the Inhumans series (not the royal family) where they had a place where they trained Inhumans in how to use their powers. Then they put the terrigen mist in a place that people would get to it and their powers would emerge. Making it kinda random like becoming a mutant. Add to that the storyline went into being about anti-Inhuman factions that were like Friends of Humanity. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Loud X-Men fans, Is that what you MCU fanartics tell yourselves.? Loud X-Men fans earned their right to be loud. Marvel had no right to screw X-men, perhaps their only saving grace series (+ Spiderman) that everyone regardless if you liked DC, Marvel, independent, loves and respect. Am so glad movies/TV shows -Logan and Legion in particular has just confimed to everybody that X-Men is the best marvel property and should be kept away from MCU , not to mention the slap on marvel’s face. Marvel ruined their system, they have been trying to replace X-Men since forever because they are angry at Fox, they have tried every time and have failed. Neither the Inhumans or Avengers have the depth and lore of X-Men to replace x-men. And just so you need to Know, F4 was not cancelled because of low sales,it was cancelled because Fox would not give up the film rights. You might want to learn the truth of marvel's betrayal before you talk. The cheering topping on the cake is when The Gifted comes out, proving to be better than the Inhumans , the Defenders and the rest of the tv MCU show. In the movie arena, Logan and DOFP have proven better than the formulaic MCU movies. Legion has killed the rest of the MCU tv shows, Gifted will be the final nail in the coffin.I see it as Karma for all the nonsense Marvel has been doing to X-Men and their fans. I once saw Agents of Shield..and I saw these words on a chalkboard...’’inhumans why we fear them’’ Sounded a lot like X-Men. I never cared to watch again. No, X-Men fans don't have that right. In fact, overreliance on the X-Men is what caused most of Marvels' problems in the first place. It's not like Marvel needed the X-Men to begin with, they'd have been fine without them. BTW, Legion isn't better than the Netflix MCU shows. And Logan had the artificial booster from it being Jackmans' swan song. Without that, it's a mediocre movie. And yes, the Avengers can easily replace the X-Men. Their lore is easily comparable if not superior, that's why the X-Men writers try to marginalize anyone who could threaten the X-Men instead of trying to co-exist with them. Gifted will flop. Logan and DOFP weren't more than the usual mediocrity, they had artificial boosters to make them seem better than they were but that's it. I'm sorry you're such a Xenophobe.
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Post by formersamhmd on Sept 3, 2017 20:44:44 GMT
Can't we just ignore the constant DC/Marvel bickering and all agree that Inhumans looks like complete trash? it may not have looked completely trash if Marvel did not think they can use inhumans as a replacement for xmen. They weren't, they just wanted to make the show about the Inhumans. Of course, the salty X-Fans who are upset at the idea that Marvel cares about any properties that aren't the X-Men caused problems.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Sept 4, 2017 16:11:52 GMT
Mostly its a schedule type thing. The Netflix shows have more time to choreograph their action, block out their scenes, and be more attentive to camera work and design. There's no way Arrow or The Flash on The CW would ever attempt an excessively long action sequence without a single edited cut, they simply do not have the time. It helps a lot with subject matter, because The Defenders have been established as street level vigilantes who are not handling major threats on the level that The Avengers face. I think a large sum of the budget for Inhumans went to the use of IMAX and how the production was made specifically to be in that format for the first two episodes even though its a TV series. That was just the first two episodes, so who knows how they'll utilize their resources for the rest of the season. Even so, I see this series will get a new showrunner(s) and more emphasis on style will be applied as it continues, which is what they're also doing for Iron Fist's second season, coincidentally both programs were ran by Scott Buck the same man who turned Dexter from one of the best shows on TV to a laughing stock. Most fans of the show I've talked to consider Buck's run to be bad fan-fiction and not canon. Buck just seems to have bad luck with shows. With Dexter a lot of the real problems were due to the Showtime Execs stretching the show out past it's proper end point and not allowing the original showrunner to end it the way he wanted to (killing off Dexter), with Iron Fist they didn't have the budget to show Kun Lun or the cool stuff Danny did in his past, and because he didn't wear a mask they couldn't sub in a stuntman for the fights like with Daredevil (who does wear a mask). Good points all around, a lot of people are quick to pin the blame on the showrunner when its really the executives at the networks who make the big decisions that the creators have to conform to. A lot of people are always slamming Damon Lindelof for the downfall of LOST but ABC execs deserve just as if not more of the blame because they ordered more seasons and wanted them to have as many episodes as possible, so Lindelof and others had to make things up as they went along. Imagine if they had full creative control and less of a workload, show might've maintained its high quality status to the end of its run.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 11, 2017 12:57:41 GMT
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Post by DC-Fan on Sept 11, 2017 18:24:54 GMT
WOW! Inhumans is that bad?
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 11, 2017 19:01:02 GMT
WOW! Inhumans is that bad? sayz the critics. Me I skipped.
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Post by formersamhmd on Sept 11, 2017 21:18:55 GMT
The critics are all basing that off of the premiere episode shown in Imax, and a lot of negativity is coming from the salty X-Fans who are pissed that the X-Men are no longer the Belles of the Ball at Marvel and other characters are finally being treated with respect.
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