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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 3, 2017 15:28:46 GMT
If women want the perception of the world of men to change for them, they need to change it. That's all I'm saying. How would conforming to the "act appropriately like a female adult" template you have in mind change anything?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 15:58:03 GMT
I didn't say it did make you a stripper. What I'm suggesting is women need to 'grow up' and act like adults. Men too. This entire generation is full of immature adults who want to be kids forever. There is a point where self respect and dignity mean something. If women want the perception of the world of men to change for them, they need to change it. That's all I'm saying. They also need to "act like ladies" according to you too. A lady is a term I use for a grown woman showing self respect and dignity.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 20:43:54 GMT
They also need to "act like ladies" according to you too. A lady is a term I use for a grown woman showing self respect and dignity. That's rich coming from an immature lunkhead like you.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Oct 3, 2017 22:11:37 GMT
The 3rd annual slut walk took place last week. My local cal gym offers pole dancing for women as exercise. I’m sorry, I don’t mean this in a negative way but this is why America hasn’t elected a female president. Women need to be ladies. You can call it liberating or whatever you want to Dress it up as, at the end of the day it says “we are nothing more than sex objects for men” I have no doubt many men besides you think just that way. But it's a complete breakdown in logic: Some women participate in slut walks; some women pole dance; some women present themselves as sex objects for men (and how many, really?), therefore they represent all women, who must suffer from these perceptions and even Hillary Clinton can't be elected president because she's perceived as a "sex object" (??!!) and no woman will until none are perceived that way. That kind of thinking is the basis for all prejudices, which are themselves illogical: judging an entire group by traits observed (and usually disapproved of) in only some (which in many cases can be as few as two or even one). Where women are concerned, that kind of thinking is very fortunately on the wane, as the two women running in the last election garnered in excess of 4 million votes more than the man who got the job.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 3, 2017 23:11:47 GMT
That mentality is what they're fighting against, for good reason. You want to keep them in line, make them serve a narrowly prescribed social role, etc. If men had a pimp walk, it wouldn't affect them in any way. That isn't what I said. What I'm saying is all people need to act appropriate. Why is it okay for women to say "I'm a slut and I'm proud." Then if a man says "I'm a womanizer, I like to sleep around." Then women vilify the man? Uh, well, going back to your woman president thing, Trump said just that and is sitting in the White House. Can't say I remember Hilary pole dancing.
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Post by poelzig on Oct 3, 2017 23:37:48 GMT
. Can't say I remember Hilary pole dancing. Wtf?!!!! Why would you want to put that horrifying image in anyone's head?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 23:46:03 GMT
These women can do whatever they want, but being a woman myself I have no idea why any woman would be proud of being a slut. Be who you want to be, but don't demand from me to respect you for it. And if you feel powerful dancing up and down a pole, I think you have issues, but whatever.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2017 0:31:31 GMT
These womem can do whatever they want, but being a woman myself I have no idea why any woman would be proud of being a slut. Be who you want to be, but don't demand from me to respect you for it. And if you feel powerful dancing up and down a pole, I think you have issues, but whatever. Well said. And I said the same thing. I don’t care what women do, but I was just pointing out it gives the female gender a bad rep as a whole.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 4, 2017 0:41:18 GMT
. Can't say I remember Hilary pole dancing. Wtf?!!!! Why would you want to put that horrifying image in anyone's head? By the OP's logic, it was already in everyone's head and that's why we didn't elect her.
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Post by deembastille on Oct 4, 2017 1:09:10 GMT
When you wrote slut walk I thought you meant the walk women do when they wear stilettos and miniskirts.
usually, in lifetime movies they are running away from some bad dude, while desperately trying to get their beach waved hair out of their mouths and eyes.
and this is another problem I have with women today. must we all be skanks who dress like we are going clubbing when we are going to the gyno? no one cares how high up you shave your peesh! and enough of the whore shoes! I will not hold the door for you while the building is on fire, take the shit things off and SHIFT YOUR ASS! ohm that's right. you can't. you're wearing saran wrap around your hips!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2017 1:24:58 GMT
When you wrote slut walk I thought you meant the walk women do when they wear stilettos and miniskirts. usually, in lifetime movies they are running away from some bad dude, while desperately trying to get their beach waved hair out of their mouths and eyes. and this is another problem I have with women today. must we all be skanks who dress like we are going clubbing when we are going to the gyno? no one cares how high up you shave your peesh! and enough of the whore shoes! I will not hold the door for you while the building is on fire, take the shit things off and SHIFT YOUR ASS! ohm that's right. you can't. you're wearing saran wrap around your hips! This is epic!
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Post by PreachCaleb on Oct 4, 2017 20:41:38 GMT
Don't be like mello.
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Post by gljbradley on Oct 5, 2017 15:15:11 GMT
I find the Slut Walk phenomenon disgusting. It shows a mindset as to how some women have a dysfunctional viewpoint on promiscuity and celebrating it as if it's the most important thing ever over having self-respect.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 1:50:37 GMT
Who said we are dressing up for men? I mean I like dressing sexy when I go it 'cause it is empowering and when I dress sexy or do Cosplay it is for myself and my Wifey who dresses sexy for me and it is her who is undressing me at the end of the day - sure as hell not any guys, no offence.
I didn't say you were dressing up for men. You could be dressing up for women. That is fine. What I'm saying is, the 'perception' is that women in America are sex objects (by the average joe blow). There are a ton of average joes out there. So when they vote, they see women as nothing more than a sex object, not a leader. I am saying "don't you want to change the perception?" I don't because I know its not exactly possible to change someone else's perception. people will see things how they choose to see them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 2:03:24 GMT
These women can do whatever they want, but being a woman myself I have no idea why any woman would be proud of being a slut. Be who you want to be, but don't demand from me to respect you for it. And if you feel powerful dancing up and down a pole, I think you have issues, but whatever. There's not much to be ashamed for being a "slut" either, because in reality it means nothing. It's honestly just a term to degrade women and that's it. Everyone will have their own ideas of what a slut is and a lot of the times won't agree. The definition doesn't have to be exactly negative, but a lot of people seem to make it that way.. And to disrespect someone for a term that others put on them mostly anyway only shows your issues and not theirs. You can still respect someone and not agree with them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 2:06:53 GMT
When you wrote slut walk I thought you meant the walk women do when they wear stilettos and miniskirts. usually, in lifetime movies they are running away from some bad dude, while desperately trying to get their beach waved hair out of their mouths and eyes. and this is another problem I have with women today. must we all be skanks who dress like we are going clubbing when we are going to the gyno? no one cares how high up you shave your peesh! and enough of the whore shoes! I will not hold the door for you while the building is on fire, take the shit things off and SHIFT YOUR ASS! ohm that's right. you can't. you're wearing saran wrap around your hips! key phrase here is "no one cares.." just like no one cares that you don't like a certain outfit women wear. it shouldn't concern you so much
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 4:58:51 GMT
These womem can do whatever they want, but being a woman myself I have no idea why any woman would be proud of being a slut. Be who you want to be, but don't demand from me to respect you for it. And if you feel powerful dancing up and down a pole, I think you have issues, but whatever. Well said. And I said the same thing. I don’t care what women do, but I was just pointing out it gives the female gender a bad rep as a whole. And you single-handedly manage to give the entire male gender a bad rep as a whole.
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Post by hi224 on Oct 6, 2017 9:13:13 GMT
The 3rd annual slut walk took place last week. My local cal gym offers pole dancing for women as exercise. I’m sorry, I don’t mean this in a negative way but this is why America hasn’t elected a female president. Women need to be ladies. You can call it liberating or whatever you want to Dress it up as, at the end of the day it says “we are nothing more than sex objects for men” Now that may not be your intention, but average Joe Blow is going to see it that way. Until women act dignified as a whole, this perception won’t end. What if men had a Pimp Walk, and strutted in suits and canes to promote ownership and dominance as a gender? no that requires they outgrow us!.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 11:46:25 GMT
There's not much to be ashamed for being a "slut" either, because in reality it means nothing. It's honestly just a term to degrade women and that's it. Everyone will have their own ideas of what a slut is and a lot of the times won't agree. The definition doesn't have to be exactly negative, but a lot of people seem to make it that way.. And to disrespect someone for a term that others put on them mostly anyway only shows your issues and not theirs. You can still respect someone and not agree with them. Slut is a derogatory term, so you can spin it any way you want, but it's negative. The definition is being promiscuous and it boggles my mind why you would want want to emulate that. I NEVER said I don't respect people I disagree with, I said they shouldn't demand my respect for choices that *I* think are not smart and healthy. Quit with the slutwalks and do whatever you want, all right? And no, I don't think I have any issues assessing someone's character based on their behavior.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 11:50:17 GMT
When you wrote slut walk I thought you meant the walk women do when they wear stilettos and miniskirts. usually, in lifetime movies they are running away from some bad dude, while desperately trying to get their beach waved hair out of their mouths and eyes. and this is another problem I have with women today. must we all be skanks who dress like we are going clubbing when we are going to the gyno? no one cares how high up you shave your peesh! and enough of the whore shoes! I will not hold the door for you while the building is on fire, take the shit things off and SHIFT YOUR ASS! ohm that's right. you can't. you're wearing saran wrap around your hips! key phrase here is "no one cares.." just like no one cares that you don't like a certain outfit women wear. it shouldn't concern you so much Honey, if you dress like that (like a stupid Playboy bunny, for example), you want people to care. Don't complain if people don't care the way you want them to. Those are the consequences of your own behavior.
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