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Post by deembastille on Oct 6, 2017 14:56:37 GMT
I said it's not smart and healthy. Didn't your mommy teach you about STD's? you can have safe sex you know.... You mean abstinence?? |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Oct 6, 2017 14:57:37 GMT
Prevention is better than a cure? Maybe you misunderstood me. By "cure," I'm talking about getting rid of the disease altogether. Like curing polio. You'd rather prevent a disease rather than getting rid of the disease altogether? You should be a concerned citizen. Donate to research. Pressure politicians to focus more on it. Focus your comments on curing STDs. No, I didn't misunderstand you at all. Of course I support getting rid of STD's, but my main concern should be my own responsibility and precautions to prevent me from getting a STD in the first place. I can't rely on others to fix my problems for me. That's why I stay away from the edge of a cliff, instead of demanding from doctors to find a cure for death.We do have parachutes. And railings. Ropes and harnesses. There's all kinds of things science has given us to not be afraid of the cliff. But you are correct. It is your responsibility to stay away from the cliff for yourself. However, that doesn't mean it's a problem for people who've taken proper precautions and who do not fear the cliff to jump off if they feel like it. |
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Post by deembastille on Oct 6, 2017 15:00:49 GMT
No, I didn't misunderstand you at all. Of course I support getting rid of STD's, but my main concern should be my own responsibility and precautions to prevent me from getting a STD in the first place. I can't rely on others to fix my problems for me. That's why I stay away from the edge of a cliff, instead of demanding from doctors to find a cure for death.We do have parachutes. And railings. Ropes and harnesses. There's all kinds of things science has given us to not be afraid of the cliff. But you are correct. It is your responsibility to stay away from the cliff for yourself. However, that doesn't mean it's a problem for people who've taken proper precautions and who do not fear the cliff to jump off if they feel like it. Preach... Do us all a favor and jump! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 15:04:35 GMT
Slut is a derogatory term, so you can spin it any way you want, but it's negative. The definition is being promiscuous and it boggles my mind why you would want want to emulate that. I NEVER said I don't respect people I disagree with, I said they shouldn't demand my respect for choices that *I* think are not smart and healthy. Quit with the slutwalks and do whatever you want, all right? And no, I don't think I have any issues assessing someone's character based on their behavior. It's negative because men have decided women should always be pure virgins. Except when they (men) want to sleep with them. Women have been called sluts for sleeping with multiple partners. They've been called sluts for sleeping with one partner but "too soon." They've been called sluts for not wanting to sleep with someone but sleeping with someone else. They've been called sluts for just saying they enjoy sex. Men just need to get over themselves and realize it's not up to them to define another person. Men this, men that. Kind of a generalization, don't you think? A slut is a promiscuous person. If someone calls you a slut and you're not, then why would you want to own it? If you are in fact promiscuous, then my point still stands. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Oct 6, 2017 15:17:55 GMT
We do have parachutes. And railings. Ropes and harnesses. There's all kinds of things science has given us to not be afraid of the cliff. But you are correct. It is your responsibility to stay away from the cliff for yourself. However, that doesn't mean it's a problem for people who've taken proper precautions and who do not fear the cliff to jump off if they feel like it. Preach... Do us all a favor and jump! Not a problem. Like I said, look at all those safety precautions. Guess what? The jumpers have way more fun than the people sitting back and judging. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 15:18:48 GMT
No, I didn't misunderstand you at all. Of course I support getting rid of STD's, but my main concern should be my own responsibility and precautions to prevent me from getting a STD in the first place. I can't rely on others to fix my problems for me. That's why I stay away from the edge of a cliff, instead of demanding from doctors to find a cure for death.We do have parachutes. And railings. Ropes and harnesses. There's all kinds of things science has given us to not be afraid of the cliff. But you are correct. It is your responsibility to stay away from the cliff for yourself. However, that doesn't mean it's a problem for people who've taken proper precautions and who do not fear the cliff to jump off if they feel like it. Yes, and if they fall to their deaths it's a risk they took and I don't have to find them powerful because of it. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Oct 6, 2017 15:23:05 GMT
It's negative because men have decided women should always be pure virgins. Except when they (men) want to sleep with them. Women have been called sluts for sleeping with multiple partners. They've been called sluts for sleeping with one partner but "too soon." They've been called sluts for not wanting to sleep with someone but sleeping with someone else. They've been called sluts for just saying they enjoy sex. Men just need to get over themselves and realize it's not up to them to define another person. Men this, men that. Kind of a generalization, don't you think? A slut is a promiscuous person. If someone calls you a slut and you're not, then why would you want to own it? If you are in fact promiscuous, then my point still stands. A generalization? Like slut? Yeah. Men need to own up to their part in this negative labeling. As I said, a slut is anything men have decided qualifies. Non-promiscuous women have been called sluts. If someone is promiscuous, there's nothing wrong with that. There are plenty of safe sex preventative measures. Besides, what is promiscuous? A new partner ever day? Every week? Every month? Every year? Your point seems to be that promiscuity = bad. It doesn't. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Oct 6, 2017 15:25:07 GMT
We do have parachutes. And railings. Ropes and harnesses. There's all kinds of things science has given us to not be afraid of the cliff. But you are correct. It is your responsibility to stay away from the cliff for yourself. However, that doesn't mean it's a problem for people who've taken proper precautions and who do not fear the cliff to jump off if they feel like it. Yes, and if they fall to their deaths it's a risk they took and I don't have to find them powerful because of it. You're condemning them for taking the risk a risk you don't want to. Even when they land safely. That's incredibly judgmental. And pretty selfish wanting everyone to be exactly like you. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 15:31:36 GMT
Men this, men that. Kind of a generalization, don't you think? A slut is a promiscuous person. If someone calls you a slut and you're not, then why would you want to own it? If you are in fact promiscuous, then my point still stands. A generalization? Like slut? Yeah. Men need to own up to their part in this negative labeling. As I said, a slut is anything men have decided qualifies. Non-promiscuous women have been called sluts. If someone is promiscuous, there's nothing wrong with that. There are plenty of safe sex preventative measures. Besides, what is promiscuous? A new partner ever day? Every week? Every month? Every year? Your point seems to be that promiscuity = bad. It doesn't. Okay, so it is okay for YOU to generalize? What I said is that promiscuous behavior is not smart and healthy. That's my opinion. I'm not telling you you're wrong for believing otherwise. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 15:38:29 GMT
Yes, and if they fall to their deaths it's a risk they took and I don't have to find them powerful because of it. You're condemning them for taking the risk a risk you don't want to. Even when they land safely. That's incredibly judgmental. And pretty selfish wanting everyone to be exactly like you. Lord, how you exaggerate. I never condemned anybody or claimed I wanted everyone to be exactly like me. I explicitly said they can do whatever they want. I simply gave my opinion on promiscuous behavior. But golly gosh, you're pretty judgmental making all kinds of assumptions about those who don't share your beliefs. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Oct 6, 2017 15:39:28 GMT
A generalization? Like slut? Yeah. Men need to own up to their part in this negative labeling. As I said, a slut is anything men have decided qualifies. Non-promiscuous women have been called sluts. If someone is promiscuous, there's nothing wrong with that. There are plenty of safe sex preventative measures. Besides, what is promiscuous? A new partner ever day? Every week? Every month? Every year? Your point seems to be that promiscuity = bad. It doesn't. Okay, so it is okay for YOU to generalize? What I said is that promiscuous behavior is not smart and healthy. That's my opinion. I'm not telling you you're wrong for believing otherwise. Yes. Because all I'm saying is let go of negative attitudes towards women who want sex. Or who don't want sex. Essentially, just let go of negative attitudes. So yes, that's ok. When you tell people they're doing something "not smart," you are telling them they're wrong. Especially if you think your way is the "smart" way. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Oct 6, 2017 15:43:20 GMT
You're condemning them for taking the risk a risk you don't want to. Even when they land safely. That's incredibly judgmental. And pretty selfish wanting everyone to be exactly like you. Lord, how you exaggerate. I never condemned anybody or claimed I wanted everyone to be exactly like me. I explicitly said they can do whatever they want. I simply gave my opinion on promiscuous behavior. But golly gosh, you're pretty judgmental making all kinds of assumptions about those who don't share your beliefs. You're calling them dumb and and unsafe. That's quite condemning. You say they can do what they want. But you seem to think yours is the correct way. It isn't. The big difference between my judgment is I'm not condemning your choice in any way. Your choice works for you. Others' choices work for them. I am happy you're satisfied with your choice. You show no such allowance for others. |
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 6, 2017 15:46:38 GMT
Prevention is better than a cure? Maybe you misunderstood me. By "cure," I'm talking about getting rid of the disease altogether. Like curing polio. You'd rather prevent a disease rather than getting rid of the disease altogether? You should be a concerned citizen. Donate to research. Pressure politicians to focus more on it. Focus your comments on curing STDs. No, I didn't misunderstand you at all. Of course I support getting rid of STD's, but my main concern should be my own responsibility and precautions to prevent me from getting a STD in the first place. I can't rely on others to fix my problems for me. That's why I stay away from the edge of a cliff, instead of demanding from doctors to find a cure for death. "Curing death," especially from a fall off of a cliff, is a very different idea than curing a particular disease. The problem with copious amounts of promiscuous sex is the threat of STDs. So we should tackle the problem. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 15:50:27 GMT
Okay, so it is okay for YOU to generalize? What I said is that promiscuous behavior is not smart and healthy. That's my opinion. I'm not telling you you're wrong for believing otherwise. Yes. Because all I'm saying is let go of negative attitudes towards women who want sex. Or who don't want sex. Essentially, just let go of negative attitudes. So yes, that's ok. When you tell people they're doing something "not smart," you are telling them they're wrong. Especially if you think your way is the "smart" way. I have my own standards on sex and my reasons for that, I'm not going to change them to please others. If I think it's not positive for myself, why the hell should I think it's positive for someone else? I'm not telling anyone they're "wrong", just that I wouldn't make those decisions myself. You, on the other ARE telling me I'm wrong. Time to let go of that negative attitude, I'd say. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 15:53:37 GMT
No, I didn't misunderstand you at all. Of course I support getting rid of STD's, but my main concern should be my own responsibility and precautions to prevent me from getting a STD in the first place. I can't rely on others to fix my problems for me. That's why I stay away from the edge of a cliff, instead of demanding from doctors to find a cure for death. "Curing death," especially from a fall off of a cliff, is a very different idea than curing a particular disease. The problem with copious amounts of promiscuous sex is the threat of STDs. So we should tackle the problem. It's a METAPHOR. Again, my MAIN concern is what I can do myself to prevent getting a STD. And no, that's not the only problem of promiscuous sex, but it's a smart thing not to act stupid while that problem isn't solved yet. |
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 6, 2017 15:55:36 GMT
"Curing death," especially from a fall off of a cliff, is a very different idea than curing a particular disease. The problem with copious amounts of promiscuous sex is the threat of STDs. So we should tackle the problem. It's a METAPHOR. Again, my MAIN concern is what I can do myself to prevent getting a STD. And no, that's not the only problem of promiscuous sex, but it's a smart thing not to act stupid while that problem isn't solved yet. What do you see as the other problems? |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Oct 6, 2017 15:59:45 GMT
Yes. Because all I'm saying is let go of negative attitudes towards women who want sex. Or who don't want sex. Essentially, just let go of negative attitudes. So yes, that's ok. When you tell people they're doing something "not smart," you are telling them they're wrong. Especially if you think your way is the "smart" way. I have my own standards on sex and my reasons for that, I'm not going to change them to please others. If I think it's not positive for myself, why the hell should I think it's positive for someone else? I'm not telling anyone they're "wrong", just that I wouldn't make those decisions myself. You, on the other ARE telling me I'm wrong. Time to let go of that negative attitude, I'd say. Because you are not that person. You are telling them they're wrong. Unless you think it's right to do something you think is dumb? There's the misconception: I'm not saying your way is wrong. I'm saying your way is not the right way for anyone other than you. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Oct 6, 2017 16:00:48 GMT
"Curing death," especially from a fall off of a cliff, is a very different idea than curing a particular disease. The problem with copious amounts of promiscuous sex is the threat of STDs. So we should tackle the problem. It's a METAPHOR. Again, my MAIN concern is what I can do myself to prevent getting a STD. And no, that's not the only problem of promiscuous sex, but it's a smart thing not to act stupid while that problem isn't solved yet. And now you've actually gone and called people "stupid." |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 16:09:15 GMT
Lord, how you exaggerate. I never condemned anybody or claimed I wanted everyone to be exactly like me. I explicitly said they can do whatever they want. I simply gave my opinion on promiscuous behavior. But golly gosh, you're pretty judgmental making all kinds of assumptions about those who don't share your beliefs. You're calling them dumb and and unsafe. That's quite condemning. You say they can do what they want. But you seem to think yours is the correct way. It isn't. The big difference between my judgment is I'm not condemning your choice in any way. Your choice works for you. Others' choices work for them. I am happy you're satisfied with your choice. You show no such allowance for others. Condemning them would be to judge or denounce them. I didn't do that, all I did was say that the choice to have promiscuous sex is not smart and healthy and that's exactly the reason I choose not to. You seem to be condemning me, though. Don't we all think our way is the "correct" way? That's why we do it that way. But thank you for again telling me I'm wrong. I very much allow others to make the choice they want. I've stated this several times. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 16:12:10 GMT
It's a METAPHOR. Again, my MAIN concern is what I can do myself to prevent getting a STD. And no, that's not the only problem of promiscuous sex, but it's a smart thing not to act stupid while that problem isn't solved yet. What do you see as the other problems? How about unwanted pregnancy??? I also believe that promiscuous behavior is not always good for your own or other people's mental health. |
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