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Post by PreachCaleb on Oct 6, 2017 16:16:37 GMT
You're calling them dumb and and unsafe. That's quite condemning. You say they can do what they want. But you seem to think yours is the correct way. It isn't. The big difference between my judgment is I'm not condemning your choice in any way. Your choice works for you. Others' choices work for them. I am happy you're satisfied with your choice. You show no such allowance for others. Condemning them would be to judge or denounce them. I didn't do that, all I did was say that the choice to have promiscuous sex is not smart and healthy and that's exactly the reason I choose not to. You seem to be condemning me, though. Don't we all think our way is the "correct" way? That's why we do it that way. But thank you for again telling me I'm wrong. I very much allow others to make the choice they want. I've stated this several times. Actually, condemning means: "express complete disapproval of, typically in public." That's what you've done by labeling their choices "not smart" and "stupid." So you did condemn them for being promiscuous. I have not disapproved of your choice. Only your belief that you think it's the only "smart" one. As I said, I'm happy your choice works for you. No, we don't all think our way is the "correct" way. I don't think my way is any more correct than your way. It's just a different choice. So you are wrong for thinking we all think our way is the "correct" way. Of course you allow others to make their own choice. Because you have no say in the matter. But you do judge them for it. I don't judge you for yours.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 16:17:10 GMT
I have my own standards on sex and my reasons for that, I'm not going to change them to please others. If I think it's not positive for myself, why the hell should I think it's positive for someone else? I'm not telling anyone they're "wrong", just that I wouldn't make those decisions myself. You, on the other ARE telling me I'm wrong. Time to let go of that negative attitude, I'd say. Because you are not that person. You are telling them they're wrong. Unless you think it's right to do something you think is dumb? There's the misconception: I'm not saying your way is wrong. I'm saying your way is not the right way for anyone other than you. I'm not telling anyone they're wrong or that my way is the right way for them. I'm saying that I think the choice for promiscuous sex is not smart and healthy. That's why I don't make that choice or understand why anyone else would make that choice. But...THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT! You on the other hand, don't allow me to believe that the choice for promiscuous sex is not smart or healthy.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Oct 6, 2017 16:18:37 GMT
What do you see as the other problems? How about unwanted pregnancy??? I also believe that promiscuous behavior is not always good for your own or other people's mental health. Well, there is a cure for unwanted pregnancy. I am curious about how promiscuous behavior is not good for people's mental health. How would my promiscuity affect my partner's mental health? I would very much like to see the studies you've read on this.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 16:19:20 GMT
It's a METAPHOR. Again, my MAIN concern is what I can do myself to prevent getting a STD. And no, that's not the only problem of promiscuous sex, but it's a smart thing not to act stupid while that problem isn't solved yet. And now you've actually gone and called people "stupid." I didn't call anyone stupid. I'm saying people shouldn't act stupid. Or do you think that having unprotected sex with someone whose sexual history you don't know is not acting stupid?
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Post by PreachCaleb on Oct 6, 2017 16:23:00 GMT
Because you are not that person. You are telling them they're wrong. Unless you think it's right to do something you think is dumb? There's the misconception: I'm not saying your way is wrong. I'm saying your way is not the right way for anyone other than you. I'm not telling anyone they're wrong or that my way is the right way for them. I'm saying that I think the choice for promiscuous sex is not smart and healthy. That's why I don't make that choice or understand why anyone else would make that choice. But...THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT! You on the other hand, don't allow me to believe that the choice for promiscuous sex is not smart or healthy. That's telling them wrong. Especially since there are plenty of safe preventative measures. Why else would you tell someone what they're doing is wrong unless you want them to change their behavior? Is it just to air out your opinion on them? That's the very definition of judging them. If you were trying to help them, I could at least understand. What I don't allow is judging people for making choices that have no affect on you. You seem to think you can call out others on their behavior but that your own behavior shouldn't be called out. Besides, you never answered: what do you consider promiscuous?
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Post by PreachCaleb on Oct 6, 2017 16:26:11 GMT
And now you've actually gone and called people "stupid." I didn't call anyone stupid. I'm saying people shouldn't act stupid. Or do you think that having unprotected sex with someone whose sexual history you don't know is not acting stupid? So someone engaging in something you think is stupid is not stupid? So then what are they? You seem to be under the misconception that promiscuity equals unprotected. It doesn't. You can be promiscuous and be protected. And who says it's with someone whose sexual history I don't know? I could be promiscuous with ten people who I've known all my life and know their sexual histories. So I'm still promiscuous, but I'm protected and I know the histories of my partners. Am I still acting stupid?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 16:44:21 GMT
Condemning them would be to judge or denounce them. I didn't do that, all I did was say that the choice to have promiscuous sex is not smart and healthy and that's exactly the reason I choose not to. You seem to be condemning me, though. Don't we all think our way is the "correct" way? That's why we do it that way. But thank you for again telling me I'm wrong. I very much allow others to make the choice they want. I've stated this several times. Actually, condemning means: "express complete disapproval of, typically in public." That's what you've done by labeling their choices "not smart" and "stupid." So you did condemn them for being promiscuous. I have not disapproved of your choice. Only your belief that you think it's the only "smart" one. As I said, I'm happy your choice works for you. No, we don't all think our way is the "correct" way. I don't think my way is any more correct than your way. It's just a different choice. So you are wrong for thinking we all think our way is the "correct" way. Of course you allow others to make their own choice. Because you have no say in the matter. But you do judge them for it. I don't judge you for yours. No, condemnation is a much stronger concept. It's declaring something to be morally wrong, not just publicly disagreeing with someone. I didn't say it was wrong or evil. And don't ignore the context. I said that if they want my support for their choice, I can't give it because *I* think it's not a smart or healthy choice. I never said my way is the "only smart one". But you obviously believe that believing all choices are smart is the only correct way. You're the one judging me for believing that the choice to be promiscuous is not smart and healthy. Show some allowance yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 16:53:11 GMT
How about unwanted pregnancy??? I also believe that promiscuous behavior is not always good for your own or other people's mental health. Well, there is a cure for unwanted pregnancy. I am curious about how promiscuous behavior is not good for people's mental health. How would my promiscuity affect my partner's mental health? I would very much like to see the studies you've read on this. I'm definitely not anti-abortion, but I don't think it's something to be so casual about. And to see it as a cure??? There are many psychological studies on the relation between promiscuity and mental health, just look it up. But I don't think it matters much WHY I think it's unhealthy, just like my personal definition of promiscuity.
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Post by deembastille on Oct 6, 2017 16:55:16 GMT
Stratego. I think it is time to ignore the proud slags.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 17:00:38 GMT
I'm not telling anyone they're wrong or that my way is the right way for them. I'm saying that I think the choice for promiscuous sex is not smart and healthy. That's why I don't make that choice or understand why anyone else would make that choice. But...THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT! You on the other hand, don't allow me to believe that the choice for promiscuous sex is not smart or healthy. That's telling them wrong. Especially since there are plenty of safe preventative measures. Why else would you tell someone what they're doing is wrong unless you want them to change their behavior? Is it just to air out your opinion on them? That's the very definition of judging them. If you were trying to help them, I could at least understand. What I don't allow is judging people for making choices that have no affect on you. You seem to think you can call out others on their behavior but that your own behavior shouldn't be called out. Besides, you never answered: what do you consider promiscuous? I didn't tell anyone they were wrong. I gave my opinion in response to a post about an event called Slut Walk. I don't walk up to promiscuous people to tell them I don't agree with their behavior. You're calling me out on behavior I'm not even displaying. And you're not in any position to "allow" anything either. If you get triggered by what I say, you can always put me on ignore.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 17:08:55 GMT
I didn't call anyone stupid. I'm saying people shouldn't act stupid. Or do you think that having unprotected sex with someone whose sexual history you don't know is not acting stupid? So someone engaging in something you think is stupid is not stupid? So then what are they? You seem to be under the misconception that promiscuity equals unprotected. It doesn't. You can be promiscuous and be protected. And who says it's with someone whose sexual history I don't know? I could be promiscuous with ten people who I've known all my life and know their sexual histories. So I'm still promiscuous, but I'm protected and I know the histories of my partners. Am I still acting stupid? You can make stupid choices without being stupid. And I don't at all equal promiscuity with unprotected sex. I guess that's what you get when you respond to a post not directed at you. The other poster suggested that curing STD's should be my main concern. Well, I think that's nonsense (Ooh, am I allowed to think that?). My main concern should be protecting myself against STD's.
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Post by deembastille on Oct 6, 2017 17:52:47 GMT
There is no such thing as knowing your partner's histories because people lie. Or they could have been lied to. Why are you so okay with behaving stupidity and irresponsibly? Why do you insist on not only doing what you do but trying to get us to like it?
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 6, 2017 18:01:39 GMT
What do you see as the other problems? How about unwanted pregnancy??? I also believe that promiscuous behavior is not always good for your own or other people's mental health. Unwanted pregnancy is relatively easy to avoid with birth control (and good birth control education). Plus there are abortions, too. I couldn't disagree with you more on the other point. I think a far more promiscuous culture would be better for everyone.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 18:29:47 GMT
How about unwanted pregnancy??? I also believe that promiscuous behavior is not always good for your own or other people's mental health. Unwanted pregnancy is relatively easy to avoid with birth control (and good birth control education). Plus there are abortions, too. I couldn't disagree with you more on the other point. I think a far more promiscuous culture would be better for everyone. Because birth control is 100% effective? I love how casual you guys are about abortion. Just give in to every carnal pleasure and if it leads to unwanted results, just go through a medical procedure that could possibly end your life. Promiscuity makes the world a better place??? All riiighty...
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Post by deembastille on Oct 6, 2017 18:37:59 GMT
Unwanted pregnancy is relatively easy to avoid with birth control (and good birth control education). Plus there are abortions, too. I couldn't disagree with you more on the other point. I think a far more promiscuous culture would be better for everyone. Because birth control is 100% effective? I love how casual you guys are about abortion. Just give in to every carnal pleasure and if it leads to unwanted results, just go through a medical procedure that could possibly end your life. Promiscuity makes the world a better place??? All riiighty... Stratego... They mean knitting needles. Although I (for myself) am pro life) I am pro choice for the world. I disagree with these droves of people who fart out kid after kid after kid when they are only doing it for government money. They have no parental instincts, no desire to be a GOOD parent, no desire to leave their pre-parenthood lifestyle behind. The kids are the ones who suffer and they had no say in the matter. That being said, I don't think people should be able to have abortion after abortion like they are getting another dental implant. T.A.K.E. R.E.S.P.O.N.S.I.B.I.L.I.T.Y.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 19:11:23 GMT
Because birth control is 100% effective? I love how casual you guys are about abortion. Just give in to every carnal pleasure and if it leads to unwanted results, just go through a medical procedure that could possibly end your life. Promiscuity makes the world a better place??? All riiighty... Stratego... They mean knitting needles. Although I (for myself) am pro life) I am poor choice for the world. I disagree with these droves of people who fart out kid after kid after kid when they are only doing it for government money. They have no parental instincts, no desire to be a GOOD parent, no desire to leave their pre-parenthood lifestyle behind. The kids are the ones who suffer and they had no say in the matter. That being said, I don't think people should be able to have abortion after abortion like they are getting another dental implant. T.A.K.E. R.E.S.P.O.N.S.I.B.I.L.I.T.Y. I'm pro-choice for the exact same reasons as you. But it's not something to take lightly.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 19:31:52 GMT
It's negative because men have decided women should always be pure virgins. Except when they (men) want to sleep with them. Women have been called sluts for sleeping with multiple partners. They've been called sluts for sleeping with one partner but "too soon." They've been called sluts for not wanting to sleep with someone but sleeping with someone else. They've been called sluts for just saying they enjoy sex. Men just need to get over themselves and realize it's not up to them to define another person. Men this, men that. Kind of a generalization, don't you think? A slut is a promiscuous person. If someone calls you a slut and you're not, then why would you want to own it? If you are in fact promiscuous, then my point still stands. I would only disagree with her by saying only men call women sluts because that is obviously not true. I can really say girls use the term on other girls more than guys do. But its only to degrade them and nothing else. Having sex doesn't make a woman a slut really.. women are only called sluts by people who don't like them and try to bring them down by saying it. its all that it is. Women have been called sluts even when they never had sex before. Sex really has nothing to do with being a "slut" in reality. And I have no idea about owning up to it but I would think its because it letting people know that the word doesn't affect them (and it shouldn't)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 19:49:36 GMT
Wow. I can't believe you're blaming the victim for being sexually assaulted. You are no longer a victim if you CHOOSE to dress that way after it happens the first time. Fool me once and all that stuff. Take responsibility for your actions. True.. but they are still victims of sexual assault. it doesn't matter whether to not they tried to prevent it from happening. Its like saying a person leaves there car door unlocked and the thief that broke in blamed it on the victim for leaving it unlocked... which is true that they should have locked it to prevent it...but still what the thief did is still a crime and doesn't justify their behavior.. so they're the ones who really need to take accountability for their actions. And the woman's outfit is a stupid excuse. If it's not her outfit then it would just be something else to blame it on.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 19:55:30 GMT
Men this, men that. Kind of a generalization, don't you think? A slut is a promiscuous person. If someone calls you a slut and you're not, then why would you want to own it? If you are in fact promiscuous, then my point still stands. I would only disagree with her by saying only men call women sluts because that is obviously not true. I can really say girls use the term on other girls more than guys do. But its only to degrade them and nothing else. Having sex doesn't make a woman a slut really.. women are only called sluts by people who don't like them and try to bring them down by saying it. its all that it is. Women have been called sluts even when they never had sex before. Sex really has nothing to do with being a "slut" in reality. And I have no idea about owning up to it but I would think its because it letting people know that the word doesn't affect them (and it shouldn't) A slut refers to a promiscuous woman, I can't help it if people use it differently. I would not use the word myself, but I can't say I agree with women or men who are promiscuous. An event celebrating promiscuous behavior won't get my support. But like I said, be a slut, for all I care.
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Post by deembastille on Oct 6, 2017 20:06:53 GMT
You are no longer a victim if you CHOOSE to dress that way after it happens the first time. Fool me once and all that stuff. Take responsibility for your actions. And the woman's outfit is a stupid excuse. If it's not her outfit then it would just be something else to blame it on. Not as stupid as the woman in the outfit.
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