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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 23:25:39 GMT
I think it's EASILY the WORST movie in the MCU. None of the jokes landed. It had zero stakes. People in my theater were snoring. I think it STUNK.
I like every other MCU movie EXCEPT for Ant-Man. It was one of the most BORING movies I've ever seen, and I think people who thought it was funny are just FOOLING themselves. Either that or they're too easily amused (like little kids).
It's cool if you liked it. I just thought it SUCKED.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 15, 2017 23:30:58 GMT
I thought it was alright. For me Thor the Dark World is the worst.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 23:49:00 GMT
I have conflicted feelings about it. On the one hand, I do like the character and the casting of Rudd. He was my favorite part of Civil War. The action scenes are also mostly well done- and I think the final battle on the toy train was rather clever.
But... The directing is very stale outside the action scenes. The cinematography is boxy, boring and ugly. The color grading is inconsistent and often nauseatingly hideous. And the humor is very hit and miss. Most of it was forced and generic, especially when involving Tip Harris and the Russian crony. And the story was extremely by the numbers and took no real risks.
All and all: it was just fine... Not bad, not great.
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Post by scabab on Oct 15, 2017 23:49:45 GMT
See you're doing it again. The thread was made about Ant-man and by the second post the thread became no longer anything about Ant-man and is just arguing.
Yeah ok, the "like little kids" comment was baity but if Dennis doesn't like Ant-man then he doesn't have too.
So again, the thread will stay so people can share their opinion. The completely irrelevant arguing will not stay.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 23:50:50 GMT
See you're doing it again. The thread was made about Ant-man and by the second post the thread became no longer anything about Ant-man and is just arguing. Yeah ok, the "like little kids" comment was baity but if Dennis doesn't like Ant-man then he doesn't have too. So again, the thread will stay so people can share their opinion. The completely irrelevant arguing will not stay. Thanks Scab. I'm starting to warm up to you!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 23:53:38 GMT
I have conflicted feelings about it. On the one hand, I do like the character and the casting of Rudd. He was my favorite part of Civil War. The action scenes are also mostly well done- and I think the final battle on the toy train was rather clever. But... The directing is very stale outside the action scenes. The cinematography is boxy, boring and ugly. The color grading is inconsistent and often nauseatingly hideous. And the humor is very hit and miss. Most of it was forced and generic, especially when involving Tip Harris and the Russian crony. And the story was extremely by the numbers and took no real risks. All and all: it was just fine... Not bad, not great. I liked Ant-Man in CW waaay more than I liked him in his own boring movie.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 23:56:56 GMT
I have conflicted feelings about it. On the one hand, I do like the character and the casting of Rudd. He was my favorite part of Civil War. The action scenes are also mostly well done- and I think the final battle on the toy train was rather clever. But... The directing is very stale outside the action scenes. The cinematography is boxy, boring and ugly. The color grading is inconsistent and often nauseatingly hideous. And the humor is very hit and miss. Most of it was forced and generic, especially when involving Tip Harris and the Russian crony. And the story was extremely by the numbers and took no real risks. All and all: it was just fine... Not bad, not great. Making a film about Ant-Man in and of itself was a huge risk. The character is a hard sell.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 23:58:08 GMT
I have conflicted feelings about it. On the one hand, I do like the character and the casting of Rudd. He was my favorite part of Civil War. The action scenes are also mostly well done- and I think the final battle on the toy train was rather clever. But... The directing is very stale outside the action scenes. The cinematography is boxy, boring and ugly. The color grading is inconsistent and often nauseatingly hideous. And the humor is very hit and miss. Most of it was forced and generic, especially when involving Tip Harris and the Russian crony. And the story was extremely by the numbers and took no real risks. All and all: it was just fine... Not bad, not great. I liked Ant-Man in CW waaay more than I liked him in his own boring movie. So did I. I think the character deserved better than the mediocre director/writing team that he got. Adam McKay should NOT be allowed to write a superhero movie. All of Ant Man's clever ideas came from Edgar Wright.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 23:59:29 GMT
I liked Ant-Man in CW waaay more than I liked him in his own boring movie. So did I. I think the character deserved better than the mediocre director/writing team that he got. Adam McKay should NOT be allowed to write a superhero movie. All of Ant Man's clever ideas came from Edgar Wright. Yeah. It's too bad that Marvel tried to force their cookie-cutter formula on him. He could have done something really risky and unique.
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Post by scabab on Oct 15, 2017 23:59:37 GMT
I thought Ant-man was decent enough. Probably one of the weaker ones perhaps, I wasn't fond of the villain at all but I liked Ant-man himself.
He doesn't really have the most interesting powers is particularly the problem perhaps. He can shrink and talk to ants...it kinda pales to the Asgardian God of Thunder who lives in another realm or a Sorcerer who can manipulate time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 23:59:51 GMT
I have conflicted feelings about it. On the one hand, I do like the character and the casting of Rudd. He was my favorite part of Civil War. The action scenes are also mostly well done- and I think the final battle on the toy train was rather clever. But... The directing is very stale outside the action scenes. The cinematography is boxy, boring and ugly. The color grading is inconsistent and often nauseatingly hideous. And the humor is very hit and miss. Most of it was forced and generic, especially when involving Tip Harris and the Russian crony. And the story was extremely by the numbers and took no real risks. All and all: it was just fine... Not bad, not great. Making a film about Ant-Man in and of itself was a huge risk. The character is a hard sell. True. But I think the character really shines and could be the star of a truly great movie. His action scenes look great on screen. He just needs a higher quality screenplay. Marvel has really sold me on the character, but I still find his initial outing lackluster. Hope they do better in the sequel.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 0:01:23 GMT
Making a film about Ant-Man in and of itself was a huge risk. The character is a hard sell. True. But I think the character really shines and could be the star of a truly great movie. His action scenes look great on screen. He just needs a higher quality screenplay. Marvel has really sold me on the character, but I still find his initial outing lackluster. Hope they do better in the sequel. Most of their sequels have been improvements. I find his initial outing exactly what I was hoping it would be.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Oct 16, 2017 0:03:24 GMT
I don't really care much for it now, but the first time I saw it, I had a blast watching it and I thought the comedy worked better than the likes of AoU. I agree there really wasn't much stakes to it, but I gotta give them credit where its due, they embraced the character and everything about him, as silly as he is in the comics. It could have easily gone the Man of Steel route and try to ground it as much as possible, but he's called Ant-Man and shrink himself down, so it would just seem pretentious on their part to try and make it. It wasn't afraid of its source material.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 0:12:31 GMT
True. But I think the character really shines and could be the star of a truly great movie. His action scenes look great on screen. He just needs a higher quality screenplay. Marvel has really sold me on the character, but I still find his initial outing lackluster. Hope they do better in the sequel. Most of their sequels have been improvements. I find his initial outing exactly what I was hoping it would be. I do like the initial outing, but I think the character can be so much more. I'd love to see an Ant Man movie embrace a more B movie sci fi feel with a tone that's quirkier and weirder than what we got with more offbeat humor and less mainstream humor. This is just my specific vision for what the character should be though. And if Marvel did what I suggest the movies would almost certainly have less appeal and make less money... But IMO they'd be more memorable.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 0:16:12 GMT
So did I. I think the character deserved better than the mediocre director/writing team that he got. Adam McKay should NOT be allowed to write a superhero movie. All of Ant Man's clever ideas came from Edgar Wright. Yeah. It's too bad that Marvel tried to force their cookie-cutter formula on him. He could have done something really risky and unique. My problem with Ant Man is the same problem I have with Doctor Strange: While they did embrace all of the comic book goofiness and mythos, they also tried to give both characters as much mass appeal as possible. So we got comic accurate movies, but we didn't get movies with a distinct identity. The material is only unique by default while the actual adaptations, in tone and style, were rather mainstream and generic.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 0:28:34 GMT
Most of their sequels have been improvements. I find his initial outing exactly what I was hoping it would be. I do like the initial outing, but I think the character can be so much more. I'd love to see an Ant Man movie embrace a more B movie sci fi feel with a tone that's quirkier and weirder than what we got with more offbeat humor and less mainstream humor. This is just my specific vision for what the character should be though. And if Marvel did what I suggest the movies would almost certainly have less appeal and make less money... But IMO they'd be more memorable. Marvel was trying to get people comfortable with the character. They're not in the business of losing money, you know. These are popcorn flicks. Mass appeal is a big part of the point. They'll stretch out and go to town in the sequels now that they know the character works. They're playing this the smart way.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 0:30:25 GMT
See you're doing it again. The thread was made about Ant-man and by the second post the thread became no longer anything about Ant-man and is just arguing. Yeah ok, the "like little kids" comment was baity but if Dennis doesn't like Ant-man then he doesn't have too. So again, the thread will stay so people can share their opinion. The completely irrelevant arguing will not stay. Are you Mod on this board and then Iron Panther is Mod on the DC board?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 0:41:41 GMT
I do like the initial outing, but I think the character can be so much more. I'd love to see an Ant Man movie embrace a more B movie sci fi feel with a tone that's quirkier and weirder than what we got with more offbeat humor and less mainstream humor. This is just my specific vision for what the character should be though. And if Marvel did what I suggest the movies would almost certainly have less appeal and make less money... But IMO they'd be more memorable. Marvel was trying to get people comfortable with the character. They're not in the business of losing money, you know. These are popcorn flicks. Mass appeal is a big part of the point. They'll stretch out and go to town in the sequels now that they know the character works. They're playing this the smart way. I know. I just would sometimes rather have niche cult classics than mainstream style hits... But, I think you can have it both ways. Look at The Winter Soldier- It embraces everything great about Cap's mythos/character, has its own distinct creative identity, delivers a movie that's memorable and high quality, ...and is also a big hit. But I understand that they could only do that (and succeed financially) once Cap was established as a household name (after Avengers) So maybe Ant Man and the Wasp will be everything that I hope... My concern though is that Peyton Reed is still the wrong director for the project.
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Post by scabab on Oct 16, 2017 0:44:17 GMT
See you're doing it again. The thread was made about Ant-man and by the second post the thread became no longer anything about Ant-man and is just arguing. Yeah ok, the "like little kids" comment was baity but if Dennis doesn't like Ant-man then he doesn't have too. So again, the thread will stay so people can share their opinion. The completely irrelevant arguing will not stay. Are you Mod on this board and then Iron Panther is Mod on the DC board? We are both mods on the Marvel, DC and X-men boards.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 0:45:28 GMT
Marvel was trying to get people comfortable with the character. They're not in the business of losing money, you know. These are popcorn flicks. Mass appeal is a big part of the point. They'll stretch out and go to town in the sequels now that they know the character works. They're playing this the smart way. I know. I just would sometimes rather have niche cult classics than mainstream style hits... But, I think you can have it both ways. Look at The Winter Soldier- It embraces everything great about Cap's mythos/character, has its own distinct creative identity, delivers a movie that's memorable and high quality, ...and is also a big hit. But I understand that they could only do that (and succeed financially) once Cap was established as a household name (after Avengers) So maybe Ant Man and the Wasp will be everything that I hope... My concern though is that Peyton Reed is still the wrong director for the project. Exactly. While they MCU had a somewhat rocky start when it came to sequels (Ironman 2 and Thor: The Dark World), I think they're really starting to figure out how to make this insane thing they've built work.
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