Deleted
Deleted Member
@Deleted
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 19:53:22 GMT
The MCU should enjoy it whilst it lasts. The DCEU may be sick, but Thor is no Batman. Batman is just one film away from restoring his crown, no matter when it happens. MCU may win this battle, but it won’t win the war. It already won the war. It will actually complete its first big story, which was a decade in the making by the way, long before the DCEU gets it together enough to pull anything even a fraction as impressive off. The MCU will be the first movie franchise of its kind now and forever, and it beat DC to the punch in every way. The war was over the instant Green Lantern failed. |
|
|
|
Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 1, 2017 20:05:20 GMT
The MCU should enjoy it whilst it lasts. The DCEU may be sick, but Thor is no Batman. Batman is just one film away from restoring his crown, no matter when it happens. MCU may win this battle, but it won’t win the war. It already won the war. It will actually complete its first big story, which was a decade in the making by the way, long before the DCEU gets it together enough to pull anything even a fraction as impressive off. The MCU will be the first movie franchise of its kind now and forever, and it beat DC to the punch in every way. The war was over the instant Green Lantern failed. Really Raptor, I wish you wouldn't so compative with P. He's a friend to the MCU - in his own way. @pistachio, I'm wondering when we might circle back to our chat on "blackness" and "rap" music? When you have a moment of course. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
@Deleted
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 20:08:26 GMT
It already won the war. It will actually complete its first big story, which was a decade in the making by the way, long before the DCEU gets it together enough to pull anything even a fraction as impressive off. The MCU will be the first movie franchise of its kind now and forever, and it beat DC to the punch in every way. The war was over the instant Green Lantern failed. Really Raptor, I wish you wouldn't so compative with P. He's a friend to the MCU - in his own way. @pistachio , I'm wondering when we might circle back to our chat on "blackness" and "rap" music? When you have a moment of course. He's a DC fan who can't stand the thought of fun movies that are aware they're summertime popcorn block busters. He is no friend of the MCU, in any way. |
|
|
|
Post by formersamhmd on Nov 1, 2017 23:49:47 GMT
Really Raptor, I wish you wouldn't so compative with P. He's a friend to the MCU - in his own way. @pistachio , I'm wondering when we might circle back to our chat on "blackness" and "rap" music? When you have a moment of course. He's a DC fan who can't stand the thought of fun movies that are aware they're summertime popcorn block busters. He is no friend of the MCU, in any way. He liked Ragnarok though. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
@Deleted
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 23:51:49 GMT
He's a DC fan who can't stand the thought of fun movies that are aware they're summertime popcorn block busters. He is no friend of the MCU, in any way. He liked Ragnarok though. And he keeps talking shit about the series as if its existence offends him. And this after promising to "tone it down." Then again, he did defend those who insult MCU fans, saying they were "just critical." |
|
|
|
Post by Skaathar on Nov 1, 2017 23:58:53 GMT
Eh, Batman's only advantage is that he's just had movies made longer and he's easy to write. Plus, to make up for him being somewhat boring, he was given colorful enemies. That way the stories can be more about his villains than him. Whoaaaaaaaaa horsies! Whoa! Ah say whoa now! Batman is boring?! I can say with complete arrogant comfort that the ENTIRE PLANET disagrees with you on this one.
He is BY FAR the single most popular super hero of them all. Superman and Spiderman jockey from time to time for 2nd place, but EVERY list I've ever seen has ranked bats as first.
Now hear me clearly... I didn't say best. I didn't say perfect. I didn't say he shits gold that smells like roses. But one cannot argue that he is the most popular. I wonder, how do you think that something that's boring becomes the WORLDS most popular anything? Is it that WE're all crazy? Or...
I do kinda see why he might have thought of Batman as boring. Batman's stories themselves aren't boring. But the concept behind the character is a bit boring. Superman and Batman are both archetypes. They're not so much characters as they are templates of characters. Superman is the template for the typical boyscout superhero. Spiderman, Thor, Flash, Green Lantern are some examples of characters that are derived from this template. Batman is the template for the typical vigilante hero. Green Arrow, Punisher, Wolverine and Daredevil are examples of characters derived from this template. Superman and Batman on paper actually have very little personality. It's up to the writer to give them interesting stories, but their basic characteristics and descriptions are actually boring and pretty basic. Hope this makes some kind of sense. Basically what I'm saying is that Batman's stories are exciting, but the description of the character itself isn't really exciting, not anymore anyway. |
|
|
|
Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 2, 2017 14:26:19 GMT
Whoaaaaaaaaa horsies! Whoa! Ah say whoa now! Batman is boring?! I can say with complete arrogant comfort that the ENTIRE PLANET disagrees with you on this one.
He is BY FAR the single most popular super hero of them all. Superman and Spiderman jockey from time to time for 2nd place, but EVERY list I've ever seen has ranked bats as first.
Now hear me clearly... I didn't say best. I didn't say perfect. I didn't say he shits gold that smells like roses. But one cannot argue that he is the most popular. I wonder, how do you think that something that's boring becomes the WORLDS most popular anything? Is it that WE're all crazy? Or...
I do kinda see why he might have thought of Batman as boring. Batman's stories themselves aren't boring. But the concept behind the character is a bit boring. Superman and Batman are both archetypes. They're not so much characters as they are templates of characters. Superman is the template for the typical boyscout superhero. Spiderman, Thor, Flash, Green Lantern are some examples of characters that are derived from this template. Batman is the template for the typical vigilante hero. Green Arrow, Punisher, Wolverine and Daredevil are examples of characters derived from this template. Superman and Batman on paper actually have very little personality. It's up to the writer to give them interesting stories, but their basic characteristics and descriptions are actually boring and pretty basic. Hope this makes some kind of sense. Basically what I'm saying is that Batman's stories are exciting, but the description of the character itself isn't really exciting, not anymore anyway. Well, let me re-frame this conversation then... What you guys describe as boring, I describe as classic. You're absolutely right that Superman is the template for pretty much IMO all super heroes (its right in the name - SUPER) and that Batman is the template for all vigilante street level type super heroes.
But that they've lasted so long and that new material can still be mined from their stories to me says that the template is still primal, still meaningful. If it was boring it wouldnt be.
Its like Coca-Cola. Do you think Coca-Cola will ever stop being served as a drink? No. It might be boring because we already know what it is, but its primal and we want it.
When I was a little kid I thought Superman was corny. Why? Because I perceived him as being from a time before me. But I couldn't quite get into Spiderman either for some reason. Something was missing. Then Wolverine came along! That was my guy as a kid.
But as I got older and my tastes mature I realized, all of that was academic. The PRIMAL super heroes are Superman- the grand daddy of them all, Batman- the dark grand daddy of them all, and Wonder Woman- the grand momma of them all. ALL super heroes, even Marvel's, can be traced back to those three. The very idea of a super powered person who wears a gaudy costume is traced back to Superman.
Sure Zorro, The Shadow, and a few others existed before, but Superman was the first who put it all together in quite that way. None of the others were SUPER heroes. And sure Shazam!'s Captain Marvel was actually the number 1 guy in the 40's, but he was a Superman knock off.
Bottom line: Its all about Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. If they were boring they'd be peripherally known, like Zorro, The Shadow, The Phantom, Doc Savage, etc. Characters who cant hold a comic for longer than a few months nowadays.
|
|
|
|
Post by Skaathar on Nov 2, 2017 18:15:40 GMT
I do kinda see why he might have thought of Batman as boring. Batman's stories themselves aren't boring. But the concept behind the character is a bit boring. Superman and Batman are both archetypes. They're not so much characters as they are templates of characters. Superman is the template for the typical boyscout superhero. Spiderman, Thor, Flash, Green Lantern are some examples of characters that are derived from this template. Batman is the template for the typical vigilante hero. Green Arrow, Punisher, Wolverine and Daredevil are examples of characters derived from this template. Superman and Batman on paper actually have very little personality. It's up to the writer to give them interesting stories, but their basic characteristics and descriptions are actually boring and pretty basic. Hope this makes some kind of sense. Basically what I'm saying is that Batman's stories are exciting, but the description of the character itself isn't really exciting, not anymore anyway. Well, let me re-frame this conversation then... What you guys describe as boring, I describe as classic. You're absolutely right that Superman is the template for pretty much IMO all super heroes (its right in the name - SUPER) and that Batman is the template for all vigilante street level type super heroes.
But that they've lasted so long and that new material can still be mined from their stories to me says that the template is still primal, still meaningful. If it was boring it wouldnt be.
Its like Coca-Cola. Do you think Coca-Cola will ever stop being served as a drink? No. It might be boring because we already know what it is, but its primal and we want it.
When I was a little kid I thought Superman was corny. Why? Because I perceived him as being from a time before me. But I couldn't quite get into Spiderman either for some reason. Something was missing. Then Wolverine came along! That was my guy as a kid.
But as I got older and my tastes mature I realized, all of that was academic. The PRIMAL super heroes are Superman- the grand daddy of them all, Batman- the dark grand daddy of them all, and Wonder Woman- the grand momma of them all. ALL super heroes, even Marvel's, can be traced back to those three. The very idea of a super powered person who wears a gaudy costume is traced back to Superman.
Sure Zorro, The Shadow, and a few others existed before, but Superman was the first who put it all together in quite that way. None of the others were SUPER heroes. And sure Shazam!'s Captain Marvel was actually the number 1 guy in the 40's, but he was a Superman knock off.
Bottom line: Its all about Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. If they were boring they'd be peripherally known, like Zorro, The Shadow, The Phantom, Doc Savage, etc. Characters who cant hold a comic for longer than a few months nowadays.
Superman and Batman survived for decades and were much loved during that time, there's no question about that. Still, if you look at the current trend, it seems the general populace is getting tired of them as characters. Not necessarily their stories, but it seems to me that writers are going further and further away from the basic mold of Superman and Batman just to keep the general populace interested in them. When I say general populace, I mean the non-comicbook reading populace. Take for example Superman. When was the last time people were interested in him depicted as he usually is? Smallville was a hit mostly because they stripped down Superman to a coming of age story mixed with teen drama. So like I said, the writing made him interesting, but his character had to be changed. MOS Superman is also pretty different from his usual stereotype. Same thing happened with Batman. Nolan came around and stripped down Batman to a more fallible person. Not quite the martial artist. Not quite the detective. Not quite the inventor, etc. So that's my point, writing can make them interesting. But just basing on their characteristics, because they're archetypes, they're not that interesting compared to the newer superheroes. It also doesn't help that they're both too overpowered. Makes it harder to make them interesting. |
|
|
|
Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 2, 2017 19:58:12 GMT
The MCU should enjoy it whilst it lasts. The DCEU may be sick, but Thor is no Batman. Batman is just one film away from restoring his crown, no matter when it happens. MCU may win this battle, but it won’t win the war. It already won the war. It will actually complete its first big story, which was a decade in the making by the way, long before the DCEU gets it together enough to pull anything even a fraction as impressive off. The MCU will be the first movie franchise of its kind now and forever, and it beat DC to the punch in every way. The war was over the instant Green Lantern failed. WHOA! Now you're going to include NON DCEU movies?! Well in that case... The "WAR" was won before the MCU even came into existence!
Green Lantern is not part of the DCEU as it was not the beginning of a shared universe. That Distinction belongs to MOS as you well know. But since you opened the can of worms, LETS compare Marvel pre-MCU to DC pre-DCEU...
Superman the Movie blew that shit up! Superman 2 blew that shit up! Batman blew that shit up! Batman Returns blew that shit up! Batman Begins blew that shit up! The Dark Knight blew that shit up!
If you're going PRE shared universes DC stomps Marvel.
But lets look at the first four films of both shared universes (4 since DCEU is only 4 films in so far). Numbers in millions...
1st four films comparison U.S. Opening U.S. total World total
Man of Steel 116 291 668
Batman V Superman 166 330 873
Suicide Squad 133 325 745
Wonder Woman 103 409 820
Iron Man 102 318 585
Incredible Hulk 55 134 263
Thor 65 181 449
Captain America 65 176 370
Its doesnt look like you're winning a war when you look at it like that, does it?
|
|
|
|
Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 2, 2017 20:16:53 GMT
It already won the war. It will actually complete its first big story, which was a decade in the making by the way, long before the DCEU gets it together enough to pull anything even a fraction as impressive off. The MCU will be the first movie franchise of its kind now and forever, and it beat DC to the punch in every way. The war was over the instant Green Lantern failed. WHOA!
Its doesnt look like you're winning a war when you look at it like that, does it?
WOAH,WOAH, stop the press lenlenlen- you neglect to mention what else speaks for DCEU: - DCEU after only 3 (three!) movies has already been awarded an Oscar. And is currently discussed to become nominated as first CBM for best film/director this very year. MCU after 17+ movies has NADA (that's: zero, null), not even talk. - DCEU after only 4 movies has already several iconic musical themes, such as the WW e-chello one everybody associates the franchise with and will recognize when played on the street. MCU after 16+ has nothing of the sort. - DCEU has nothing that is a 0%-10% critical rating failure (like some of their TV shows) paired with the lowest viewer ratings ever, i.e,. an abominable pattern (!) of super flops and media embarrassments. DC has very successful shows, but smartly outsourced them to accommodate its more creative, varied, less formulaic output, thereby being able to create different versions of its heroes,. - Milestones: DCEU has the first super-successful female-led CMB (direction and title lead) after a history of discrimination (under MCU too, just ask Patty Jenkins) – and has created an unprecedented media sensation everybody even ppl who never have seen a CBM are aware of. Uh, comparatively, MCU after 17+ still prefers to dabble in raccoon turd and choses to re-rehash spider poo-poo heads for Sony, and only now tries to copy DCEU's approach after DC cleared the way; - DCEU is the first franchise with two black leads (female and male in SS) and a female antagonist in one movie (SS); MCU after 17+ movies is announcing a black male lead after DC successfully did it, deplorable! - The 4 DCEU films were all very successful commercially. They made more money than the first 4 MCU films in 2009-2012 (money making is the only thing MCU is really good at...); this despite the fact that MCU is big in overseas and relentlessly milking the super-lucrative children market with it's formulaic movies - and thus should always have a natural commercial advantage over DC! - Talk about bad continuity in MCU (rainbow bridge, 10 years debacle etc). Yet you do not need the movies for that: MCU is not even able to get it's own name right, the term "Cinematic" does not entail crummy TV shows and unsellable comics - even though everybody will understand that MCU wants people to forget about that stinker TV shows it produces... |
|
|
|
Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 2, 2017 20:22:24 GMT
By the way, read what you wrote and see if this doesn't come to mind...
Fa·nat·ic
noun: fanatic; plural noun: fanatics
1.
a person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal, especially for an extreme religious or political cause or Marvel cinematic universe.
synonyms: zealot, extremist, militant, dogmatist, devotee, adherent; More
sectarian, bigot, partisan, radical, diehard, marvelite;
•informal
a person with an obsessive interest in and enthusiasm for something (Marvel), especially an activity, such as posting on DC boards... about Marvel.
|
|
|
|
Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 2, 2017 20:30:01 GMT
WHOA!
Its doesnt look like you're winning a war when you look at it like that, does it?
WOAH,WOAH, stop the press lenlenlen- you neglect to mention what else speaks for DCEU: - DCEU after only 3 (three!) movies has already been awarded an Oscar. And is currently discussed to become nominated as first CBM for best film/director this very year. MCU after 17+ movies has NADA (that's: zero, null), not even talk. - DCEU after only 4 movies has already several iconic musical themes, such as the WW e-chello one everybody associates the franchise with and will recognize when played on the street. MCU after 16+ has nothing of the sort. - DCEU has nothing that is a 0%-10% critical rating failure (like some of their TV shows) paired with the lowest viewer ratings ever, i.e,. an abominable pattern (!) of super flops and media embarrassments. DC has very successful shows, but smartly outsourced them to accommodate its more creative, varied, less formulaic output, thereby being able to create different versions of its heroes,. - Milestones: DCEU has the first super-successful female-led CMB (direction and title lead) after a history of discrimination (under MCU too, just ask Patty Jenkins) – and has created an unprecedented media sensation everybody even ppl who never have seen a CBM are aware of. Uh, comparatively, MCU after 17+ still prefers to dabble in raccoon turd and choses to re-rehash spider poo-poo heads for Sony, and only now tries to copy DCEU's approach after DC cleared the way; - DCEU is the first franchise with two black leads (female and male in SS) and a female antagonist in one movie (SS); MCU after 17+ movies is announcing a black male lead after DC successfully did it, deplorable! - The 4 DCEU films were all very successful commercially. They made more money than the first 4 MCU films in 2009-2012 (money making is the only thing MCU is really good at...); this despite the fact that MCU is big in overseas and relentlessly milking the super-lucrative children market with it's formulaic movies - and thus should always have a natural commercial advantage over DC! - Talk about bad continuity in MCU (rainbow bridge, 10 years debacle etc). Yet you do not need the movies for that: MCU is not even able to get it's own name right, the term "Cinematic" does not entail crummy TV shows and unsellable comics - even though everybody will understand that MCU wants people to forget about that stinker TV shows it produces... Thanks for the supporting info.
I don't mind that Weirdraptor loves his Marvel. I love those movies too. I've seen every Marvel movie at the theatre and have enjoyed them all. As far as I'm concerned we're in the golden age of comic book super hero movies right now, with both universes in full swing and several independents up-coming too. Its a good time for all us nerds.
But this guy is just too much. His single minded, one sided, hypocritical attacks are just over board. I cant help but come to DC's defense in light of that.
|
|
|
|
Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 2, 2017 20:49:16 GMT
But this guy is just too much. His single minded, one sided, hypocritical attacks are just over board. I cant help but come to DC's defense in light of that.
lol, you are not alone with this, the raptor brings out sides in all of us that we were not aware of in the first place. Fanatical hatemongers like him show us who we really are and where our place is in the good fight. And your raw Bat-Hulk powers are more than welcome here...  |
|
|
|
Post by formersamhmd on Nov 2, 2017 21:00:10 GMT
It already won the war. It will actually complete its first big story, which was a decade in the making by the way, long before the DCEU gets it together enough to pull anything even a fraction as impressive off. The MCU will be the first movie franchise of its kind now and forever, and it beat DC to the punch in every way. The war was over the instant Green Lantern failed.
If you're going PRE shared universes DC stomps Marvel.
But lets look at the first four films of both shared universes (4 since DCEU is only 4 films in so far). Numbers in millions...
1st four films comparison U.S. Opening U.S. total World total
Man of Steel 116 291 668
Batman V Superman 166 330 873
Suicide Squad 133 325 745
Wonder Woman 103 409 820
Iron Man 102 318 585
Incredible Hulk 55 134 263
Thor 65 181 449
Captain America 65 176 370
Its doesnt look like you're winning a war when you look at it like that, does it?
The DC movies cost more to make and market and were using easily recognized characters who didn't need introduction or explanation, the MCU movies were introducing characters the general public weren't aware of.
So Marvel still did more. And are those numbers adjusted for inflation? And are DC fans still clinging to a Makeup Award?
|
|
|
|
Post by Skaathar on Nov 2, 2017 23:18:28 GMT
It's really not fair to compare DCEU's first 4 films with the MCU's first 4 films since the DCEU films are benefiting from the cbm surge that the MCU brought about.
|
|
|
|
Post by formersamhmd on Nov 3, 2017 0:16:47 GMT
It's really not fair to compare DCEU's first 4 films with the MCU's first 4 films since the DCEU films are benefiting from the cbm surge that the MCU brought about. And they used their Big Guns first, while MCU had to build their cast up piece by piece. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
@Deleted
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2017 0:48:49 GMT
It already won the war. It will actually complete its first big story, which was a decade in the making by the way, long before the DCEU gets it together enough to pull anything even a fraction as impressive off. The MCU will be the first movie franchise of its kind now and forever, and it beat DC to the punch in every way. The war was over the instant Green Lantern failed. WHOA! Now you're going to include NON DCEU movies?! Well in that case... The "WAR" was won before the MCU even came into existence!
Green Lantern is not part of the DCEU as it was not the beginning of a shared universe. That Distinction belongs to MOS as you well know. But since you opened the can of worms, LETS compare Marvel pre-MCU to DC pre-DCEU...
Superman the Movie blew that shit up! Superman 2 blew that shit up! Batman blew that shit up! Batman Returns blew that shit up! Batman Begins blew that shit up! The Dark Knight blew that shit up!
If you're going PRE shared universes DC stomps Marvel.
But lets look at the first four films of both shared universes (4 since DCEU is only 4 films in so far). Numbers in millions...
1st four films comparison U.S. Opening U.S. total World total
Man of Steel 116 291 668
Batman V Superman 166 330 873
Suicide Squad 133 325 745
Wonder Woman 103 409 820
Iron Man 102 318 585
Incredible Hulk 55 134 263
Thor 65 181 449
Captain America 65 176 370
Its doesnt look like you're winning a war when you look at it like that, does it?
Yes, the first four films of the DCEU certainly benefited from all the MCU's hard work. Thank you for pointing that out. Nope. The MCU still won. |
|
|
|
Post by justanaveragejoe on Nov 3, 2017 2:34:59 GMT
It already won the war. It will actually complete its first big story, which was a decade in the making by the way, long before the DCEU gets it together enough to pull anything even a fraction as impressive off. The MCU will be the first movie franchise of its kind now and forever, and it beat DC to the punch in every way. The war was over the instant Green Lantern failed. WHOA! Now you're going to include NON DCEU movies?! Well in that case... The "WAR" was won before the MCU even came into existence!
Green Lantern is not part of the DCEU as it was not the beginning of a shared universe. That Distinction belongs to MOS as you well know. But since you opened the can of worms, LETS compare Marvel pre-MCU to DC pre-DCEU...
Superman the Movie blew that shit up! Superman 2 blew that shit up! Batman blew that shit up! Batman Returns blew that shit up! Batman Begins blew that shit up! The Dark Knight blew that shit up!
If you're going PRE shared universes DC stomps Marvel.
But lets look at the first four films of both shared universes (4 since DCEU is only 4 films in so far). Numbers in millions...
1st four films comparison U.S. Opening U.S. total World total
Man of Steel 116 291 668
Batman V Superman 166 330 873
Suicide Squad 133 325 745
Wonder Woman 103 409 820
Iron Man 102 318 585
Incredible Hulk 55 134 263
Thor 65 181 449
Captain America 65 176 370
Its doesnt look like you're winning a war when you look at it like that, does it?
The first 4 DCEU does have an unfair advantage against the MCU first 4, I think it's fair to compare the DCEU and MCU from 2013-now, since 2013 was the year the DCEU started. The DCEU U.S. opening average is $130 million, the MCU (2013-2017) average is $122 million. The DCEU U.S. total average is $340 million, the MCU (2013-2017) average is $321 million The DCEU world total average is $777, the MCU (2013-2017) average is $884 million Also the MCU have 4 $1 billion movies while the DCEU does not. Also the average RT score for the DCEU is 50% while the MCU average score is 83% (85% from 2013-2017). Oh, and let's not bring up any Oscars. I know Suicide Squad won an Oscar, but it's still a piece of shit. |
|
|
|
Post by formersamhmd on Nov 3, 2017 2:37:49 GMT
Oh, and let's not bring up any Oscars. I know Suicide Squad won an Oscar, but it's still a piece of shit. It won an Oscar for Makeup. Let's not kid ourselves as to thinking that means anything. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
@Deleted
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2017 2:51:48 GMT
WHOA! Now you're going to include NON DCEU movies?! Well in that case... The "WAR" was won before the MCU even came into existence!
Green Lantern is not part of the DCEU as it was not the beginning of a shared universe. That Distinction belongs to MOS as you well know. But since you opened the can of worms, LETS compare Marvel pre-MCU to DC pre-DCEU...
Superman the Movie blew that shit up! Superman 2 blew that shit up! Batman blew that shit up! Batman Returns blew that shit up! Batman Begins blew that shit up! The Dark Knight blew that shit up!
If you're going PRE shared universes DC stomps Marvel.
But lets look at the first four films of both shared universes (4 since DCEU is only 4 films in so far). Numbers in millions...
1st four films comparison U.S. Opening U.S. total World total
Man of Steel 116 291 668
Batman V Superman 166 330 873
Suicide Squad 133 325 745
Wonder Woman 103 409 820
Iron Man 102 318 585
Incredible Hulk 55 134 263
Thor 65 181 449
Captain America 65 176 370
Its doesnt look like you're winning a war when you look at it like that, does it?
The first 4 DCEU does have an unfair advantage against the MCU first 4, I think it's fair to compare the DCEU and MCU from 2013-now, since 2013 was the year the DCEU started. The DCEU U.S. opening average is $130 million, the MCU (2013-2017) average is $122 million. The DCEU U.S. total average is $340 million, the MCU (2013-2017) average is $321 million The DCEU world total average is $777, the MCU (2013-2017) average is $884 million Also the MCU have 4 $1 billion movies while the DCEU does not. Also the average RT score for the DCEU is 50% while the MCU average score is 83% (85% from 2013-2017). Oh, and let's not bring up any Oscars. I know Suicide Squad won an Oscar, but it's still a piece of shit. Like any of that matters to someone who's out to spite me specifically. He'll just look at the grosses without considering the factors that went into them and just say the DCEU is winning to try bugging me. Little does lenlenlenlenlenlenlenlenlenlen know, it doesn't. The MCU is the dominant force in cinema right now, and the DCEU is just trying to play catch-up. He has to learn to live with that. |
|
