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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 3:13:23 GMT
I'm sure I'll get lukelovesfilm, DC-Fan, charzhino, and their ilk saying they shouldn't go back to Marvel. Luke disliked the 2015 FF movie and might agree that Marvel is a better place for the F4 and it's villains. I mean would you love to see Avengers take on Doctor Doom or Galactus even Guardians meeting Silver Surfer? He's on the X-Men board right now begging Fox to say no.
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 9, 2017 4:11:32 GMT
F4 yes. Xmen too.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Nov 9, 2017 4:31:07 GMT
I loved the Fantastic Four comics as a kid. They were arguably my favorite.
I really want a cool iteration, and I think Marvel is the studio that can do that.
I don't think the X-Men would fit, but the FF definitely would.
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Post by agentblue on Nov 9, 2017 5:07:55 GMT
Most people dont realize that Fantastic Four are owned by Constantin films and Fox only distributed the three films. So fox has no say in where the rights go.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 9, 2017 5:09:35 GMT
Is this even a question? Of course they would, it could even be the worst thing Marvel Studios ever put out and it would still be better than Fox's last three attempts.
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 9, 2017 5:24:26 GMT
For those who keep saying X-men should stay with fox, just remember that the X-men movies have been pretty much hit and miss. In fact it was mostly miss. Sure they gave us a good Wolverine, Prof. X and Deadpool but is everyone forgetting how they completely butchered almost every character they laid hands on?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 5:26:43 GMT
For those who keep saying X-men should stay with fox, just remember that the X-men movies have been pretty much hit and miss. In fact it was mostly miss. Sure they gave us a good Wolverine, Prof. X and Deadpool but is everyone forgetting how they completely butchered almost every character they laid hands on? And they just keep doing the same thing over and over again. X-Men: Apocalypse practically followed X-Men 2's outline, beat for beat, right up to Prof X being used by the villains.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 9, 2017 5:36:44 GMT
For those who keep saying X-men should stay with fox, just remember that the X-men movies have been pretty much hit and miss. In fact it was mostly miss. Sure they gave us a good Wolverine, Prof. X and Deadpool but is everyone forgetting how they completely butchered almost every character they laid hands on? They think if Disney got the rights back then we'd no longer see R rated films like Logan or Deadpool, they don't quite understand how the industry works do they?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 5:38:03 GMT
For those who keep saying X-men should stay with fox, just remember that the X-men movies have been pretty much hit and miss. In fact it was mostly miss. Sure they gave us a good Wolverine, Prof. X and Deadpool but is everyone forgetting how they completely butchered almost every character they laid hands on? They think if Disney got the rights back then we'd no longer see R rated films like Logan or Deadpool, they don't quite understand how the industry works do they? True, but I'd be willing to give up Deadpool and Logan for just one X-Men movie that's even half as good as an MCU film.
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 9, 2017 5:54:13 GMT
For those who keep saying X-men should stay with fox, just remember that the X-men movies have been pretty much hit and miss. In fact it was mostly miss. Sure they gave us a good Wolverine, Prof. X and Deadpool but is everyone forgetting how they completely butchered almost every character they laid hands on? They think if Disney got the rights back then we'd no longer see R rated films like Logan or Deadpool, they don't quite understand how the industry works do they? I'd be willing to give up an R rated Logan and Deadpool if it meant I could get even a semi decent Cyclops, Rogue, Apocalypse or Jean Grey.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 9, 2017 6:21:49 GMT
Is this even a question? Of course they would, it could even be the worst thing Marvel Studios ever put out and it would still be better than Fox's last three attempts. The 1st Fantastic Four movie is better than any movie MCU has made.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 9, 2017 6:35:50 GMT
For those who keep saying X-men should stay with fox, just remember that the X-men movies have been pretty much hit and miss. In fact it was mostly miss. Sure they gave us a good Wolverine, Prof. X and Deadpool but is everyone forgetting how they completely butchered almost every character they laid hands on? you neglect to mention that the misses were on MCU level bad, while the hits soared to heights MCU could not possibly imagine. I am taking about the narrative maturity of Logan, the allegorical character writing in X1, the daring tonal absurdity of Deadpool, the imaginative diversity of DoPP and many others. These films made Magneto, Logan and Xavier household names and top ten characters. MCU Marvel would ruin and butcher allt that with their commercialized kiddy formula for the dumb masses. It would be like giving the James Bond series to Michael Bay.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 9, 2017 7:34:33 GMT
Is this even a question? Of course they would, it could even be the worst thing Marvel Studios ever put out and it would still be better than Fox's last three attempts. The 1st Fantastic Four movie is better than any movie MCU has made. According to who? Oh, yes, nobody.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 9, 2017 7:50:50 GMT
For those who keep saying X-men should stay with fox, just remember that the X-men movies have been pretty much hit and miss. In fact it was mostly miss. Sure they gave us a good Wolverine, Prof. X and Deadpool but is everyone forgetting how they completely butchered almost every character they laid hands on? you neglect to mention that the misses were on MCU level bad, while the hits soared to heights MCU could not possibly imagine. I am taking about the narrative maturity of Logan, the allegorical character writing in X1, the daring tonal absurdity of Deadpool, the imaginative diversity of DoPP and many others. These films made Magneto, Logan and Xavier household names and top ten characters. MCU Marvel would ruin and butcher allt that with their commercialized kiddy formula for the dumb masses. It would be like giving the James Bond series to Michael Bay. The worst MCU film is still miles above the worst X-Men movie while the better ones are on par with the best of the MCU. All the things you list as accomplishments have already been present in the MCU, not just on the big screen but the little screen as well. Magneto, Xavier, and Logan were already household names and top ten characters before their big screen iterations made their debut in 2000, and they'd still be as popular today without any of the released X-Men films. Any X-Men movie is going to be a "McMovie", in other words a highly commercialized product for the masses that can be easily located and paid for by the consumer, and don't take that much brain power to comprehend their intended messages and meanings. Finally, if Disney did require 21st Century Fox they would see no reason to alter Deadpool or the more R-rated X-Men related content because if they're already raking in millions and pleasing both critics and audiences there's no need to damage what's already proven to be a good business venture. Disney acquiring Fox does not mean anyone from the company currently is in jeopardy of losing work either, they'd still have their jobs and be allowed to make the decisions they were doing before. If they're making creative choices that are not delivering desired results then higher-ups will have to step in and give their say. This is the same situation Feige and the rest of Marvel were dealing with when Disney acquired them back in the day. It's how things work.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Nov 9, 2017 8:18:39 GMT
Is this even a question? Of course they would, it could even be the worst thing Marvel Studios ever put out and it would still be better than Fox's last three attempts. The 1st Fantastic Four movie is better than any movie MCU has made. In your dreams.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Nov 9, 2017 8:24:00 GMT
you neglect to mention that the misses were on MCU level bad, while the hits soared to heights MCU could not possibly imagine. I am taking about the narrative maturity of Logan, the allegorical character writing in X1, the daring tonal absurdity of Deadpool, the imaginative diversity of DoPP and many others. These films made Magneto, Logan and Xavier household names and top ten characters. MCU Marvel would ruin and butcher allt that with their commercialized kiddy formula for the dumb masses. It would be like giving the James Bond series to Michael Bay. The worst MCU film is still miles above the worst X-Men movie while the better ones are on par with the best of the MCU. All the things you list as accomplishments have already been present in the MCU, not just on the big screen but the little screen as well. Magneto, Xavier, and Logan were already household names and top ten characters before their big screen iterations made their debut in 2000, and they'd still be as popular today without any of the released X-Men films. Any X-Men movie is going to be a "McMovie", in other words a highly commercialized product for the masses that can be easily located and paid for by the consumer, and don't take that much brain power to comprehend their intended messages and meanings. Finally, if Disney did require 21st Century Fox they would see no reason to alter Deadpool or the more R-rated X-Men related content because if they're already raking in millions and pleasing both critics and audiences there's no need to damage what's already proven to be a good business venture. Disney acquiring Fox does not mean anyone from the company currently is in jeopardy of losing work either, they'd still have their jobs and be allowed to make the decisions they were doing before. If they're making creative choices that are not delivering desired results then higher-ups will have to step in and give their say. This is the same situation Feige and the rest of Marvel were dealing with when Disney acquired them back in the day. It's how things work. I think Tristan has been watching too many McDC movies.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 9, 2017 10:53:44 GMT
For those who keep saying X-men should stay with fox, just remember that the X-men movies have been pretty much hit and miss. In fact it was mostly miss. Sure they gave us a good Wolverine, Prof. X and Deadpool but is everyone forgetting how they completely butchered almost every character they laid hands on? It would be like giving the James Bond series to Michael Bay. Maybe I'm evil for saying this but I'd watch a James Bond film directed by Michael Bay! It would be a beautiful Trainwreck!
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Post by charzhino on Nov 9, 2017 11:04:29 GMT
People don't see the big picture of reunification. Anti-Fox/Sony and Pro-MCU fan-atics are so consumed in their hatred of everything the other studios represent that they can't imagine any studio beyond Marvel daring to make a film. Fixed.
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Post by charzhino on Nov 9, 2017 11:08:19 GMT
For those who keep saying X-men should stay with fox, just remember that the X-men movies have been pretty much hit and miss. In fact it was mostly miss. Sure they gave us a good Wolverine, Prof. X and Deadpool but is everyone forgetting how they completely butchered almost every character they laid hands on? Demonstrably false. If you're going by reception, only X3, Apocalypse and Origins have been misses. That's not "most", why lie? And butchered is a strong word. I would describe the Fan4stic characters as butchered interpretations. Cyclops, Storm etc have been underused at best, not "butchered". These are comic book adaptions not literal direct transfers. Would you say Dark Knight Rises butchered Bane?
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 9, 2017 11:23:57 GMT
For those who keep saying X-men should stay with fox, just remember that the X-men movies have been pretty much hit and miss. In fact it was mostly miss. Sure they gave us a good Wolverine, Prof. X and Deadpool but is everyone forgetting how they completely butchered almost every character they laid hands on? Demonstrably false. If you're going by reception, only X3, Apocalypse and Origins have been misses. That's not "most", why lie? And butchered is a strong word. I would describe the Fan4stic characters as butchered interpretations. Cyclops, Storm etc have been underused at best, not "butchered". These are comic book adaptions not literal direct transfers. Would you say Dark Knight Rises butchered Bane? If anything The Dark Knight Rises Bane was shown more respect than the Bane in Batman and Robin.
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