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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 13, 2017 16:45:47 GMT
Iron Man would likely face off cyborg & probably win as he has way more time in the suit. Bats vs Cap. Cap has the edge being enhanced. Cap only has a strength advantage, but Batman is a better strategist than Cap and has defeated many stronger opponents. With all his strength and his shield, all it takes to knock out Cap is 1 Bat-smoke bomb. Even Cap's shield can do anything against a Bat-smoke bomb. Vision & SW vs Aquaman & Flash SW might have an edge since her brother was fast but she is likely throwing her blasts |
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Post by scabab on Nov 13, 2017 16:47:50 GMT
merh Well this is only counting the movie versions and what they've done in the movies. Are they familiar with each other....no. They'd just be from different Earth's and they'd just come across each other and fight just because. Iron Man can't make any Kryptonite and Batman can't make some device to shut down Iron Man's suit either. Batman doesn't need to make some device to shut down Iron Man's suit. Cyborg can shut down Iron Man's suit. That's what Cyborg's natural power set is - hacking into anything with an AI and controlling. So Cyborg can easily shut down Iron Man's suit. Scarlet Witch can mess with their minds like she did The Avengers in Age of Ultron but she has to be close enough to do that. The Flash would knock Scarlett Witch out of commission before Scarlett Witch can even do anything. I'm not that familiar with Cyborg but I suppose that would make him handy against Iron Man. Not that it would do him any good against Thor or Hulk but I suppose there would be others for that. What about Vision? Couldn't he get into Cyborgs tech like he did with Ultron? |
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 13, 2017 16:54:15 GMT
Wonder Woman - Thor equivalent. A couple god types punching each other out with no clear victor. Wonder Woman can also create a concussion wave with her bracelets and also use her magic lasso to lasso Thor. Wonder Woman is the clear victor. Even Chris Hemsworth has admitted that Wonder Woman would kick Thor's ass. The Flash - Unless he's willing to kill her, the Flash is easily neutralized by the Scarlet Witch. The Flash can knock out Scarlett Witch before Scarlett Witch can do anything. The Flash is too fast for Scarlett Witch and is the clear victor. Cyborg - Iron Man equivalent. A couple mech-suit types punching each other out with no clear victor. Iron Man has no chance against Cyborg. Cyborg's power set includes the ability to hack into anything with an AI and control it. So Cyborg can easily shut down the Iron Man suit. Cyborg is the clear victor. Aquaman - Captain America equivalent. A couple metahuman types punching each outer out with no clear victor. Depends on where this fight takes place. It's like if you're being chased by an alligator. On land, it's possible for you to outrun the alligator, but in the water, you have no chance of outswimming the alligator. Likewise, Aquaman is too strong in the water so if the battle took place in the water, Cap has no chance against Aquaman. The Avengers easily defeats the Justice League. Nope, the Avengers are like Junior Varsity while the Justice League is the Varsity team. The Justice League is too powerful for the Avengers and would easily defeat the Avengers. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 13, 2017 16:58:04 GMT
Batman doesn't need to make some device to shut down Iron Man's suit. Cyborg can shut down Iron Man's suit. That's what Cyborg's natural power set is - hacking into anything with an AI and controlling. So Cyborg can easily shut down Iron Man's suit. The Flash would knock Scarlett Witch out of commission before Scarlett Witch can even do anything. I'm not that familiar with Cyborg but I suppose that would make him handy against Iron Man. Not that it would do him any good against Thor or Hulk but I suppose there would be others for that. What about Vision? Couldn't he get into Cyborgs tech like he did with Ultron? I'm no that familiar with Vision's powers (never read Avengers comics). But Ultron's tech was human tech. Cyborg's tech is Apokoliptan tech so it's much more advanced than Ultron. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 13, 2017 17:11:45 GMT
I'll tell you what... I would LOVE to see that movie. Kevin Feige and Geoff Johns are buddy, buddy. Its not TOTALLY impossible. Fingers crossed.
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Post by scabab on Nov 13, 2017 17:16:58 GMT
I'll tell you what... I would LOVE to see that movie. Kevin Feige and Geoff Johns are buddy, buddy. Its not TOTALLY impossible. Fingers crossed.
I would pay good money to see a Justice League vs The Avengers movie. Co-produced by Disney and Warner Brothers. It'd never happen but they actually could make it work within the movie at least. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 13, 2017 19:20:01 GMT
I'll tell you what... I would LOVE to see that movie. Kevin Feige and Geoff Johns are buddy, buddy. Its not TOTALLY impossible. Fingers crossed.
I would pay good money to see a Justice League vs The Avengers movie. Co-produced by Disney and Warner Brothers. It'd never happen but they actually could make it work within the movie at least. Well, if SONY and Marvel/Disney can work something out (Spiderman), I don't see why Warner and Disney wouldn't see the benefit of making what would be arguably the most ambitious movie ever made. The profit would be big enough to spread around to both. This would be a movie that could beat Avatar numbers. And they've already got the tool: Joss Whedon. |
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 13, 2017 19:45:17 GMT
I guess Flash will forget he has super speed like he normally does when Batman is around. I guess you haven't seen the part of the trailer where Bruce throws a Batarang at Barry and Barry just picks the Batarang out of the air like the Batarang is moving in slow-motion, which it is to a speedster like the Flash. And the Avengers would be moving in slow-motion compared to the Flash and Superman.
Like charzhino said, Superman, Wonder Woman, and the Flash are too powerful for the Avengers.
But according to Batman fans, the Flash loses to Batman in a fight so I guess that means the Flash is too stupid to be a real factor. Imagine how quickly he would lose to one of the Avengers with real powers. Too bad because super speed is the "I win" button. There is no way to beat it. The Flash must be one of the stupidest characters in comics history to lose to Batman. |
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 13, 2017 19:49:09 GMT
Bats vs Cap. Cap has the edge being enhanced. Cap only has a strength advantage, but Batman is a better strategist than Cap and has defeated many stronger opponents. With all his strength and his shield, all it takes to knock out Cap is 1 Bat-smoke bomb. Even Cap's shield can do anything against a Bat-smoke bomb. Cap is better at strategy. It's what he does. Batman is better at "preparation". But since no fight ever goes according to plan a real fight would favor the character who can react strategically in the moment. That's Cap. |
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Post by damngumby on Nov 13, 2017 21:14:03 GMT
Superman is curled up in the fetal position crying, "Martha!".
Batman is quickly beaten to a pulp by any one of the Avengers, take your pick.
Wonder Woman gazes into Thor's baby blue eyes and swoons. Thor shows her his "hammer".
The Flash briefly knocks the Scarlet Witch unconscious. When she awakens she accidentally vaporizes him.
Aquaman hides underwater, daring anyone to jump in and fight him. He is ignored.
Cyborg gets jumped by Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk and Vision. He is turned into a toaster.
After the fight ...
Superman is in therapy.
Batman is in traction.
Wonder Woman is knocked up.
The Flash is dead (sorry about that)
Aquaman is still waiting for someone to pay attention to him.
Cyborg is making toast at the Avengers headquarters.
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Post by scabab on Nov 13, 2017 21:34:21 GMT
Batman wouldn't have time to prep here. The two teams would just suddenly be thrown at each other.
I think at best and because Scarlet Witch is a inexperienced glass cannon, that Batman being the stealthy guy that he is could sneak up on her and knock her out.
Aside from Captain America he stands no real chance at eating anyone else.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 14, 2017 1:13:01 GMT
Cap only has a strength advantage, but Batman is a better strategist than Cap and has defeated many stronger opponents. With all his strength and his shield, all it takes to knock out Cap is 1 Bat-smoke bomb. Even Cap's shield can do anything against a Bat-smoke bomb. Cap is better at strategy. It's what he does. Batman is better at "preparation". But since no fight ever goes according to plan a real fight would favor the character who can react strategically in the moment. That's Cap. MCU Cap is really dumb at strategy because he had no strategy at all to defeat the Chitauri. Fortunately, for the Avengers, the military was there to launch a nuclear missile that could destroy the Chitauri mother ship. If the military hadn't been there to launch their nuclear missile, then the Avengers wouldn't have been able to defeat the Chitauri since than Cap had no strategy for defeating the Chitauri and Cap's entire strategy was to just stand around on the street playing traffic cop while the Chitauri picked off civilians from skies above Manhattan.
Oh, and Cap's strategy of having Scarlett Witch lift the bomb in the air in Civil War was so brilliant that it blew out the side of the building and killed many people inside the building, who were safe from Crossbones and wouldn't have been in any danger had not Cap and his team fucked it up and gotten them killed.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 14, 2017 1:49:06 GMT
Batman wouldn't have time to prep here. The two teams would just suddenly be thrown at each other. I think at best and because Scarlet Witch is a inexperienced glass cannon, that Batman being the stealthy guy that he is could sneak up on her and knock her out. Aside from Captain America he stands no real chance at eating anyone else. Actually, Batman defeated the Hulk in this crossover comic from the 1980s: Batman vs The Incredible Hulk.
Even if you say Batman wouldn't have any prep time, Batman would still always have his utility belt (just like Cap always has his shield, Thor always has his hammer, and Wonder Woman always has her magic lasso) so Batman would have plenty of gadgets in his utility belt that he can use, such as Bat-grenades and Bat-smoke bombs. 1 Bat-smoke bomb would take down Cap and Scarlett Witch. Cap may be strong beut even Cap needs to breathe and wouldn't be any use if he's choking out on Bat-smoke bomb.
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Post by merh on Nov 14, 2017 3:16:50 GMT
Iron Man would likely face off cyborg & probably win as he has way more time in the suit. We are doing movie versions. Cyborg is just starting out. Tony hacked SHIELD. Who's to say Vision can't hack Cyborg? Or Friday? Cap is a strategist, dude. Like getting that flag no one else managed to. Quicksilver was fast. He died saving Hawkeye & the kid This Flash is a kid He's likely behind even the tv version. He's not very solid in his abilities yet |
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Post by merh on Nov 14, 2017 3:20:36 GMT
Wonder Woman - Thor equivalent. A couple god types punching each other out with no clear victor. Wonder Woman can also create a concussion wave with her bracelets and also use her magic lasso to lasso Thor. Wonder Woman is the clear victor. Even Chris Hemsworth has admitted that Wonder Woman would kick Thor's ass. Chris Hemsworth is a gentleman. However his personal opinion has squat to do with how Marvel sees the character. |
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 14, 2017 5:53:12 GMT
Superman is curled up in the fetal position crying, "Martha!". Batman is quickly beaten to a pulp by any one of the Avengers, take your pick. Wonder Woman gazes into Thor's baby blue eyes and swoons. Thor shows her his "hammer". The Flash briefly knocks the Scarlet Witch unconscious. When she awakens she accidentally vaporizes him. Aquaman hides underwater, daring anyone to jump in and fight him. He is ignored. Cyborg gets jumped by Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk and Vision. He is turned into a toaster. After the fight ... Superman is in therapy. Batman is in traction. Wonder Woman is knocked up. The Flash is dead (sorry about that) Aquaman is still waiting for someone to pay attention to him. Cyborg is making toast at the Avengers headquarters. Great stuff...the Aquaman and Cyborg bits made me lol. |
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 14, 2017 6:04:53 GMT
Cap is better at strategy. It's what he does. Batman is better at "preparation". But since no fight ever goes according to plan a real fight would favor the character who can react strategically in the moment. That's Cap. MCU Cap is really dumb at strategy because he had no strategy at all to defeat the Chitauri. Fortunately, for the Avengers, the military was there to launch a nuclear missile that could destroy the Chitauri mother ship. If the military hadn't been there to launch their nuclear missile, then the Avengers wouldn't have been able to defeat the Chitauri since than Cap had no strategy for defeating the Chitauri and Cap's entire strategy was to just stand around on the street playing traffic cop while the Chitauri picked off civilians from skies above Manhattan.
Oh, and Cap's strategy of having Scarlett Witch lift the bomb in the air in Civil War was so brilliant that it blew out the side of the building and killed many people inside the building, who were safe from Crossbones and wouldn't have been in any danger had not Cap and his team fucked it up and gotten them killed.
Well Batman fights like this: And this: Cap fights like this: You pretty much just sic some dogs on Batman and he's taken care of. And the rest of the JL actually lose to that guy. That's pretty weak. |
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 14, 2017 6:06:41 GMT
Batman wouldn't have time to prep here. The two teams would just suddenly be thrown at each other. I think at best and because Scarlet Witch is a inexperienced glass cannon, that Batman being the stealthy guy that he is could sneak up on her and knock her out. Aside from Captain America he stands no real chance at eating anyone else. Actually, Batman defeated the Hulk in this crossover comic from the 1980s: Batman vs The Incredible Hulk.
Even if you say Batman wouldn't have any prep time, Batman would still always have his utility belt (just like Cap always has his shield, Thor always has his hammer, and Wonder Woman always has her magic lasso) so Batman would have plenty of gadgets in his utility belt that he can use, such as Bat-grenades and Bat-smoke bombs. 1 Bat-smoke bomb would take down Cap and Scarlett Witch. Cap may be strong beut even Cap needs to breathe and wouldn't be any use if he's choking out on Bat-smoke bomb.
I didn't know we have to give Batman the writer induced stupidity power. Like in that comic where Batman can somehow hit the Hulk and force him to inhale. That was pretty wacky writing. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 14, 2017 7:44:15 GMT
Cyborg not only can hack SHIELD, Cyborg can hack anything with an AI, including Tony's Iron Man suits. In baseball, some hitters (even if they're among the best hitters in the league, will always have 1 or 2 pitchers that they just can't hit because that 1 or 2 pitcher is just a really bad matchup for them. And that's how it is with Iron Man. Cyborg is just a really bad matchup for Iron Man because Cyborg can easily shut down the Iron Man suit. It's no different than Human Torch being a really bad matchup for Martian Manhunter.
Martian Manhunter is 1 of the most powerful superheroes but Martian Manhunter has no chance against Human Torch. Likewise, Iron Man has no chance against Cyborg, and only delusional MCU fans would think otherwise.]Cap is a strategist, dude. Like getting that flag no one else managed to. And yet, Cap had no strategy at all to defeat the Chitauri. If it weren't for the military and their nuclear missile, the Avengers wouldn't have been able to stop the Chitauri and the Chitauri would've taken over Manhattan. Also, Cap's strategy of having Scarlett Witch the bomb in the air was so brilliant that it cost many civilians in the building their lives. Those civilians weren't in any danger from Crossbones and wouldn't have died if not for Cap's brilliant strategy. LOL!!! Quicksilver is so "fast" that he's the 1st speedster in CBM history who can't catch a bullet in mid-air. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 14, 2017 8:23:30 GMT
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