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Post by scabab on Nov 14, 2017 12:57:06 GMT
DC-Fan He would have his utility belt. I'm not sure what would be in there that would hinder Cap too much. He could probably disorient him or catch him off guard but if Iron Man couldn't keep him down its unlikely Batman would. harpospoke Well Batman did single handedly take down a whole bunch of trained League of Shadow ninjas too. The choreography may not be up there but the intent is that he's supposed to be a great fighter.
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Post by scabab on Nov 14, 2017 12:59:27 GMT
Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrdddddssssssss
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Post by DSDSquared on Nov 14, 2017 13:08:34 GMT
I love the Avengers, but I think the Justice League wins easily. Thor and Hulk are beasts, but could they beat Superman, Wonder Woman, or The Flash? I do not think so honestly. Iron Man and Batman would be a very fun fight though.
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 14, 2017 20:11:16 GMT
Cyborg not only can hack SHIELD, Cyborg can hack anything with an AI, including Tony's Iron Man suits. In baseball, some hitters (even if they're among the best hitters in the league, will always have 1 or 2 pitchers that they just can't hit because that 1 or 2 pitcher is just a really bad matchup for them. And that's how it is with Iron Man. Cyborg is just a really bad matchup for Iron Man because Cyborg can easily shut down the Iron Man suit. It's no different than Human Torch being a really bad matchup for Martian Manhunter.
Martian Manhunter is 1 of the most powerful superheroes but Martian Manhunter has no chance against Human Torch. Likewise, Iron Man has no chance against Cyborg, and only delusional MCU fans would think otherwise.LOL!!! Quicksilver is so "fast" that he's the 1st speedster in CBM history who can't catch a bullet in mid-air. Again....Flash and Cyborg lose to Batman. So whatever their abilities are, they aren't smart enough to use them.
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 14, 2017 20:15:32 GMT
DC-Fan He would have his utility belt. I'm not sure what would be in there that would hinder Cap too much. He could probably disorient him or catch him off guard but if Iron Man couldn't keep him down its unlikely Batman would. harpospoke Well Batman did single handedly take down a whole bunch of trained League of Shadow ninjas too. The choreography may not be up there but the intent is that he's supposed to be a great fighter. "intent" is nice and all, but boy Cap certainly looks far more capable on screen. One of the main problems Batman would face in a fight with Cap is that Cap doesn't get tired. The most highly trained fighters in the world get gassed in a hurry in an intense fight. (watch MMA and boxers) Batman would be out of the fight in under a minute because Cap would be just as fresh as when it started. And that's not even getting into the fact that Cap is faster, stronger, and more durable. It really wouldn't be close.
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Post by scabab on Nov 14, 2017 20:26:34 GMT
"intent" is nice and all, but boy Cap certainly looks far more capable on screen. One of the main problems Batman would face in a fight with Cap is that Cap doesn't get tired. The most highly trained fighters in the world get gassed in a hurry in an intense fight. (watch MMA and boxers) Batman would be out of the fight in under a minute because Cap would be just as fresh as when it started. And that's not even getting into the fact that Cap is faster, stronger, and more durable. It really wouldn't be close. It's probably just a difference in the suit. Batman has a really bulky and awkward costume, until The Dark Knight he couldn't even turn his head let alone do anything too fancy choreography wise. The DCEU Batman would be every bit as good of a fighter as Captain America but yeah he wouldn't be able to keep it up as long and would lack the strength. He'd have to use other means to win. He'd probably lose either way but it wouldn't be a blow out. Not that it would really matter either way because there involvement here would be insignificant. Compared to Superman and Thor, they may as well just sit down and watch.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 20:26:37 GMT
DC-Fan He would have his utility belt. I'm not sure what would be in there that would hinder Cap too much. He could probably disorient him or catch him off guard but if Iron Man couldn't keep him down its unlikely Batman would. harpospoke Well Batman did single handedly take down a whole bunch of trained League of Shadow ninjas too. The choreography may not be up there but the intent is that he's supposed to be a great fighter. "intent" is nice and all, but boy Cap certainly looks far more capable on screen. One of the main problems Batman would face in a fight with Cap is that Cap doesn't get tired. The most highly trained fighters in the world get gassed in a hurry in an intense fight. (watch MMA and boxers) Batman would be out of the fight in under a minute because Cap would be just as fresh as when it started. And that's not even getting into the fact that Cap is faster, stronger, and more durable. It really wouldn't be close. And this Big Blue Boy Scout doesn't have a weakness to green rocks.
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 14, 2017 20:44:34 GMT
"intent" is nice and all, but boy Cap certainly looks far more capable on screen. One of the main problems Batman would face in a fight with Cap is that Cap doesn't get tired. The most highly trained fighters in the world get gassed in a hurry in an intense fight. (watch MMA and boxers) Batman would be out of the fight in under a minute because Cap would be just as fresh as when it started. And that's not even getting into the fact that Cap is faster, stronger, and more durable. It really wouldn't be close. And this Big Blue Boy Scout doesn't have a weakness to green rocks. ...and being too stupid to beat Batman is a pretty big negative too.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 14, 2017 20:56:37 GMT
If we're talking comics, it's JL. Going by what we've seen in the movies so far, I'd have to say Avengers.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Nov 14, 2017 21:05:32 GMT
This is such a silly conversation.
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Post by merh on Nov 15, 2017 1:22:52 GMT
Cyborg not only can hack SHIELD, Cyborg can hack anything with an AI, including Tony's Iron Man suits. In baseball, some hitters (even if they're among the best hitters in the league, will always have 1 or 2 pitchers that they just can't hit because that 1 or 2 pitcher is just a really bad matchup for them. And that's how it is with Iron Man. Cyborg is just a really bad matchup for Iron Man because Cyborg can easily shut down the Iron Man suit. It's no different than Human Torch being a really bad matchup for Martian Manhunter.
Martian Manhunter is 1 of the most powerful superheroes but Martian Manhunter has no chance against Human Torch. Likewise, Iron Man has no chance against Cyborg, and only delusional MCU fans would think otherwise.]Cap is a strategist, dude. Like getting that flag no one else managed to. And yet, Cap had no strategy at all to defeat the Chitauri. If it weren't for the military and their nuclear missile, the Avengers wouldn't have been able to stop the Chitauri and the Chitauri would've taken over Manhattan. Also, Cap's strategy of having Scarlett Witch the bomb in the air was so brilliant that it cost many civilians in the building their lives. Those civilians weren't in any danger from Crossbones and wouldn't have died if not for Cap's brilliant strategy. LOL!!! Quicksilver is so "fast" that he's the 1st speedster in CBM history who can't catch a bullet in mid-air. Lol, he caught Mjolnir. He can catch bullets He was distracted saving lives
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 15, 2017 3:52:38 GMT
DC-Fan He would have his utility belt. I'm not sure what would be in there that would hinder Cap too much. A Bat-smoke grenade will have Cap gasping for air.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 15, 2017 3:55:31 GMT
DC-Fan He would have his utility belt. I'm not sure what would be in there that would hinder Cap too much. He could probably disorient him or catch him off guard but if Iron Man couldn't keep him down its unlikely Batman would. harpospoke Well Batman did single handedly take down a whole bunch of trained League of Shadow ninjas too. The choreography may not be up there but the intent is that he's supposed to be a great fighter. "intent" is nice and all, but boy Cap certainly looks far more capable on screen. One of the main problems Batman would face in a fight with Cap is that Cap doesn't get tired. The most highly trained fighters in the world get gassed in a hurry in an intense fight. (watch MMA and boxers) Batman would be out of the fight in under a minute because Cap would be just as fresh as when it started. And that's not even getting into the fact that Cap is faster, stronger, and more durable. It really wouldn't be close. You keep assuming it'll just be hand-to-hand combat. You forget that Batman has a utility belt full of gadgets and tools that he can use. Doesn't matter if Cap is faster, stronger, or more durable. Cap still needs to breathe. A Bat-Smoke grenade would put Cap out of the fight in under a minute.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 15, 2017 5:47:23 GMT
This is such a silly conversation. Agreed! We should be discussing Apes vs. Men!
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 15, 2017 5:48:18 GMT
"intent" is nice and all, but boy Cap certainly looks far more capable on screen. One of the main problems Batman would face in a fight with Cap is that Cap doesn't get tired. The most highly trained fighters in the world get gassed in a hurry in an intense fight. (watch MMA and boxers) Batman would be out of the fight in under a minute because Cap would be just as fresh as when it started. And that's not even getting into the fact that Cap is faster, stronger, and more durable. It really wouldn't be close. You keep assuming it'll just be hand-to-hand combat. You forget that Batman has a utility belt full of gadgets and tools that he can use. Doesn't matter if Cap is faster, stronger, or more durable. Cap still needs to breathe. A Bat-Smoke grenade would put Cap out of the fight in under a minute. Cap can actually hold his breath for a long time. Certainly enough time to get to Bats and take him out. One punch from a guy who can kick a car into someone and Batman is out of the fight. Or Cap just takes out Bats with his shield. Probably should put Batman up against Daredevil or something. That's a more even fight. They even both have pointy heads. Batman could actually win that one without the aid of DC writers turning his opponent into a moron.
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Post by poelzig on Nov 15, 2017 5:54:01 GMT
The Avengers are all standing around trying to come up with the most hilarious one liner about turds. Superman tosses them all into the sun. Fight over.
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 15, 2017 6:00:25 GMT
The Avengers are all standing around trying to come up with the most hilarious one liner about turds. Superman tosses them all into the sun. Fight over. Superman realizes Batman is in the room and forgets his name and falls down drooling.
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Post by poelzig on Nov 15, 2017 6:02:22 GMT
The Avengers are all standing around trying to come up with the most hilarious one liner about turds. Superman tosses them all into the sun. Fight over. Superman realizes Batman is in the room and forgets his name and falls down drooling. After all the Avengers have died in the sun.
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 15, 2017 6:06:59 GMT
Superman realizes Batman is in the room and forgets his name and falls down drooling. After all the Avengers have died in the sun. Well Supes is so dumb when Bats is around he would not know what direction the sun is in. He most likely buys the Avengers lunch at Subway and plays with a jump rope during the entire fight.
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Post by poelzig on Nov 15, 2017 6:29:56 GMT
After all the Avengers have died in the sun. Well Supes is so dumb when Bats is around he would not know what direction the sun is in. He most likely buys the Avengers lunch at Subway and plays with a jump rope during the entire fight. Now you're just being silly. I know you're grieving over the Avengers dying though so I'll cut you some slack. I have to ask. Were those turd jokes worth it?
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