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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 15, 2017 19:23:50 GMT
Now in complete fairness I will say right now, if Infinity War turns out to be the worst reviewed MCU film, yes, I'll be upset.
Justice League is supposed to be important to DC. This isn't a random show on Netflix. This is DC's crown jewel.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 15, 2017 19:26:17 GMT
Now in complete fairness I will say right now, if Infinity War turns out to be the worst reviewed MCU film, yes, I'll be upset.
Justice League is supposed to be important to DC. This isn't a random show on Netflix. This is DC's crown jewel.
The question has to be asked, how can the series continue like this? How much has this affected the long term value of the DC product? Stanton, you closeted troll! Remove this filth at once! Hee hee hee... |
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Nov 15, 2017 19:29:56 GMT
I don't like Metacritic. Their score system doesn't make sense. The Avengers has 69 on Metacritic with 32 positive, 10 mixed, and 1 negative. How does that add up to only a 69? Rotten Tomatoes has flaws in its scale too, but at least it makes more sense. They tally all the positive reviews, then divide them all by all the reviews and it gives them a percentage on how many critics gave it a fresh review.
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Post by scabab on Nov 15, 2017 19:30:23 GMT
It's actually at 54 right now.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 15, 2017 19:32:20 GMT
I don't like Metacritic. Their score system doesn't make sense. The Avengers has 69 on Metacritic with 32 positive, 10 mixed, and 1 negative. How does that add up to only a 69? Rotten Tomatoes has flaws in its scale too, but at least it makes more sense. They tally all the positive reviews, then divide them all by all the reviews and it gives them a percentage on how many critics gave it a fresh review. So you're saying you'd prefer a system where a film 100% of people voted a 6, would then be better than a film 99% of people voted a 10 with 1% giving it a 1? |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 15, 2017 19:32:43 GMT
It's actually at 54 right now. I'm just going by the site, but 54 doesn't really help matters. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 15, 2017 19:34:27 GMT
lol, the degree of obtuseness is staggering, yeah it has been on MC on 51% since 1 AM day, there are several threats dealing with that. 51% is not good, it's "mixed". Thor3 got 73% and Wonder Woman got 76% for comparison.
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Post by scabab on Nov 15, 2017 19:36:47 GMT
It's actually at 54 right now. I'm just going by the site, but 54 doesn't really help matters. The site hasn't updated the overall number just yet. A 54 is currently the exact same as Thor Dark World. The original Thor and Iron Man 2 scored a tad higher at 57. So it's about on par with those movies for the time being. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 19:38:28 GMT
It's actually at 54 right now. It's at a 51 for me |
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Post by scabab on Nov 15, 2017 19:39:53 GMT
It's actually at 54 right now. It's at a 51 for me You gotta add it up and divide it manually. There's 33 reviews now but it hasn't updated since at least 25 reviews. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 15, 2017 19:41:12 GMT
I'm just going by the site, but 54 doesn't really help matters. The site hasn't updated the overall number just yet. A 54 is currently the exact same as Thor Dark World. The original Thor and Iron Man 2 scored a tad higher at 57. So it's about on par with those movies for the time being. do you calculate the averages yourself? Adding new review %age to the division? Update: q answered. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 19:50:05 GMT
You gotta add it up and divide it manually. There's 33 reviews now but it hasn't updated since at least 25 reviews. Ah, good to know. Thanks. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 19:53:19 GMT
Why can anyone see the RT Score? I'm on the site, and don't see anything.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 15, 2017 20:02:35 GMT
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Post by Larcen26 on Nov 15, 2017 20:06:11 GMT
Now in complete fairness I will say right now, if Infinity War turns out to be the worst reviewed MCU film, yes, I'll be upset.
Justice League is supposed to be important to DC. This isn't a random show on Netflix. This is DC's crown jewel.
The question has to be asked, how can the series continue like this? How much has this affected the long term value of the DC product? The thing that is consistent between all of the reviews, positive and negative, is that everyone thinks it's a vast improvement in the right direction. It is a flawed film (how flawed depends on the reviewer), but most seem to agree that it finally gets the characters right (even Superman apparently) Most of the problems seem to stem from ham handed course corrections. It's going to make them money. It's going to make them tons of money. And while it's a step backward from Wonder Woman, it's a massive step forward in getting the universe right. So how can the series continue like this? Upwardly mobile while still financially viable? It can continue for a long time. How much has this affected the long term value of the DC Product? Positively. The best (paraphrased) quote I have seen is that its "like a flawed pilot of a TV show that I definitely want to keep watching." |
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Nov 15, 2017 20:06:54 GMT
I don't like Metacritic. Their score system doesn't make sense. The Avengers has 69 on Metacritic with 32 positive, 10 mixed, and 1 negative. How does that add up to only a 69? Rotten Tomatoes has flaws in its scale too, but at least it makes more sense. They tally all the positive reviews, then divide them all by all the reviews and it gives them a percentage on how many critics gave it a fresh review. So you're saying you'd prefer a system where a film 100% of people voted a 6, would then be better than a film 99% of people voted a 10 with 1% giving it a 1? Both systems have flaws. There's no right or wrong way to critique art. |
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 15, 2017 20:11:34 GMT
Now in complete fairness I will say right now, if Infinity War turns out to be the worst reviewed MCU film, yes, I'll be upset.
Justice League is supposed to be important to DC. This isn't a random show on Netflix. This is DC's crown jewel.
The question has to be asked, how can the series continue like this? How much has this affected the long term value of the DC product? The thing that is consistent between all of the reviews, positive and negative, is that everyone thinks it's a vast improvement in the right direction. It is a flawed film (how flawed depends on the reviewer), but most seem to agree that it finally gets the characters right (even Superman apparently) Most of the problems seem to stem from ham handed course corrections. It's going to make them money. It's going to make them tons of money. And while it's a step backward from Wonder Woman, it's a massive step forward in getting the universe right. So how can the series continue like this? Upwardly mobile while still financially viable? It can continue for a long time. How much has this affected the long term value of the DC Product? Positively. The best (paraphrased) quote I have seen is that its "like a flawed pilot of a TV show that I definitely want to keep watching." We are well beyond the pilot stage for the DCEU. |
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Post by Larcen26 on Nov 15, 2017 20:13:13 GMT
The thing that is consistent between all of the reviews, positive and negative, is that everyone thinks it's a vast improvement in the right direction. It is a flawed film (how flawed depends on the reviewer), but most seem to agree that it finally gets the characters right (even Superman apparently) Most of the problems seem to stem from ham handed course corrections. It's going to make them money. It's going to make them tons of money. And while it's a step backward from Wonder Woman, it's a massive step forward in getting the universe right. So how can the series continue like this? Upwardly mobile while still financially viable? It can continue for a long time. How much has this affected the long term value of the DC Product? Positively. The best (paraphrased) quote I have seen is that its "like a flawed pilot of a TV show that I definitely want to keep watching." We are well beyond the pilot stage for the DCEU. Never said we weren't. But the indications are that this film is the first step in finally getting these characters right. Especially if you combine it with Wonder Woman proving it can be done. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 15, 2017 20:13:55 GMT
I'm just going by the site, but 54 doesn't really help matters. The site hasn't updated the overall number just yet. A 54 is currently the exact same as Thor Dark World. The original Thor and Iron Man 2 scored a tad higher at 57. So it's about on par with those movies for the time being. Ok, so that's not really something to brag about is it?
Also I don't recall TDW having such a negative connotation even so. I mean just read what's being said about JL and compare that to TDW and it's pretty clear the more negative comments are with JL.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 15, 2017 20:17:52 GMT
We are well beyond the pilot stage for the DCEU. Never said we weren't. But the indications are that this film is the first step in finally getting these characters right. Especially if you combine it with Wonder Woman proving it can be done. I'm not making any judgments about the film because I haven't seen it. I will say that the humbling of the DCEU fandom is astounding to watch. The early narratives of prophesied supremacy and the constant, thunderous chest thumping have all been traded in for accepting scraps from WB's table... No disrespect intended - just an observation. |
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