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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 20, 2017 17:45:27 GMT
So MCU fans have been praising SMH and claiming that SMH is the most faithful adaptation to the comic-book Spider-Man. Well, in the comics, Aunt May was always an elderly woman and never got free meals from restaurant owners and Flash Thompson was a star player on the high school football team. So how was that a faithful adaptation of the comics?
In the comics, Peter's motivation for being a hero was because he learned (from not stopping the thief who would kill Uncle Ben) that he had a "great responsibility". In SMH, Peter's only motivation for being a hero is to impress Tony Stark. That's a shallow reason for being a hero and completely betrays the comic-book character. So SMH is the WORST Spider-Man movie adaptation ever.
Moreover, SMH isn't even a Spider-Man movie. Instead of using Spider-Sense (which Spider-Man clearly doesn't have in SMH since he got ambushed by a bad guy and needed Ned to save him which should never happen with Spider-Sense), Spider-Man uses AI suits made by Tony Stark, just like War Machine does. So SMH is really War Machine: Homecoming.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 20, 2017 18:09:51 GMT
You're wrong. I'm am an MCU fan, and I have not praised Spider-Man: Homecoming as THEE most faithful adaptation of the character. I have hailed the film as an enjoyable, update of the Spider-Man mythos which captures the spirit of the character without laboring over story beats that have been explored ad nauseum in previous films. You don't have to slavishly recreate the source material panel for panel every time a new reboot ships but, you do need to remind audiences why they love and care about the character - Spider-Man: Homecoming accomplishes this goal - in spades.
Maybe you should make another thread where you provide a credible explanation for Wonder Woman turning her back on mankind for 100 years.
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Post by DSDSquared on Nov 20, 2017 18:26:01 GMT
No one, who isn't a troll at least, would take TASM2 or SM3 over this. No one.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 18:33:12 GMT
And if we complain to Scabab, he'll do nothing, as usual.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 20, 2017 18:41:30 GMT
And if we complain to Scabab, he'll do nothing, as usual. DC-Fan is entitled to his opinion - extreme as it is. The fact that he invites others to refute his arguments suggests that he might not be as confident in his assertions as his "tough talk" would suggest.
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Post by charzhino on Nov 20, 2017 19:16:48 GMT
Theres nothing wrong with DC-fans claim of SMH being the worst Spiderman adaptation to date. Its perfectly reasonable.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 20, 2017 19:18:07 GMT
JL sucked.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Nov 20, 2017 21:09:25 GMT
Theres nothing wrong with DC-fans claim of SMH being the worst Spiderman adaptation to date. Its perfectly reasonable. True, just like there's nothing wrong with us claiming Batman v. Superman is one of the worst superhero adaptations to date. It's perfectly reasonable.
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Post by politicidal on Nov 20, 2017 21:30:45 GMT
Hardly. Ever seen the Turkish movie from the 1970s? He's a villainous thief and murderer.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 20, 2017 21:54:44 GMT
Theres nothing wrong with DC-fans claim of SMH being the worst Spiderman adaptation to date. Its perfectly reasonable. Thing is, DC-Fan has proven on many occasion to be a troll who is very anti-Marvel Cinematic Universe and has made some of the worst, most childish, most inane threads and comments directed towards the company, their products, and most of all their fan base. And all of it is just to escalate this ridiculous 'DC vs. Marvel' garbage that has done nobody any favors here or on the internet in general. DC-Fan has gone so low as to accuse fans of the MCU as being haters of soldiers in the United States military who served or are still in active service. Many have tried to reason with him, correct him, and call him out on his garbage but he doesn't change and ignores all reasonable criticism, and continues to exist in his own little bubble of ignorance and immaturity. He also doesn't even go to the movies, he pirates bootleg copies online, which says even more about him. DC-Fan does not deserve any respect or support here.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 22:11:21 GMT
Theres nothing wrong with DC-fans claim of SMH being the worst Spiderman adaptation to date. Its perfectly reasonable. Thing is, DC-Fan has proven on many occasion to be a troll who is very anti-Marvel Cinematic Universe and has made some of the worst, most childish, most inane threads and comments directed towards the company, their products, and most of all their fan base. And all of it is just to escalate this ridiculous 'DC vs. Marvel' garbage that has done nobody any favors here or on the internet in general. DC-Fan has gone so low as to accuse fans of the MCU as being haters of soldiers in the United States military who served or are still in active service. Many have tried to reason with him, correct him, and call him out on his garbage but he doesn't change and ignores all reasonable criticism, and continues to exist in his own little bubble of ignorance and immaturity. He also doesn't even go to the movies, he pirates bootleg copies online, which says even more about him. DC-Fan does not deserve any respect or support here. Agreed.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 20, 2017 22:12:34 GMT
Now if only a certain worthless scabby Mod could only see that. As it was said above DC Fan is free to think it's the worst Spider-man adaptation if that's his opinion. Even when it's blatant trolling?
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Post by scabab on Nov 20, 2017 22:22:53 GMT
As it was said above DC Fan is free to think it's the worst Spider-man adaptation if that's his opinion. Even when it's blatant trolling? He's not hurting anybody, he's not insulting anybody or affecting anybody in anyway. He doesn't like Spider-man Homecoming and thinks it's worst adaptation ever. It's an overly extreme opinion I guess but it is opinion. If he doesn't like it then he doesn't like it.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Nov 20, 2017 22:39:11 GMT
Why don't you all just block DC-Fan like I did a long time ago?
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 20, 2017 22:42:54 GMT
Even when it's blatant trolling? He's not hurting anybody, he's not insulting anybody or affecting anybody in anyway. He doesn't like Spider-man Homecoming and thinks it's worst adaptation ever. It's an overly extreme opinion I guess but it is opinion. If he doesn't like it then he doesn't like it. And if anyone put up a thread pointing out all the flaws in the Dark Knight movies...?
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Nov 20, 2017 22:50:13 GMT
Technically speaking, he did not become a hero because his uncle died. In the original comic he started to catch villains to get publicity pics to sell to Jameson.
The guilt complex didnt start until around issue 50.
The line "with great power comes great responsibility" doesn't really make sense in the context of the origin story--because all he had to do to stop the burglar was stick his foot out or stand in front of him. It didnt require any super powers so why would great power-great responsibility factor into it? He refused to help a cop.
These days he would be applauded as an antifa hero for not only letting the crook go, and not helping the police, but also helping to rub out an elderly white working class man!
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Post by scabab on Nov 20, 2017 22:53:43 GMT
And if anyone put up a thread pointing out all the flaws in the Dark Knight movies...? Then the exact same thing applies. You could go over to the DC board right now and make a thread explaining why you think it's the worst movie of all time and the only people who would be in the wrong would be those who insulted you for having that opinion. There will be no favouritism here.
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Post by damngumby on Nov 20, 2017 22:57:55 GMT
Comic book geeks can argue among themselves whether SMH was a "faithful adaptation" of the original comic book.
The rest of us don't really care.
What we know is it was an entertaining movie that beat the best effort from that other comic book company, both critically* and at the box office.
* Though it did fall a tad short on one best of list ... that ranked Thor:Ragnarok over The Dark Knight. So take that for what it's worth.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 20, 2017 23:43:19 GMT
I don't get this controversy over Aunt May being younger. I have a Aunt that's in her 40's! How is this unrealistic?!
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 21, 2017 0:37:39 GMT
I don't get this controversy over Aunt May being younger. I have a Aunt that's in her 40's! How is this unrealistic?! It's not. Just like how Martha Kent isn't all that old looking in the DCEU, but no one cares there.
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