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Post by harpospoke on Nov 23, 2017 21:16:17 GMT
Oh...just watched an interview with the star of Supergirl and she is incredibly genuine and likable.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 23, 2017 21:18:07 GMT
Why exactly do people always fall back on the “critics liked/didn’t like this for political reasons” excuse? The moment I saw the title of this thread, I knew that people were gonna start playing politics. It's no secret that the majority of the media lean to the left. And they are not very good at suppressing the bias either. A show like Punisher is going to have a disadvantage. I can see from the first 4 episodes that it's a show that will appeal more to right wing viewers. Aren’t movies like American Sniper certified fresh on Rotten Tomatoes? |
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 24, 2017 2:33:47 GMT
It's no secret that the majority of the media lean to the left. And they are not very good at suppressing the bias either. A show like Punisher is going to have a disadvantage. I can see from the first 4 episodes that it's a show that will appeal more to right wing viewers. Aren’t movies like American Sniper certified fresh on Rotten Tomatoes? It came out before the recent crazed gunman scare. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 24, 2017 2:41:20 GMT
Aren’t movies like American Sniper certified fresh on Rotten Tomatoes? It came out before the recent crazed gunman scare. There were already notable mass shootings before that movie came out, such as the Sandy Hook Masscare and the Aurora theater shootings. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 24, 2017 2:44:48 GMT
It came out before the recent crazed gunman scare. There were already notable mass shootings before that movie came out, such as the Sandy Hook Masscare and the Aurora theater shootings. The environment still wasn't as bad as it is now. The Las Vegas shooting really shocked people worse than those prior ones did. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 24, 2017 3:30:28 GMT
There were already notable mass shootings before that movie came out, such as the Sandy Hook Masscare and the Aurora theater shootings. The environment still wasn't as bad as it is now. The Las Vegas shooting really shocked people worse than those prior ones did. There has always been a negative environment surrounding guns. Gun control didn’t suddenly appear out of nowhere these past couple of months. You need to stop coming up with excuses to justify the critic scores for every Marvel product and DC product. It’s ridiculous. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 24, 2017 3:32:43 GMT
The environment still wasn't as bad as it is now. The Las Vegas shooting really shocked people worse than those prior ones did. There has always been a negative environment surrounding guns. Gun control didn’t suddenly appear out of nowhere these past couple of months. You need to stop coming up with excuses to justify the critic scores for every Marvel product and DC product. It’s ridiculous. People loved him in Daredevil, so something changed between now and then. |
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 24, 2017 3:38:21 GMT
It's no secret that the majority of the media lean to the left. And they are not very good at suppressing the bias either. A show like Punisher is going to have a disadvantage. I can see from the first 4 episodes that it's a show that will appeal more to right wing viewers. Aren’t movies like American Sniper certified fresh on Rotten Tomatoes? Yep...with a 72% score. A movie that the public loved and was the top grossing movie of 2014. Punisher got a 61% (also fresh) score so the same problem occurred except of course SJWs are even more fired up about it now. Just go watch an interview with Melissa Benoist and see if you can find one where they DON'T bring up the " it's awesome that the show is about a female super hero" angle. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 24, 2017 3:42:14 GMT
There has always been a negative environment surrounding guns. Gun control didn’t suddenly appear out of nowhere these past couple of months. You need to stop coming up with excuses to justify the critic scores for every Marvel product and DC product. It’s ridiculous. People loved him in Daredevil, so something changed between now and then. If you want to get technical, season 2 of DD has a 74% in RT. Also, a character being well received in one show doesn’t mean their own show will be well received. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 24, 2017 3:43:41 GMT
Aren’t movies like American Sniper certified fresh on Rotten Tomatoes? Yep...with a 72% score. A movie that the public loved and was the top grossing movie of 2014. Punisher got a 61% (also fresh) score so the same problem occurred except of course SJWs are even more fired up about it now. Just go watch an interview with Melissa Benoist and see if you can find one where they DON'T bring up the " it's awesome that the show is about a female super hero" angle. Exactly what kind of score was American Sniper supposed to get, especially when it was relentlessly mocked for the fake baby scene? Seriously, you need to stop with the excuses. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 24, 2017 4:47:07 GMT
People loved him in Daredevil, so something changed between now and then. Also, a character being well received in one show doesn’t mean their own show will be well received. That's correct. Look at Matt LeBlanc's character from Friends. After Friends, he got his own show, Joey. That got cancelled after 2 seasons. |
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Post by harpospoke on Nov 24, 2017 5:07:25 GMT
Yep...with a 72% score. A movie that the public loved and was the top grossing movie of 2014. Punisher got a 61% (also fresh) score so the same problem occurred except of course SJWs are even more fired up about it now. Just go watch an interview with Melissa Benoist and see if you can find one where they DON'T bring up the " it's awesome that the show is about a female super hero" angle. Exactly what kind of score was American Sniper supposed to get, especially when it was relentlessly mocked for the fake baby scene? Seriously, you need to stop with the excuses. Well make up your mind on American Sniper...you were holding it up as proof that critics threw love at a property centered around gun violence. ....Now that you see they really didn't praise it that much you want to paint it as a bad movie? Sounds like another gun centered property being attacked to me. It's not much of an "excuse" when that is the reality. The media is dominated by left wing individuals. Conservatives apparently aren't interested in pursuing that field. (Exactly like very few Liberals pursue a career in law enforcement and the military) I would say the same if the overwhelming majority of the media and critics were right wing. Of course they would show their bias in their reviews just like left wingers do. (Check out Fox News) There is no objectivity any more. There are some right wing critics for certain websites...check out their reviews for movies with Liberal subject matter and tell me there isn't an effect. ...Or would that be an "excuse"? |
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Post by sostie on Nov 24, 2017 9:47:35 GMT
Oh...just watched an interview with the star of Supergirl and she is incredibly genuine and likable. Her dirty pics are very likeable |
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Post by miike80 on Nov 24, 2017 9:55:23 GMT
Oh...just watched an interview with the star of Supergirl and she is incredibly genuine and likable. she's the only reason i might pop up once in a while an episode of Supergirl |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 12:02:04 GMT
The news about Joss Whedon being fired from 'Batgirl' was a load of crap and proven to be false. It is the same as all the rumours about 'Wonder Woman' being cancelled last year and 'Gotham City Sirens' being cancelled which David Ayer had to publicly deny three times and is most likely made up by guys who don't want female superhero movies. It is sad how threatened some people are over female lead movies...  They really could just combine Batgirl with Gotham City Sirens.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 12:11:02 GMT
The news about Joss Whedon being fired from 'Batgirl' was a load of crap and proven to be false. It is the same as all the rumours about 'Wonder Woman' being cancelled last year and 'Gotham City Sirens' being cancelled which David Ayer had to publicly deny three times and is most likely made up by guys who don't want female superhero movies. It is sad how threatened some people are over female lead movies... I don't think there ever was going to be a Batgirl movie. I've always thought it was a cover for him working secretly on Justice League. When it came out that Snyder was leaving Justice League there was no reason to keep Whedon working on Justice League a secret anymore. Notice there was no talk of Batgirl since their announcement of him doing it. I mean, saying he's making a Batgirl movie was only because she was the most likely character for him to do. She's the most Buffy character. And she was small enough that it wouldn't hurt most fans. Compare that to saying he was going to do a Green Lantern or Catwoman or even a Supergirl movie. 
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 24, 2017 12:26:45 GMT
Three things that could contribute to the show rating:
Slow pacing
unnecessary subplots (Lewis progun crusade for example)
Lack of action, especially since the marketing made it look like it was a action packed show.
The Current political climate may be a little factor as well, especially since since a few written reviews brought up the "angry white man shooting people" and how it's very Problematic. But that's just how it is anymore.
Critics can say whatever they want because usually what they hate, I like anyway (This show, Man of Steel,ect)
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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 24, 2017 13:28:27 GMT
Exactly what kind of score was American Sniper supposed to get, especially when it was relentlessly mocked for the fake baby scene? Seriously, you need to stop with the excuses. Well make up your mind on American Sniper...you were holding it up as proof that critics threw love at a property centered around gun violence. ....Now that you see they really didn't praise it that much you want to paint it as a bad movie? Sounds like another gun centered property being attacked to me. It's not much of an "excuse" when that is the reality. The media is dominated by left wing individuals. Conservatives apparently aren't interested in pursuing that field. (Exactly like very few Liberals pursue a career in law enforcement and the military) I would say the same if the overwhelming majority of the media and critics were right wing. Of course they would show their bias in their reviews just like left wingers do. (Check out Fox News) There is no objectivity any more. There are some right wing critics for certain websites...check out their reviews for movies with Liberal subject matter and tell me there isn't an effect. ...Or would that be an "excuse"? I wasn’t painting anything as a bad movie. You were the one who seemed to suggest that American Sniper was given a lower rating than it should have because critics had some Liberal bias. |
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Post by NewtJorden on Nov 24, 2017 15:41:37 GMT
^ I personally prefer Melissa Benoist. I think Melissa is the 3rd sexiest actress in Supergirl. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Nov 24, 2017 16:24:19 GMT
^ I personally prefer Melissa Benoist. I think Melissa is the 3rd sexiest actress in Supergirl. Behind Oddette Annable and Sharon Leal? |
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