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Post by sdrew13163 on Jan 13, 2018 5:25:18 GMT
Its no shock that TDK is #1. Dead actors have that effect, even 10 years later. 9/10 on IMDb 94% on RT 96% Google user rating 82% on Metacritic Over $1 billion BO gross One actor's death might be able to get a fourth of that by itself. The fact that the movie is great is why it is the most influential and well-loved movie of the 21st Century.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 6:06:21 GMT
I like Batman Begins more. Together with Logan and Winter Soldier would it be in my top 3.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 6:24:06 GMT
I like Batman Begins more. Together with Logan and Winter Soldier would it be in my top 3. A lot of people like Batman Begins more because it's more of Batman's movie compared to TDK which many people feel is a Joker movie featuring Batman. Not saying this is why you like it more or anything just saying this to share an opinion on why I like TDK more. I like TDK more because of the focus on The Joker. For me personally, I've never found the character of Batman interesting so his origin story in Begins didn't interest me much like Cap The First Avenger didn't interest me. While I do not find Batman himself interesting the Gotham City around him I do find interesting mostly it's cast of villains. So the reason why TDK was so good for me was because of Ledger's Joker. However when I do rewatch that film I do just want to fast forward until I get to Joker scenes.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 13, 2018 7:10:59 GMT
Dead actors have that effect, even 10 years later. 9/10 on IMDb 94% on RT 96% Google user rating 82% on Metacritic Over $1 billion BO gross One actor's death might be able to get a fourth of that by itself. The fact that the movie is great is why it is the most influential and well-loved movie of the 21st Century. formersamhmd is a jealous MCU fan who hates any superhero movies not made by MCU so he continually has to exploit a young actor's death as the reason why The Dark Knight is better than every MCU movie and has to continually claim artificial boosters as the reason why Wonder Woman is better than every MCU movie and getting so much awards recognition.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 9:55:28 GMT
I like Batman Begins more. Together with Logan and Winter Soldier would it be in my top 3. A lot of people like Batman Begins more because it's more of Batman's movie compared to TDK which many people feel is a Joker movie featuring Batman. Not saying this is why you like it more or anything just saying this to share an opinion on why I like TDK more. I like TDK more because of the focus on The Joker. For me personally, I've never found the character of Batman interesting so his origin story in Begins didn't interest me much like Cap The First Avenger didn't interest me. While I do not find Batman himself interesting the Gotham City around him I do find interesting mostly it's cast of villains. So the reason why TDK was so good for me was because of Ledger's Joker. However when I do rewatch that film I do just want to fast forward until I get to Joker scenes. Even though Ledger's performance was fine The Joker was to me the weakest part of the film. He was just doing stuff without any plan. So it actually meant nothing. To me the villain was a joke and nothing to be taken seriously. I just couldnt get engaged in this movie.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 10:46:13 GMT
A lot of people like Batman Begins more because it's more of Batman's movie compared to TDK which many people feel is a Joker movie featuring Batman. Not saying this is why you like it more or anything just saying this to share an opinion on why I like TDK more. I like TDK more because of the focus on The Joker. For me personally, I've never found the character of Batman interesting so his origin story in Begins didn't interest me much like Cap The First Avenger didn't interest me. While I do not find Batman himself interesting the Gotham City around him I do find interesting mostly it's cast of villains. So the reason why TDK was so good for me was because of Ledger's Joker. However when I do rewatch that film I do just want to fast forward until I get to Joker scenes. Even though Ledger's performance was fine The Joker was to me the weakest part of the film. He was just doing stuff without any plan. So it actually meant nothing. To me the villain was a joke and nothing to be taken seriously. I just couldnt get engaged in this movie. All good. Your opinion is your opinion. For me? Ledger's performance as The Joker for me is one of the best performances in movie history. Very little times do I look at a film and just say "that performance made the film". Ledger's Joker did that. I've been a fan of Ledger since 10 Things I Hate About You. The fact that he died not long after I'd be stupid to say it didn't factor into things. It just makes somebody like me appreciate the performance more. So in the end, Ledger's Joker makes the film for me. Take him out? I wouldn't give a shit about TDK. I just respect that Ledger performance so much that I rate that film highly. I perfectly understand why others don't though.
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Post by scabab on Jan 13, 2018 11:04:47 GMT
Of course The Dark Knight was #1, it was always going to be #1.
There won't ever be a superhero movie again that will be as good as it. There's been 49 superhero movies that have released since The Dark Knight and not one of them has been nearly as good.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 11:29:18 GMT
Of course The Dark Knight was #1, it was always going to be #1. There won't ever be a superhero movie again that will be as good as it. There's been 49 superhero movies that have released since The Dark Knight and not one of them has been nearly as good. God posts like this are a huge pet peeve of mine. You claim that there "won't ever be a superhero movie again that will be as good as it." I'm sorry? Can you see the future?! I hate shit like this. Like, oh hey, nobody will be as good as Michael Jordan. Please, tell me...in 200 years is this true? The same thing goes for people saying things like "everyone is going to see The Last Jedi". No....no they're not. I sure as hell didn't go see it. Just a ton of people went to see the thing multiple times because of an obsession that I'll never have in regards to anything. So, the fact that you're saying "there won't ever be a superhero movie again that will be as good as it." is just as dumb as saying "Everyone saw said movie." Stop making said statements like they are fact when literally they are just random opinions. I HATE people trying to spew their own opinions as facts.
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Post by scabab on Jan 13, 2018 12:42:50 GMT
So, the fact that you're saying "there won't ever be a superhero movie again that will be as good as it." is just as dumb as saying "Everyone saw said movie." It's dumb until proven otherwise. In the past 10 years since it released 49 other movies have come out and been inferior. Even if by some small miracle a superhero does come out that is better than The Dark Knight you would have long forgot that I ever said this. This board might not even exist by then.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 13, 2018 13:10:12 GMT
Dead actors have that effect, even 10 years later. 9/10 on IMDb 94% on RT 96% Google user rating 82% on Metacritic Over $1 billion BO gross One actor's death And the way it was exploited as well. It made it bad taste to criticize the film or point out its flaws. They exploited a young man's death.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 13:14:17 GMT
So, the fact that you're saying "there won't ever be a superhero movie again that will be as good as it." is just as dumb as saying "Everyone saw said movie." It's dumb until proven otherwise. In the past 10 years since it released 49 other movies have come out and been inferior. Even if by some small miracle a superhero does come out that is better than The Dark Knight you would have long forgot that I ever said this. This board might not even exist by then. Lol there have been a lot more better suoerhero movies since TDK came out. Even WW which I think is not that great is better. At least the villain had a plan and therefor a purpose for being in the movie. At least ten of the MCU movies are better imo. First Class came out after TDK. Logan did. Both I hold in higher regard than TDK. But that is just my opinion.
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Post by hobowar on Jan 13, 2018 16:30:10 GMT
Avengers did a lot more for superhero movies that any other movie. I can't see anyone trying to make the next Logan any time soon.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jan 13, 2018 16:42:53 GMT
So, the fact that you're saying "there won't ever be a superhero movie again that will be as good as it." is just as dumb as saying "Everyone saw said movie." It's dumb until proven otherwise. In the past 10 years since it released 49 other movies have come out and been inferior. Even if by some small miracle a superhero does come out that is better than The Dark Knight you would have long forgot that I ever said this. This board might not even exist by then. ^ I don't particularly like TDK, and prefer the original TDK Returns or Watchmen or even Logan and WW over it. But TDK is undisputedly THE genre transcending bona fide CBM classic that everybody regards as the legacy masterpiece. It means for CBM the same as Citizen Kane for Drama or Star Wars for B-movie franchises. As evidenced by the fact that it sits (completely overrated) at 4 (!) in the Top 250 charts, is on every chart one of the best reviewed CBMs ever and the Ledger-Joker is considered Nr 1 villain. www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/the-best-movie-villains-of-all-timeYou do not have to like that or agree, but you should accept this fact.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jan 13, 2018 17:09:33 GMT
Of course The Dark Knight was #1, it was always going to be #1. There won't ever be a superhero movie again that will be as good as it. There's been 49 superhero movies that have released since The Dark Knight and not one of them has been nearly as good. That's not really true. I would put the likes of the first Iron Man, Winter Soldier, The Avengers, Logan, X2, (even the first one as well) Spider-Man 2. I think people forget, but The Dark Knight is only as good as it is because of Heath Ledger's performance as the Joker. There's nothing wrong with that, but there are some problems and contrivance to the overall story. But I would put Ian McKellen's performance as Magneto on the same level as Heath Ledger, same with Alfred Molina Doctor Octopus. I think they all did something for the superhero genre for their time when they were released and are all on the same level as each other
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 13, 2018 19:53:58 GMT
It's dumb until proven otherwise. In the past 10 years since it released 49 other movies have come out and been inferior. Even if by some small miracle a superhero does come out that is better than The Dark Knight you would have long forgot that I ever said this. This board might not even exist by then. At least ten of the MCU movies are better imo. Nope. The Dark Knight is better than ALL MCU movies.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 13, 2018 19:55:59 GMT
It's dumb until proven otherwise. In the past 10 years since it released 49 other movies have come out and been inferior. Even if by some small miracle a superhero does come out that is better than The Dark Knight you would have long forgot that I ever said this. This board might not even exist by then. ^ I don't particularly like TDK, and prefer the original TDK Returns or Watchmen or even Logan and WW over it. But TDK is undisputedly THE genre transcending bona fide CBM classic that everybody regards as the legacy masterpiece. It means for CBM the same as Citizen Kane for Drama or Star Wars for B-movie franchises. As evidenced by the fact that it sits (completely overrated) at 4 (!) in the Top 250 charts, is on every chart one of the best reviewed CBMs ever and the Ledger-Joker is considered Nr 1 villain. www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/the-best-movie-villains-of-all-timeYou do not have to like that or agree, but you should accept this fact. That's correct. The Dark Knight is basically The Godfather of superhero movies. Nothing from MCU, which has never produced a masterpiece, even comes close to The Dark Knight.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 13, 2018 19:59:20 GMT
Avengers did a lot more for superhero movies that any other movie. I can't see anyone trying to make the next Logan any time soon. To borrow a quote from Luke Skywalker in The Last Jedi, everything you said is completely wrong. Superman: The Movie did more for superhero movies than any other movie. Without Superman: The Movie, there's no Iron Man, no The Avengers, no MCU, no other big-budget superhero movies at all.
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Post by hobowar on Jan 13, 2018 20:05:23 GMT
DC-Fan do you the we'll get another cbm like Logan in the future? And don't you agree that films Days of Future Past and Batman v Superman owe their existence to Marvel Studios?
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 13, 2018 20:10:31 GMT
DC-Fan do you the we'll get another cbm like Logan in the future? With Disney buying Fox, it's unlikely since MCU never takes any risks with their cookie-cutter, assembly-line movies. And all that blood is too scary for the kiddies who watch MCU movies. don't you agree that films Days of Future Past and Batman v Superman owe their existence to Marvel Studios? No, Days of Future Past and BvS owe their existence to Superman: The Movie, just like Marvel Studios owes its existence to Superman: The Movie. Without Superman: The Movie, there's no Days of Future Past or BvS or even Marvel Studios and MCU.
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Post by charzhino on Jan 13, 2018 20:38:38 GMT
DC-Fan do you the we'll get another cbm like Logan in the future? And don't you agree that films Days of Future Past and Batman v Superman owe their existence to Marvel Studios? Days of Future Past owes its existence to Marvel studio's? How the hell did you derive that. If anything, the entire MCU owes its existence to Bryan Singer and Xmen 1.
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