geralmar
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Post by geralmar on Jan 27, 2018 6:46:55 GMT
I was surprised that such a race conscious movie would include a stereotypical black comedy relief. Was it to make blacks less threatening? Is the director really black?
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Post by poelzig on Jan 27, 2018 6:52:37 GMT
80% is closer to correct. Maybe it's unfair but when a movie's "influences" are painfully obvious I tend to deduct more points. I'm going out on a limb and guess you're a horror fan. How do you feel about RT listing it as the BEST horror movie of all time? Yes. Not even a year old but it's THE GREATEST HORROR MOVIE EVER!!!!!!!!!! according to RT. I know you didn't ask me, but I'd like to answer as a consecrated horror fan: THAT DISTINCTION IS BULLSHIT!!!I love the genre and it is an insult, a slap to the face of horror fans. I agree. The whole list is a joke. Other proof it was created by non horror movie fans? The Texas Chainsaw Massacre is #62. The Exorcist is #67. About half the list is from the 2000's including The Babadook at #9 & It Follows at #11. Casper the Friendly Ghost with Christina Ricci was #4. Okay that last one was a joke but still. WTF??!!!!!
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Post by poelzig on Jan 27, 2018 6:59:52 GMT
I was surprised that such a race conscious movie would include a stereotypical black comedy relief. Was it to make blacks less threatening? Is the director really black? No he's kind of light skinned.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Jan 27, 2018 7:07:42 GMT
I know you didn't ask me, but I'd like to answer as a consecrated horror fan: THAT DISTINCTION IS BULLSHIT!!!I love the genre and it is an insult, a slap to the face of horror fans. I agree. The whole list is a joke. Other proof it was created by non horror movie fans? The Texas Chainsaw Massacre is #62. The Exorcist is #67. About half the list is from the 2000's including The Babadook at #9 & It Follows at #11. Casper the Friendly Ghost with Christina Ricci was #4. Okay that last one was a joke but still. WTF??!!!!! FUCK RT!!
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Post by fartyfartsalot on Jan 27, 2018 7:42:34 GMT
Is "Get Out" better than "The Conjuring"?
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Post by mslo79 on Jan 27, 2018 7:51:54 GMT
Toasted CheeseI don't really view things as trying to find a 'balance', even though I can see your general point on some level and may agree to some degree because if you take things to a extreme (especially with liberals) things tend to go off the rails. but anyways, I see things more in terms of right or wrong (as some issues are like this)... many key things liberals support on a moral level go against God (i.e. The Holy Trinity(Father/Son(Jesus Christ)/Holy Spirit)) which is one of the major reasons I am conservative as conservative views tend to be more inline with God than liberal views. because if liberals can't even get some basic life issues right(i.e. abortion etc), it's not surprising they will be backwards in many other moral areas etc. because once people start drifting too far away from God's way of living society tends to break down and people start making up their own definitions of right and wrong and when that happens, the moral decline of society begins. basically conservative values work better long term than liberal views (but apparently many have to to learn this lesson the hard way). there might be some stuff that's okay on the liberal side, but overall conservative values are better. I know people around here will disagree with me (and apparently you will to given you said your more liberal than conservative) but when it comes to God it would be hard to go against what I say on the abortion issue alone as that's a red flag there which puts things already in conservative favor. hell, while I am not expert on politics... off the top of my head, conservatives and liberals say 50+ years ago were probably not that far apart but in more recent times it's mainly the liberals that went off the rails from those more old days moral standards. either way, even though your mostly liberal... you appear to be not too far off the rails like many liberals are nowadays. so I got to give you at least some credit I am not saying conservatives are perfect and that every liberal is evil, as we are all sinners etc, but you get the gist Ill also say this, I am a Catholic... sadly, some "Catholics" are liberal as I don't see how anyone claiming to be a true Catholic who generally follows the teachings of the Church could be liberal. I know technically the Church don't tell people who to vote for either way, but it's pretty obvious conservative/traditional/moral values are more inline with Church teachings than liberal views are which tend to be the opposite in key areas like abortion and like I always say if someone can't even get that issue right it's not surprising they are backwards in many other moral areas. basically liberals put a persons "choice" higher than a persons right to life when it should be the other way around. they sugar coat a gravely immoral/evil thing(abortion) as a "choice" when it's a basic life issue as once people start disposing of human life through abortion like it's no big deal (like some liberals do) then it's just that much easier for them to go off the rails when they start down that line of thinking because human life has less value to them. I know democrats might say something like, 'we are just giving someone the option for abortion, as it's their choice, but we might not necessarily support it etc'. but I figure why make it easier for someone to kill their own baby because at the end of the day making it easy for someone to kill their own baby, which is what abortion does, can't be a good thing for society when there is a basic lack of respect for human life at it's most innocent like that. it just opens the door for further moral decline when someone don't grasp the basics on protecting human life there. just some thoughts
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Post by mslo79 on Jan 27, 2018 7:53:01 GMT
Is "Get Out" better than "The Conjuring"? for me, no. -The Conjuring = 6/10 (a mild Thumbs Up) -Get Out = 5/10 (Thumbs Down) p.s. I have seen The Conjuring twice. for the record... I did not care for the second movie.
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Post by darkpast on Jan 27, 2018 8:08:22 GMT
100%
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Post by Morgana on Jan 27, 2018 10:32:35 GMT
Not only is the plot almost identical to other movies, but I think we all know why it was nominated to the Osxars in the first place. I enjoyed it, but I don't think it deserves all the praise it's getting.
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Post by kingkoopa on Jan 27, 2018 10:56:15 GMT
I saw it for the first time a few months ago. My reaction was "meh, that was alright...pretty good in places."
(quietly in his laboratory, kingkoopa reads the internet..."best ever," "genius," "revolutionary...")
I had to watch it again to try and find what I was missing. My reaction was the same as the first...pretty good movie, but I don't get the fuss. The premise is interesting, but the execution lacks a lot of subtlety that could have made it even better. The acting and directing is great...I just felt like I was being led by the hand through a story that I was perfectly capable of understanding on my own.
The true bummer about "Get Out" is that I don't think Peele intended it to have the effect that it did. In some ways it reminded me of Kevin Smith's "Red State." The socio-political reaction was such a distraction to the film itself. Peele, to me, was trying to tell a story from a seldom seen perspective. He made a great film. Oscar-worthy? Best horror ever? Nope.
Still a good movie...not a life-changer...why can't it just be a good movie? Where did all this over-hyping come from from critics and reviewers? It was just a pretty good movie...
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Post by Eλευθερί on Jan 27, 2018 13:44:10 GMT
Most of them totally missed the point of the movie anyway. Not a surprise. The irony of this post.
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Post by Eλευθερί on Jan 27, 2018 13:58:44 GMT
Not only is the plot almost identical to other movies Get Out is not a bad film but it's very derivative. One part Stepford Wives mixed with one part Skeleton Key and one part Invasion of the Body Snatchers and sprinkle liberally (get it) with any number of body swap against your will films Maybe it's unfair but when a movie's "influences" are painfully obvious I tend to deduct more points. Y'all are familiar with the concept of homage, aren't you? Peele is very clear on the DVD commentary and in interviews about a lot of the other films he was very consciously paying respect to.
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Post by James on Jan 27, 2018 15:22:04 GMT
Not really. IMO it's a great thriller regardless if it is similar to other films plotwise. The only thing I can disagree with is the shockingly high percentage RT has given it. 99%?!? It's more of 80% to me. 80% is closer to correct. Maybe it's unfair but when a movie's "influences" are painfully obvious I tend to deduct more points. I'm going out on a limb and guess you're a horror fan. How do you feel about RT listing it as the BEST horror movie of all time? Yes. Not even a year old but it's THE GREATEST HORROR MOVIE EVER!!!!!!!!!! according to RT. That's just absurd. And yes, I am a horror fan. Halloween (1978) is the greatest horror film of all time, to me.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Jan 27, 2018 15:53:52 GMT
Where did all this over-hyping come from from critics and reviewers? It was just a pretty good movie... It had to be praised as the greatest movie of all time, look what happens when you dare criticize a movie like this, you either don't get it or you're racist. Same happened w Ghostbusters 16' it HAD TO be praised. In reality critics have no balls.
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Post by faustus5 on Jan 27, 2018 16:19:52 GMT
Most of them totally missed the point of the movie anyway. Not a surprise. The irony of this post. poelzig isn't exactly the brightest of the posters around here. . . .
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 27, 2018 16:26:16 GMT
Yes, but it IS still a very good movie imo.
It may have a similar basic plot as other movies, but it is actually better than most of the movies it is similar to and not just because of the social satire.
I love horror movies of this type and if the movie was just a horror comedy without the race stuff I would still like it a lot. Jordan Peele's directing is excellent.
I have no idea why people are talking about white guilt. The movie is poking fun at all of that stuff and never means anything in any serious way. I never once felt like Jordan Peele was trying to guilt trip me because I am white.
I think that the two opposite sides of the spectrum are the ones reacting to the movie in an extreme way. One side are rating it very highly ONLY because it is about race (rather than simply because it is a good movie) and the other side dislike the movie in response to that. The people in the middle are the ones who seem to be able to appreciate the movie in the right way. The people on the opposite sides of the extremes can't seem to understand that some people just like the movie because it is a clever horror satire and not because of what it is satirizing.
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 27, 2018 16:42:31 GMT
Where did all this over-hyping come from from critics and reviewers? It was just a pretty good movie... It had to be praised as the greatest movie of all time, look what happens when you dare criticize a movie like this, you either don't get it or you're racist. Same happened w Ghostbusters 16' it HAD TO be praised. In reality critics have no balls. I wouldn't say that Ghostbusters was praised by critics, but a 75% is still way too high. Peter Travers, who is usually a sucker for this stuff, still couldn't bring himself to rate it 3/4 stars.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Jan 27, 2018 18:26:17 GMT
It had to be praised as the greatest movie of all time, look what happens when you dare criticize a movie like this, you either don't get it or you're racist. Same happened w Ghostbusters 16' it HAD TO be praised. In reality critics have no balls. I wouldn't say that Ghostbusters was praised by critics, but a 75% is still way too high. Peter Travers, who is usually a sucker for this stuff, still couldn't bring himself to rate it 3/4 stars. With all due respect, if you read the RT reviews they're "fresh" but no one says is more than mediocre. How good did it do, tho? As the movie tanked to the bottomless pit,
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 27, 2018 18:41:14 GMT
I wouldn't say that Ghostbusters was praised by critics, but a 75% is still way too high. Peter Travers, who is usually a sucker for this stuff, still couldn't bring himself to rate it 3/4 stars. With all due respect, if you read the RT reviews they're "fresh" but no one says is more than mediocre. How good did it do, tho? As the movie tanked to the bottomless pit, That is what I was getting at. The movie only has a 6.5/10 average rating on RT, which isn't very good but you said it was praised by critics. Now you are saying it wasn't.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Jan 27, 2018 18:46:06 GMT
With all due respect, if you read the RT reviews they're "fresh" but no one says is more than mediocre. How good did it do, tho? As the movie tanked to the bottomless pit, That is what I was getting at. The movie only has a 6.5/10 average rating on RT, which isn't very good but you said it was praised by critics. Now you are saying it wasn't. Okay, maybe I said it wrong. They didn't have the BALLS to say it was bad out of fear for backlash. Any other movie with such poor acting, weak story and shoddy CGI would have been demolished and critics would have had a field day with it.
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