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Post by mortsahlfan on Jan 27, 2018 18:46:42 GMT
80% is closer to correct. Maybe it's unfair but when a movie's "influences" are painfully obvious I tend to deduct more points. I'm going out on a limb and guess you're a horror fan. How do you feel about RT listing it as the BEST horror movie of all time? Yes. Not even a year old but it's THE GREATEST HORROR MOVIE EVER!!!!!!!!!! according to RT. That's just absurd. And yes, I am a horror fan. Halloween (1978) is the greatest horror film of all time, to me. Garbage is garbage - I don't care what anyone says on some commentary..... No talent. So I'm sure it'll sell well! |
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 27, 2018 18:53:04 GMT
That is what I was getting at. The movie only has a 6.5/10 average rating on RT, which isn't very good but you said it was praised by critics. Now you are saying it wasn't. Okay, maybe I said it wrong. They didn't have the BALLS to say it was bad out of fear for backlash. Any other movie with such poor acting, weak story and shoddy CGI would have been demolished and critics would have had a field day with it. Now I get what you are saying. Calling it "praised" is what threw me off. Critics don't seem to rate movies as movies anymore, but rather they rate them based on political factors and that is irresposible imo. |
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Jan 27, 2018 18:59:20 GMT
Okay, maybe I said it wrong. They didn't have the BALLS to say it was bad out of fear for backlash. Any other movie with such poor acting, weak story and shoddy CGI would have been demolished and critics would have had a field day with it. Now I get what you are saying. Calling it "praised" is what threw me off. Critics don't seem to rate movies as movies anymore, but rather they rate them based on political factors and that is irresposible imo. Highly irresponsible, especially when mediocre movies get higher ratings because critics are basically ball-less. And the whole thing w Ghostbusters is that SJW were running smear campaigns towards people who dared say it was shit (I lived thru that), and at the end it still bombed. The lesson was that when the dust settled my conscience was clean, while critics too afraid to criticize it had lost all respect. As for Get Out, I sincerely feel this over praise and nomination are a direct reaction of the #oscarsowhite campaign, and if it wins, EVERYONE will know it was undeserving. |
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 27, 2018 19:10:12 GMT
Now I get what you are saying. Calling it "praised" is what threw me off. Critics don't seem to rate movies as movies anymore, but rather they rate them based on political factors and that is irresposible imo. Highly irresponsible, especially when mediocre movies get higher ratings because critics are basically ball-less. And the whole thing w Ghostbusters is that SJW were running smear campaigns towards people who dared say it was shit (I lived thru that), and at the end it still bombed. The lesson was that when the dust settled my conscience was clean, while critics too afraid to criticize it had lost all respect. As for Get Out, I sincerely feel this over praise and nomination are a direct reaction of the #oscarsowhite campaign, and if it wins, EVERYONE will know it was undeserving. I like the movie quite a bit but I completely agree. When is the last time a horror movie got any love? The Exorcist? I actually think Spider-Man: Homecoming is shit for the same reasons as Ghostbusters (2016). The movie is pandering to the PC crowd and it is painfully obvious and it is poorly written and poorly made on top of that. I just assume you are a fan based on your avatar. |
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 27, 2018 19:15:16 GMT
Now I get what you are saying. Calling it "praised" is what threw me off. Critics don't seem to rate movies as movies anymore, but rather they rate them based on political factors and that is irresposible imo. Highly irresponsible, especially when mediocre movies get higher ratings because critics are basically ball-less. And the whole thing w Ghostbusters is that SJW were running smear campaigns towards people who dared say it was shit (I lived thru that), and at the end it still bombed. The lesson was that when the dust settled my conscience was clean, while critics too afraid to criticize it had lost all respect. As for Get Out, I sincerely feel this over praise and nomination are a direct reaction of the #oscarsowhite campaign, and if it wins, EVERYONE will know it was undeserving. I actually wouldn't have a problem with Get Out winning BP if I didn't know it was for political reasons. It's actually my 4th favorite of the nominees. It is one of my all time favorite horror movies and NOT because it is of the race issue. It is an exceptionally well made, well acted and brilliantly told story imo. The suspense, terror and mystery it builds throughout the movie is nearly unparalleled in the genre for me and it is quite funny at the same time. |
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Jan 27, 2018 19:16:44 GMT
Highly irresponsible, especially when mediocre movies get higher ratings because critics are basically ball-less. And the whole thing w Ghostbusters is that SJW were running smear campaigns towards people who dared say it was shit (I lived thru that), and at the end it still bombed. The lesson was that when the dust settled my conscience was clean, while critics too afraid to criticize it had lost all respect. As for Get Out, I sincerely feel this over praise and nomination are a direct reaction of the #oscarsowhite campaign, and if it wins, EVERYONE will know it was undeserving. I like the movie quite a bit but I completely agree. When is the last time a horror movie got any love? The Excorsist? I actually think Spider-Man: Homecoming is shit for the same reasons as Ghostbusters (2016). The movie is pandering to the PC crowd and it is painfully obvious and it is poorly written and poorly made on top of that. I just assume you are a fan based on your avatar. I like how Peter Parker is portrayed in the MCU, and I love The Vulture, I think it was okay, not the best entry but nothing compared to the shitty Andrew Garfied ones. I actually think Get Out is the spiritual successor of Ghostbusters 16' and FANT4STIC |
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 27, 2018 19:25:58 GMT
I like the movie quite a bit but I completely agree. When is the last time a horror movie got any love? The Excorsist? I actually think Spider-Man: Homecoming is shit for the same reasons as Ghostbusters (2016). The movie is pandering to the PC crowd and it is painfully obvious and it is poorly written and poorly made on top of that. I just assume you are a fan based on your avatar. I like how Peter Parker is portrayed in the MCU, and I love The Vulture, I think it was okay, not the best entry but nothing compared to the shitty Andrew Garfied ones. I actually think Get Out is the spiritual successor of Ghostbusters 16' and FANT4STIC I like the Andrew Garfield movies far more and I disagree that Get Out is a spiritual successor to the two movies you mentioned. I actually find Peter Parker in the MCU annoying and unlikeable and Vulture is a poorly written character. The whole movie is poorly written crap but that is just my opinion. The Andrew Garfield ones are actually fun and thrilling and I actually care about his character in those films. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is admittedly a mess but it is also extremely entertaining and wonderfully campy in a way that I highly enjoy. People have different reactions to movies and my reactions and opinions are just much different from yours in this case. I agree that Ghostbusters 2016 and FANT4STIC are crap though. I do think Spider-Man: Homecoming is a spiritual successor to Ghostbusters 2016 though. All the colors of the rainbow in nearly every scene and changing white characters to non-white characters and interracial relationships for the sake of political correctness. My main problem with the movie though is that it is only pretending to be a Spider-Man movie though, it is really an MCU movie and it never escapes that shadow. I could go on a longer rant but I will spare you. |
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Jan 27, 2018 19:32:11 GMT
I like how Peter Parker is portrayed in the MCU, and I love The Vulture, I think it was okay, not the best entry but nothing compared to the shitty Andrew Garfied ones. I actually think Get Out is the spiritual successor of Ghostbusters 16' and FANT4STIC I like the Andrew Garfield movies far more and I disagree that Get Out is a spiritual successor to the two movies you mentioned. I actually find Peter Parker in the MCU annoying and unlikeable and Vulture is a poorly written character. The whole movie is poorly written crap but that is just my opinion. The Andrew Garfield ones are actually fun and thrilling and I actually care about his character in those films. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is admittedly a mess but it is also extremely entertaining and wonderfully campy in a way that I highly enjoy. People have different reactions to movies and my reactions and opinions are just much different from yours in this case. I agree that Ghostbusters 2016 and FANT4STIC are crap though. Pretty much, we both like movies the other person hates. At least it did not progress into personal insults as it often does. Just one thing: You wanna talk about poorly executed villains? Electro, Rhino and Kid Goblin.... the former of which was the spiritual successor of Mister Freeze... okay, I'm done. |
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Post by poelzig on Jan 27, 2018 19:44:21 GMT
Most of them totally missed the point of the movie anyway. Not a surprise. The irony of this post.  In what way? What do you think the point of the movie was? |
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 27, 2018 19:47:25 GMT
I like the Andrew Garfield movies far more and I disagree that Get Out is a spiritual successor to the two movies you mentioned. I actually find Peter Parker in the MCU annoying and unlikeable and Vulture is a poorly written character. The whole movie is poorly written crap but that is just my opinion. The Andrew Garfield ones are actually fun and thrilling and I actually care about his character in those films. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is admittedly a mess but it is also extremely entertaining and wonderfully campy in a way that I highly enjoy. People have different reactions to movies and my reactions and opinions are just much different from yours in this case. I agree that Ghostbusters 2016 and FANT4STIC are crap though. Pretty much, we both like movies the other person hates. At least it did not progress into personal insults as it often does. Just one thing: You wanna talk about poorly executed villains? Electro, Rhino and Kid Goblin.... the former of which was the spiritual successor of Mister Freeze... okay, I'm done. They are better executed than Vulture, who is a wasted character. Once he leaves a scene I forget he is even in the movie. I like how Electro looks and his powers are awesome and I also like his hatred and anger being built on a feeling of worthlessness. I love DeHaan's slimy self-satisfied performance as Kid Goblin and he merely serves as a snobby rich douchebag but both are more interesting than Vulture imo. Some movies are good simply because they are fun, care-free and silly. Those are the reasons I like The Amazing Spider-Man 2 and yes, those are also the reasons it is a good movie. Rhino is awful but he is barely in the movie. |
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Post by swimm on Jan 27, 2018 22:21:51 GMT
Movie was alright. The movie, and along with the Director are getting Oscar nominations while a a handful of other more deserving movies and directors are getting snubbed. All for the sake diversity
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Post by poelzig on Jan 27, 2018 22:47:57 GMT
The irony of this post. poelzig isn't exactly the brightest of the posters around here. . . . So the only guy on the site who isn't white is stupid? NICE. I knew you were a wizard I just didn't know you were the GRAND WIZARD |
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Post by fartyfartsalot on Jan 27, 2018 22:50:16 GMT
Movie was alright. The movie, and along with the Director are getting Oscar nominations while a a handful of other more deserving movies and directors are getting snubbed. All for the sake diversity Like "Wind River"? People are especially miffed that it got ignored. |
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Jan 27, 2018 22:57:30 GMT
Movie was alright. The movie, and along with the Director are getting Oscar nominations while a a handful of other more deserving movies and directors are getting snubbed. All for the sake diversity Yep. |
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Post by dirtypillows on Jan 29, 2018 3:43:20 GMT
Toasted Cheese I don't really view things as trying to find a 'balance', even though I can see your general point on some level and may agree to some degree because if you take things to a extreme (especially with liberals) things tend to go off the rails. but anyways, I see things more in terms of right or wrong (as some issues are like this)... many key things liberals support on a moral level go against God (i.e. The Holy Trinity(Father/Son(Jesus Christ)/Holy Spirit)) which is one of the major reasons I am conservative as conservative views tend to be more inline with God than liberal views. because if liberals can't even get some basic life issues right(i.e. abortion etc), it's not surprising they will be backwards in many other moral areas etc. because once people start drifting too far away from God's way of living society tends to break down and people start making up their own definitions of right and wrong and when that happens, the moral decline of society begins. basically conservative values work better long term than liberal views (but apparently many have to to learn this lesson the hard way). there might be some stuff that's okay on the liberal side, but overall conservative values are better. I know people around here will disagree with me (and apparently you will to given you said your more liberal than conservative) but when it comes to God it would be hard to go against what I say on the abortion issue alone as that's a red flag there which puts things already in conservative favor. hell, while I am not expert on politics... off the top of my head, conservatives and liberals say 50+ years ago were probably not that far apart but in more recent times it's mainly the liberals that went off the rails from those more old days moral standards. either way, even though your mostly liberal... you appear to be not too far off the rails like many liberals are nowadays. so I got to give you at least some credit  I am not saying conservatives are perfect and that every liberal is evil, as we are all sinners etc, but you get the gist Ill also say this, I am a Catholic... sadly, some "Catholics" are liberal as I don't see how anyone claiming to be a true Catholic who generally follows the teachings of the Church could be liberal. I know technically the Church don't tell people who to vote for either way, but it's pretty obvious conservative/traditional/moral values are more inline with Church teachings than liberal views are which tend to be the opposite in key areas like abortion and like I always say if someone can't even get that issue right it's not surprising they are backwards in many other moral areas. basically liberals put a persons "choice" higher than a persons right to life when it should be the other way around. they sugar coat a gravely immoral/evil thing(abortion) as a "choice" when it's a basic life issue as once people start disposing of human life through abortion like it's no big deal (like some liberals do) then it's just that much easier for them to go off the rails when they start down that line of thinking because human life has less value to them. I know democrats might say something like, 'we are just giving someone the option for abortion, as it's their choice, but we might not necessarily support it etc'. but I figure why make it easier for someone to kill their own baby because at the end of the day making it easy for someone to kill their own baby, which is what abortion does, can't be a good thing for society when there is a basic lack of respect for human life at it's most innocent like that. it just opens the door for further moral decline when someone don't grasp the basics on protecting human life there. just some thoughts Sorry slovak, you have lost me, by going off on what I might consider a biased and misguided tangent about god, abortion, political views, liberals vs conservative. The paradox is, you have sounded fundamentalist\extremist yourself. This is where the credence gets lost on both sides. I saw "Get Out", and I saw it as a pretty entertaining, better than average horror film. I am surprised the Academy recognized it. But then again, the movie has the PC quotient working for it in spades so I guess I am not all that surprised. |
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Jan 29, 2018 4:22:45 GMT
bingo.
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Post by mslo79 on Jan 29, 2018 8:35:40 GMT
Toasted CheeseI might sound 'extremist' but only to someone who has been thoroughly brainwashed by the worlds modern corrupt ways. for me to say abortion is immoral is not wrong. the opposite view of that is the wrong one because if people lack a basic respect for human life(by disposing of it as they see fit), that can't be a good thing. I don't think someone necessarily needs to believe in God to see that much. so basically... if telling the truth about abortion makes one 'extremist', then so be it. but it's not surprising as many in the world did not like Jesus Christ back in his time and that will still remain true today. because the further the world goes down the drain morally, the more 'extremist' they will see those who follow Jesus Christ's way of living. have a good day and thanks for being civil, I appreciate it p.s. my views on abortion are not 'biased' when it comes to God (i.e. The Holy Trinity(Father/Son(Jesus Christ)/Holy Spirit)) as it's simply right vs wrong. I can assure you of this much in that Jesus Christ see's abortion as a evil act. if anyone tells you otherwise, your being misled.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Jan 29, 2018 8:43:10 GMT
I think we are all movie enthusiasts, yet movies like this can be so divisive that politics come into place, and people become nasty, even I have.
Everybody has their minds made up. I still think this movie is shit.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jan 29, 2018 9:26:01 GMT
yes and no. Rewatched it yesterday because I found it mediocre first time, like a less creative version of Being John Malkowich and the like. But I liked it better now, the acting is suitably weird, the story remained interesting and the film is nicely shot. I did not dig the message too much (if it has any and if I interpreted it right).
Oscar worthy as Best Film, hardly. But a solid and different enough piece of entertainment to be remarkable. I had preferred WW as political genre film in the Best Film category, but whatever. |
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Post by miike80 on Jan 29, 2018 9:48:15 GMT
I thought it was very average. I'm not sure where this "greatest horror movie ever" thing is coming from. It isn't the greatest horror film ever by any stretch of the imagination nor is it the bets horror film I've ever seen. It's very likely that it wasn't even the best horror of the week |
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