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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 11, 2018 5:01:50 GMT
Damn. It's almost like these movies are connected to the point of dependency and I'm an idiot for skipping ahead. (Don't even say a word, formersamhmd !!!1) It's more that they are both true comic book movies and they are all sequels of each other. The only thing they are missing are editor's notes to tell you which movie something comes from. And about them being sequels. Don't think of them as being separate franchises, but that Iron Man is the 1st movie in a single franchise. Incredible Hulk is the 2nd movie. So on and so forth. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 11, 2018 5:05:53 GMT
Damn. It's almost like these movies are connected to the point of dependency and I'm an idiot for skipping ahead. (Don't even say a word, formersamhmd !!!1) It's more that they are both true comic book movies and they are all sequels of each other. The only thing they are missing are editor's notes to tell you which movie something comes from. And about them being sequels. Don't think of them as being separate franchises, but that Iron Man is the 1st movie in a single franchise. Incredible Hulk is the 2nd movie. So on and so forth. I remember this being some of the stuff Hafabee said he hated on the old IMDB forum. He hated how the films were connected and not all standalone and this somehow ruined the experience for him because he couldn't accept the story arc method. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 11, 2018 5:07:08 GMT
It's more that they are both true comic book movies and they are all sequels of each other. The only thing they are missing are editor's notes to tell you which movie something comes from. And about them being sequels. Don't think of them as being separate franchises, but that Iron Man is the 1st movie in a single franchise. Incredible Hulk is the 2nd movie. So on and so forth. I remember this being some of the stuff Hafabee said he hated on the old IMDB forum. He hated how the films were connected and not all standalone and this somehow ruined the experience for him because he couldn't accept the story arc method. Never mind that rot. You still haven't answered my question! |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 11, 2018 5:07:42 GMT
I remember this being some of the stuff Hafabee said he hated on the old IMDB forum. He hated how the films were connected and not all standalone and this somehow ruined the experience for him because he couldn't accept the story arc method. Never mind that rot. You still haven't answered my question! Repeat the question, please. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 11, 2018 5:12:13 GMT
Never mind that rot. You still haven't answered my question! Repeat the question, please. So: I fucked up and went from Iron Man 3 to Civil War. I thought it could instruct me just as well as Yoda. Wait, no: I thought I could just pick up what'd happened in the interim via context but am finding the characterization of Tony specifically so jarring as to really damage my suspension of disbelief. So most of these peeps are saying I should just stop where I am in CW, like 30/35 minutes in, and just revisit it once I've at least seen Ultron and Winter Soldier. What do you think? |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 11, 2018 5:18:45 GMT
Repeat the question, please. So: I fucked up and went from Iron Man 3 to Civil War. I thought it could instruct me just as well as Yoda. Wait, no: I thought I could just pick up what'd happened in the interim via context but am finding the characterization of Tony specifically so jarring as to really damage my suspension of disbelief. So most of these peeps are saying I should just stop where I am in CW, like 30/35 minutes in, and just revisit it once I've at least seen Ultron and Winter Soldier. What do you think? The MCU isn't something where you can skip movies, you have to watch them all because even stuff in one film that seems unconnected to the rest will possibly have some connection. If you stopped after Iron Man 3 then you need to watch Thor the Dark World, Winter Soldier, Guardians of the Galaxy and Age of Ultron. Even Ant-Man. Then Civil War. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 11, 2018 5:20:38 GMT
So: I fucked up and went from Iron Man 3 to Civil War. I thought it could instruct me just as well as Yoda. Wait, no: I thought I could just pick up what'd happened in the interim via context but am finding the characterization of Tony specifically so jarring as to really damage my suspension of disbelief. So most of these peeps are saying I should just stop where I am in CW, like 30/35 minutes in, and just revisit it once I've at least seen Ultron and Winter Soldier. What do you think? The MCU isn't something where you can skip movies, you have to watch them all because even stuff in one film that seems unconnected to the rest will possibly have some connection. If you stopped after Iron Man 3 then you need to watch Thor the Dark World, Winter Soldier, Guardians of the Galaxy and Age of Ultron. Even Ant-Man. Then Civil War. Can I at least skip Dark World? It always looked rubbish and even weirdraptor said it's the weakest link in the chain. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 11, 2018 5:25:58 GMT
The MCU isn't something where you can skip movies, you have to watch them all because even stuff in one film that seems unconnected to the rest will possibly have some connection. If you stopped after Iron Man 3 then you need to watch Thor the Dark World, Winter Soldier, Guardians of the Galaxy and Age of Ultron. Even Ant-Man. Then Civil War. Can I at least skip Dark World? It always looked rubbish and even weirdraptor said it's the weakest link in the chain. It explains how Loki took over Asgard in Ragnarok and why Thor continues to run around performing heroics instead of training to be King of Asgard. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 11, 2018 5:35:19 GMT
Can I at least skip Dark World? It always looked rubbish and even weirdraptor said it's the weakest link in the chain. It explains how Loki took over Asgard in Ragnarok and why Thor continues to run around performing heroics instead of training to be King of Asgard. Alright. Well. None of those intervening movies are on Netflix. So maybe someday, then. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 5:35:33 GMT
I put on an episode of Batman: The Animated Series on Amazon Prime while waiting for formersamhmd to pitch in his two cents. It's still paused on the Netflix app. Batman The Animated Series is time well spent. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 11, 2018 5:37:24 GMT
I put on an episode of Batman: The Animated Series on Amazon Prime while waiting for formersamhmd to pitch in his two cents. It's still paused on the Netflix app. Batman The Animated Series is time well spent. It's fucking awesome. I've watched four episodes in a row, haha |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 5:37:52 GMT
It explains how Loki took over Asgard in Ragnarok and why Thor continues to run around performing heroics instead of training to be King of Asgard. Alright. Well. None of those intervening movies are on Netflix. So maybe someday, then. Yo I can hook you up with a app where you can watch them all Hd free. It’s how I watch a lot of my movies. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 5:38:45 GMT
Batman The Animated Series is time well spent. It's fucking awesome. I've watched four episodes in a row, haha It’s the best. I watched them all with my little brothers and we all loved it. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 11, 2018 5:44:27 GMT
It's fucking awesome. I've watched four episodes in a row, haha It’s the best. I watched them all with my little brothers and we all loved it. I used to watch it daily after school for a couple years. It's classic. |
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Post by poelzig on Feb 11, 2018 5:55:27 GMT
I put on an episode of Batman: The Animated Series on Amazon Prime while waiting for formersamhmd to pitch in his two cents. It's still paused on the Netflix app. Any episode of Batman: TAS is infinitely more entertaining, well written and thoughtful than any mcu movie. That's a given. Civil War is not bad and it's considered complex by mcu fans but don't expect too much. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 11, 2018 5:58:03 GMT
I put on an episode of Batman: The Animated Series on Amazon Prime while waiting for formersamhmd to pitch in his two cents. It's still paused on the Netflix app. Any episode of Batman: TAS is infinitely more entertaining, well written and thoughtful than any mcu movie. That's a given. Civil War is not bad and it's considered complex by mcu fans but don't expect too much. Did you find Tony's motivation jarring in it? |
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Post by poelzig on Feb 11, 2018 6:08:30 GMT
Any episode of Batman: TAS is infinitely more entertaining, well written and thoughtful than any mcu movie. That's a given. Civil War is not bad and it's considered complex by mcu fans but don't expect too much. Did you find Tony's motivation jarring in it? It didn't feel organic at all. Like in the comics, Tony and Cap switching roles so to speak is meant to be clever and thought provoking. "Golly gee. The government does bad stuff?" |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 11, 2018 6:12:02 GMT
Did you find Tony's motivation jarring in it? It didn't feel organic at all. Like in the comics, Tony and Cap switching roles so to speak is meant to be clever and thought provoking. "Golly gee. The government does bad stuff?" So you don't feel the installments I missed justified his character change? When he was immediately, like twenty minutes into the movie, just like, "We have to comply with this, no question," I was like, "Wait, what?! Tony, the badass, the freethinker, the renegade, the genius?!" I'm still surprised, and meanwhile Cap is like, "fight the power." As Jerry Seinfeld famously said: WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE? Unless some majorly fucked up shit goes down in, like, Winter Soldier. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Feb 11, 2018 6:25:20 GMT
Can I at least skip Dark World? It always looked rubbish and even weirdraptor said it's the weakest link in the chain. It explains how Loki took over Asgard in Ragnarok and why Thor continues to run around performing heroics instead of training to be King of Asgard. no it does NOT! In TDW Loki dies - which is another faux-MCU-death of course - and suddenly is revealed - as a cheap twist - to have taken over Asgard, and Odin is gone. All this leads to nothing: in Fragglerock this is laughed off with silly jokes, nobody is really angry with Loki for the coup, ban and deceit: not Thor not Odin,who is quite content to stay in Norway looking at the sea and turning into dust (no joke for once). Thor seems not too sad about his immortal dad dying, but suddenly discovers his juvenile humor, and only cries like a little girl in a supermodel TV show when he has to have his hair cut. It's as badly planned out and broken as that broken rainbow bridge disaster or the timeline continuity...or the name Marvel Cinematic Universe ignorant of the term cinematic.  |
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Post by poelzig on Feb 11, 2018 6:35:45 GMT
It didn't feel organic at all. Like in the comics, Tony and Cap switching roles so to speak is meant to be clever and thought provoking. "Golly gee. The government does bad stuff?" So you don't feel the installments I missed justified his character change? When he was immediately, like twenty minutes into the movie, just like, "We have to comply with this, no question," I was like, "Wait, what?! Tony, the badass, the freethinker, the renegade, the genius?!" I'm still surprised, and meanwhile Cap is like, "fight the power." As Jerry Seinfeld famously said: WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE? Unless some majorly fucked up shit goes down in, like, Winter Soldier. Nah. All mcu movies are forgettable so maybe I don't remember exactly but the character change is heavy handed and the reasons given are weak at best. mcu counts on viewers just accepting what they are told like good little sheep. Turn off your brain eat some popcorn and gummy bears and watch some nifty keen heroes whomping on each other. |
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