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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 18, 2018 3:39:05 GMT
They should've made him a Holocaust Survivor, that works wonders. Wow you have an ax to grind with either the X-Men movies or the Holocaut, I can't tell eight now. I think that whole thing in the FoX-Men movies where they use the Holocaust to justify Magneto and try to say the mutant thing is comparable to it is insulting. And I dislike how they keep bringing it up.
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 18, 2018 5:31:56 GMT
I think Klaue is such a force to be reckoned with in the comics that he could have been a better villain, not the kind you identify with but the just asshole "I want them to hurt him" good. I think that ending him in such a way was a disservice and a big fuck you to comic boo fans that were glad to see him on Age of Ultron. They had to kill off Klaue because he's a white guy. I think there were only 4 whites in the whole movie, and 3 of them were killed off early in the movie.
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 18, 2018 5:38:05 GMT
This has to be by far the worst movie in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I will explain. The movie manages to have amazing visuals but it is highly political: and while i understand that works for some people I do not enjoy being hammered over the head with politics. Chadwick Boseman is good as ever as T'Challa and even the supporting Wakandan cast manages to do a good job, but Michael B Jordan's Kilmonger is absolutely one of the worst Comic Book Movie villains I have ever seen. Not only do they keep the formula of making the villain the hero's mirror opposite (which works more times than not) but the filmmakers try real hard for you to like, pity and feel sorry for such a horribly designed character whose main trait is being an awful, petty and vengeful human being. There is no real substance to the movie unless you wanna be deeply immerse into race politics, not my cup of tea to be honest. Which makes me give Black Panther a 5 out of 10, the lowest score I have ever given a movie from this saga. I did not enjoy it, I am not looking forward for a sequel, not even if Namor showed up. It hits you over the head with politics, it even has a jab to Trump, and that is the subtle part. It is hyper-political. I just watched an online version of Black Panther and I have to agree with what you wrote. Black Panther is basically over-preachy left-wing political propaganda that panders to SJWs.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Feb 18, 2018 5:39:35 GMT
This has to be by far the worst movie in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I will explain. The movie manages to have amazing visuals but it is highly political: and while i understand that works for some people I do not enjoy being hammered over the head with politics. Chadwick Boseman is good as ever as T'Challa and even the supporting Wakandan cast manages to do a good job, but Michael B Jordan's Kilmonger is absolutely one of the worst Comic Book Movie villains I have ever seen. Not only do they keep the formula of making the villain the hero's mirror opposite (which works more times than not) but the filmmakers try real hard for you to like, pity and feel sorry for such a horribly designed character whose main trait is being an awful, petty and vengeful human being. There is no real substance to the movie unless you wanna be deeply immerse into race politics, not my cup of tea to be honest. Which makes me give Black Panther a 5 out of 10, the lowest score I have ever given a movie from this saga. I did not enjoy it, I am not looking forward for a sequel, not even if Namor showed up. It hits you over the head with politics, it even has a jab to Trump, and that is the subtle part. It is hyper-political. I just watched an online version of Black Panther and I have to agree with what you wrote. Black Panther is basically over-preachy left-wing political propaganda that panders to SJWs. Let’s be honest, you would have hated it NO MATTER WHAT.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Feb 18, 2018 6:12:38 GMT
Wow you have an ax to grind with either the X-Men movies or the Holocaut, I can't tell eight now. I think that whole thing in the FoX-Men movies where they use the Holocaust to justify Magneto and try to say the mutant thing is comparable to it is insulting. And I dislike how they keep bringing it up. There have been a few X-Men movies. Can you mention in which movie it has been brought up and how?
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Feb 18, 2018 6:16:27 GMT
I just watched an online version of Black Panther and I have to agree with what you wrote. Black Panther is basically over-preachy left-wing political propaganda that panders to SJWs. Let’s be honest, you would have hated it NO MATTER WHAT. That may be true of him. But I am a true believer, I have been a Marvel fan for years now, watched every movie, every show, have read comics... not so much the new SJW stuff these last couple of years and I hated the movie.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Feb 18, 2018 6:18:36 GMT
Let’s be honest, you would have hated it NO MATTER WHAT. That may be true of him. But I am a true believer, I have been a Marvel fan for years now, watched every movie, every show, have read comics... not so much the new SJW stuff these last couple of years and I hated the movie. It is true. Too bad you didn’t like it. I might go see it tomorrow, but I don’t have really high expectations because of some things I’ve read about it.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Feb 18, 2018 6:26:29 GMT
That may be true of him. But I am a true believer, I have been a Marvel fan for years now, watched every movie, every show, have read comics... not so much the new SJW stuff these last couple of years and I hated the movie. It is true. Too bad you didn’t like it. I might go see it tomorrow, but I don’t have really high expectations because of some things I’ve read about it. Go with low expectations, bro. I am a true believer but I cannot just sit and say it wasn't a SJW shit show. As a comic reader i am happy they have FINALLY listened to their audience and cancelled a few titles.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 18, 2018 10:06:54 GMT
I think that whole thing in the FoX-Men movies where they use the Holocaust to justify Magneto and try to say the mutant thing is comparable to it is insulting. And I dislike how they keep bringing it up. There have been a few X-Men movies. Can you mention in which movie it has been brought up and how? The first film, where Magneto think that the Mutant Act will result in another Holocaust. X2, where Stryker uses Nazi methods (experimenting on mutants, using Kids as test subjects for his Mutant Killing Cerebro Weapon) including a "Final Solution" type thing with Dark Cerebro. DOFP with its futureworld scenes of mutants in camps with "X" stamps on their faces while being led to death. FC involved lots of Nazi stuff. At least when the MCU used Nazis they also had Dr Erskine point out how Germany was the first country conquered by the Nazis and the Germans suffered too.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Feb 18, 2018 13:19:39 GMT
There have been a few X-Men movies. Can you mention in which movie it has been brought up and how? The first film, where Magneto think that the Mutant Act will result in another Holocaust. X2, where Stryker uses Nazi methods (experimenting on mutants, using Kids as test subjects for his Mutant Killing Cerebro Weapon) including a "Final Solution" type thing with Dark Cerebro. DOFP with its futureworld scenes of mutants in camps with "X" stamps on their faces while being led to death. FC involved lots of Nazi stuff. At least when the MCU used Nazis they also had Dr Erskine point out how Germany was the first country conquered by the Nazis and the Germans suffered too. So the Nazis is what offends you? Are you like anti Semitic, or?
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 18, 2018 14:28:28 GMT
The first film, where Magneto think that the Mutant Act will result in another Holocaust. X2, where Stryker uses Nazi methods (experimenting on mutants, using Kids as test subjects for his Mutant Killing Cerebro Weapon) including a "Final Solution" type thing with Dark Cerebro. DOFP with its futureworld scenes of mutants in camps with "X" stamps on their faces while being led to death. FC involved lots of Nazi stuff. At least when the MCU used Nazis they also had Dr Erskine point out how Germany was the first country conquered by the Nazis and the Germans suffered too. So the Nazis is what offends you? Are you like anti Semitic, or? I think it's creatively bankrupt to use Nazis in a story like that to build sympathy for a character.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Feb 18, 2018 17:25:20 GMT
So the Nazis is what offends you? Are you like anti Semitic, or? I think it's creatively bankrupt to use Nazis in a story like that to build sympathy for a character. It's part of the story.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 18, 2018 18:09:50 GMT
I think it's creatively bankrupt to use Nazis in a story like that to build sympathy for a character. It's part of the story. A creatively bankrupt story.
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Post by Lee on Feb 18, 2018 18:19:23 GMT
Still repeating the same words again? Oh i forget, you are the one with the low IQ.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 18, 2018 19:04:33 GMT
Still repeating the same words again? Oh i forget, you are the one with the low IQ. 2+2, man, 2+2.
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Post by Lee on Feb 18, 2018 19:30:31 GMT
Wow. A primitive neanderthal like you can math?
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 18, 2018 21:32:29 GMT
Wow. A primitive neanderthal like you can math? I also know when someone keeps using the same argument on me, all it requires is the same response.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Feb 18, 2018 22:23:42 GMT
A creatively bankrupt story. Blame the comics
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 19, 2018 1:20:13 GMT
A creatively bankrupt story. Blame the comics I do. But at least the comics stopped trying to use that to make us sympathize with Magneto a long while back.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Feb 19, 2018 1:26:48 GMT
I do. But at least the comics stopped trying to use that to make us sympathize with Magneto a long while back. Yeah but Magneto is not really that prominent for a while. He has arely been seen after House of M, and to be quite honest with all the reboots Marvel Comics has done I'm not sure if he's even alive in the 616
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