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Post by Vassaggo on Mar 4, 2018 22:44:58 GMT
No, because the critics rating for Wonder Woman is only 4% higher than the audience rating so it's within the statistical margin of error. The critics rating for Black Panther is a whopping 18% higher than the audience rating so that clearly proves that Black Panther is over-rated and the critics are just afraid to give Black Panther a lower rating because they're afraid to be called racist by the SJWs. Man I cannot believe how many of you jump on the anti-SJW train. Seriously the 2016 election really drove you guys insane. I'm actually surprised that you didn't go around calling anyone who liked Black Panther or Wonder Woman a cuck. I haven't seen this much insanity since the Gamergate controversy. Dude, I live in SC normal conservative turned into uber conservative people during election and after. It has been a weird 2 years. It's like President Trump awakened their inner troll. They didn't care what they had to say or support as long as it made moderates and liberals mad. As for our Resident Troll, he has to pretend there wasn't a group of Alt Right Trolls disguising themselves as DCEU fans. They tried and to some what accomplished tanking RT Audience score. They also have been down voting reviews on IMDB. If I had to guess our Troll probably helped. For someone who says he doesn't like MCU it seems the only thing he can talk about. I've seen this in a few of my friends growing up. They were in the closet gay men that always talked about how being gay was horrible. Then in there late 20's came out. Our Troll is a closeted MCU Fan I think. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 4, 2018 22:50:43 GMT
Man I cannot believe how many of you jump on the anti-SJW train. Seriously the 2016 election really drove you guys insane. I'm actually surprised that you didn't go around calling anyone who liked Black Panther or Wonder Woman a cuck. I haven't seen this much insanity since the Gamergate controversy. Dude, I live in SC normal conservative turned into uber conservative people during election and after. It has been a weird 2 years. It's like President Trump awakened their inner troll. They didn't care what they had to say or support as long as it made moderates and liberals mad. As for our Resident Troll, he has to pretend there wasn't a group of Alt Right Trolls disguising themselves as DCEU fans. They tried and to some what accomplished tanking RT Audience score. They also have been down voting reviews on IMDB. If I had to guess our Troll probably helped. For someone who says he doesn't like MCU it seems the only thing he can talk about. I've seen this in a few of my friends growing up. They were in the closet gay men that always talked about how being gay was horrible. Then in there late 20's came out. Our Troll is a closeted MCU Fan I think. In all fairness, liberals have also lost their collective shit. I swear I feel like I'm the only same mother fucker on this planet anymore. |
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Post by Vassaggo on Mar 4, 2018 22:53:29 GMT
Dude, I live in SC normal conservative turned into uber conservative people during election and after. It has been a weird 2 years. It's like President Trump awakened their inner troll. They didn't care what they had to say or support as long as it made moderates and liberals mad. As for our Resident Troll, he has to pretend there wasn't a group of Alt Right Trolls disguising themselves as DCEU fans. They tried and to some what accomplished tanking RT Audience score. They also have been down voting reviews on IMDB. If I had to guess our Troll probably helped. For someone who says he doesn't like MCU it seems the only thing he can talk about. I've seen this in a few of my friends growing up. They were in the closet gay men that always talked about how being gay was horrible. Then in there late 20's came out. Our Troll is a closeted MCU Fan I think. In all fairness, liberals have also lost their collective shit. I swear I feel like I'm the only same mother fucker on this planet anymore. No doubt. The middle have to choose between Bat Shit Crazy or Morally Deplorable... |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 4, 2018 23:03:29 GMT
In all fairness, liberals have also lost their collective shit. I swear I feel like I'm the only same mother fucker on this planet anymore. No doubt. The middle have to choose between Bat Shit Crazy or Morally Deplorable... Which is why we stay in the middle and the best part? We're hated by the left and the right. I've always felt like if you manage to piss off both sides then you're automatically right. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 4, 2018 23:03:39 GMT
So "proving" yourself worthy to be leader means you just have to prove that you have the most brute strength and it doesn't matter if you're the dumbest asshole in the nation as long as you have the most brute strength? If that's the case, then the Hulk could challenge for the throne of Wakanda and be the leader because intelligence isn't a qualification to be leader of Wakanda. That would also explain why T'Challa accepted Killmonger's challenge without a DNA test to verify that Killmonger really is who he claims he is and not just an imposter hired by Klaue to take over the throne.
And as for the MCU fan who claimed that accepting Killmonger's challenge without verification deters other challengers, that's 100% false. If an unamarried woman claimed that a married man was the father of her child and wanted him to pay child support, would Wakanda law say "We accept the woman's claim. No DNA test needed"? If that's the case, then MORE not LESS women would make similar claims. Likewise, T'Challa accepting Killmonger's challenge without any DNA verification would invite plenty more challenges from imposters.
Just another case of an over-rated and over-hyped MCU movie with plenty of bad writing.
It's been awhile since I've watched Black Panther, but if I recall Zuri (played wonderfully by Forrest Whitaker) was the one who confirmed Erik blood relation to T'challa. Zuri was sent to spy on Erik father, N'Jobu, and was present for his death. Zuri is respected by T'challa and his council, so it's not unreasonable for them not to believe him. That's just as bad as not verifying Killmonger's DNA. The last time Zuri saw Killmonger was 25 years ago when Killmonger was still a kid. How would Zuri know 100% that Killmonger isn't an imposter? Has Zuri secretly been in contact with Killmonger over the past 25 years? Killmonger looks like the kid from 25 years ago? If this was a scheme by Klaue to put an imposter on the throne of Wakanda, wouldn't it occur to dumbass T'Challa and the dumbass Wakandan council that Klaue would find an imposter who looks a lot like the kid from 25 years ago? It's no wonder Wakandans still hold on to such a barbaric and savage way of choosing their leader by bloodshed and mortal combat. Because they're too stupid to come up with a peaceful way to choose a leader in the 21st century, even though most of the rest of the world has already done so. And they're too stupid to get a DNA test to verify Killmonger's claim. Which brings us back to my question which MCU fans still haven't answered: If an unmarried woman claimed that a married man was the father of her child and wanted him to pay child support, would Wakanda law say "We accept the woman's claim. No DNA test needed"? Because it seems that a claim is all that's needed and no DNA verification is needed. |
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Post by Vassaggo on Mar 4, 2018 23:16:42 GMT
What is the definition of Grasping at Straws?
First you say that Black Panther isn't going to be that good and that it will be over hyped.
Next, when it gets critical love you double down on over-hype and SJW
Then, when it has record breaking opening. You say it won't have legs and no chance to beat WW domestic or foreign
Especially because it won't open in China:
"Other than Hong Kong, Black Panther isn't getting released in China so NO, Black Panther's foreign box office won't beat Wonder Woman's foreign box office either."
Then it's announced that it will open in China:
"Yes, because Black Panther will bomb in China, just like The Last Jedi did."
Then it looks like Black Panther will get to a billion even without counting on China:
"Doubtful. To reach a billion, you basically need repeat viewers. From what I've read so far, many people have been turned off by the racism agenda in the movie (which is why the audience score is considerably lower than the critics score, since critics are afraid of being called racist if they give BP a bad rating) so the repeat viewership will probably be low. Also, BP will probably bomb in China even worse than TLJ did."
His final 2 straws he can grab is the Audience Score and Barbaric Wakandans.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 4, 2018 23:19:39 GMT
It's been awhile since I've watched Black Panther, but if I recall Zuri (played wonderfully by Forrest Whitaker) was the one who confirmed Erik blood relation to T'challa. Zuri was sent to spy on Erik father, N'Jobu, and was present for his death. Zuri is respected by T'challa and his council, so it's not unreasonable for them not to believe him. That's just as bad as not verifying Killmonger's DNA. The last time Zuri saw Killmonger was 25 years ago when Killmonger was still a kid. How would Zuri know 100% that Killmonger isn't an imposter? Has Zuri secretly been in contact with Killmonger over the past 25 years? Killmonger looks like the kid from 25 years ago? If this was a scheme by Klaue to put an imposter on the throne of Wakanda, wouldn't it occur to dumbass T'Challa and the dumbass Wakandan council that Klaue would find an imposter who looks a lot like the kid from 25 years ago? It's no wonder Wakandans still hold on to such a barbaric and savage way of choosing their leader by bloodshed and mortal combat. Because they're too stupid to come up with a peaceful way to choose a leader in the 21st century, even though most of the rest of the world has already done so. And they're too stupid to get a DNA test to verify Killmonger's claim. Which brings us back to my question which MCU fans still haven't answered: If an unmarried woman claimed that a married man was the father of her child and wanted him to pay child support, would Wakanda law say "We accept the woman's claim. No DNA test needed"? Because it seems that a claim is all that's needed and no DNA verification is needed. Zuri made it clear he knew about the birth of Erik. He befriended N'Jobu under the disguise of a American Oakland native. Zuri mentioned that after N'Jobu was slained by T'Chakka they left the kid alive because of the bloodline. Obviously this came back to bite them on the ass. Klaue didn't know what Erik was until he revealed himself right before he killed him. Klaue even said "I thought you were just another crazy American". BTW killing isn't required in the trials. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 4, 2018 23:28:16 GMT
That's just as bad as not verifying Killmonger's DNA. The last time Zuri saw Killmonger was 25 years ago when Killmonger was still a kid. How would Zuri know 100% that Killmonger isn't an imposter? Has Zuri secretly been in contact with Killmonger over the past 25 years? Killmonger looks like the kid from 25 years ago? If this was a scheme by Klaue to put an imposter on the throne of Wakanda, wouldn't it occur to dumbass T'Challa and the dumbass Wakandan council that Klaue would find an imposter who looks a lot like the kid from 25 years ago? It's no wonder Wakandans still hold on to such a barbaric and savage way of choosing their leader by bloodshed and mortal combat. Because they're too stupid to come up with a peaceful way to choose a leader in the 21st century, even though most of the rest of the world has already done so. And they're too stupid to get a DNA test to verify Killmonger's claim. Which brings us back to my question which MCU fans still haven't answered: If an unmarried woman claimed that a married man was the father of her child and wanted him to pay child support, would Wakanda law say "We accept the woman's claim. No DNA test needed"? Because it seems that a claim is all that's needed and no DNA verification is needed. Zuri made it clear he knew about the birth of Erik. He befriended N'Jobu under the disguise of a American Oakland native. Zuri mentioned that after N'Jobu was slained by T'Chakka they left the kid alive because of the bloodline. Obviously this came back to bite them on the ass. I'm not referring to how Zuir knew about the uncle's son from 25 years ago. I'm referring to how would Zuri know Killmonger is the same person as the son from 25 years ago when the last time Zuri saw the son was 25 years ago when the son was still a kid. Or has Zuri secretly been in contact with the son for the past 25 years? Klaue didn't know what Erik was until he revealed himself right before he killed him. Klaue even said "I thought you were just another crazy American". And was Killmonger or Zuri or any of the Wakandan council there when Klaue said that? They weren't there so as far as they know, the whole thing could've just been a scheme by Klaue to put an imposter on the throne of Wakanda. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 4, 2018 23:51:25 GMT
Zuri made it clear he knew about the birth of Erik. He befriended N'Jobu under the disguise of a American Oakland native. Zuri mentioned that after N'Jobu was slained by T'Chakka they left the kid alive because of the bloodline. Obviously this came back to bite them on the ass. I'm not referring to how Zuir knew about the uncle's son from 25 years ago. I'm referring to how would Zuri know Killmonger is the same person as the son from 25 years ago when the last time Zuri saw the son was 25 years ago when the son was still a kid. Or has Zuri secretly been in contact with the son for the past 25 years? Klaue didn't know what Erik was until he revealed himself right before he killed him. Klaue even said "I thought you were just another crazy American". And was Killmonger or Zuri or any of the Wakandan council there when Klaue said that? They weren't there so as far as they know, the whole thing could've just been a scheme by Klaue to put an imposter on the throne of Wakanda. Apparently it was because of the ring killmonger had on him. It belonged to N'Jobu and was left behind when N'Jobu died. T'challa had a similar ring left for him when T'Chakka died in Civil War. As for Klaue, he was a wanted criminal by Wakanda. Killmonger brought his body back I guess to be on good terms with them? I don't remember. If anyone has a fresher memory of the film, please join in on this conversation. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 5, 2018 0:29:31 GMT
Nope, they have mystical powers that let them speak to the dead spirits. That backs up the story of the Panther God and all the spirits attest to said God. They got more proof of a God than any other religion on Earth. Nope, they have drugs that let hem have hallucinations about speaking to dead spirits. "Hallucinations" that know things the person seeing them wouldn't know, meaning they really are speaking to ghosts. Plus we know that these things already exist thanks to the MCU setting up magic properly. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 5, 2018 0:38:25 GMT
I'm not referring to how Zuir knew about the uncle's son from 25 years ago. I'm referring to how would Zuri know Killmonger is the same person as the son from 25 years ago when the last time Zuri saw the son was 25 years ago when the son was still a kid. Or has Zuri secretly been in contact with the son for the past 25 years? And was Killmonger or Zuri or any of the Wakandan council there when Klaue said that? They weren't there so as far as they know, the whole thing could've just been a scheme by Klaue to put an imposter on the throne of Wakanda. Apparently it was because of the ring killmonger had on him. It belonged to N'Jobu and was left behind when N'Jobu died. T'challa had a similar ring left for him when T'Chakka died in Civil War. And the ring could've been stolen by an imposter. You keep forgetting that Klaue worked with N'Jobu 25 years ago so Klaue could've easily known about the ring and many other secrets from N'Jobu and could've easily come up with a scheme to put an imposter on the throne of Wakanda. As for Klaue, he was a wanted criminal by Wakanda. Killmonger brought his body back I guess to be on good terms with them? And Killmonger could've easily been an imposter recruited by Klaue for his scheme to put an imposter on the throne of Wakanda. But Killmonger killed Klaue, you say? So this would be the 1st time ever that a couple partners in a scheme got into an argument and 1 of them killed the other? It could've easily been that Klaue knew about the ring and all the other secrets from N'Jobu 25 years ago and acme up with this scheme to put an imposter (Killmonger) on the throne of Wakanda and Klaue and Killmonger got into an argument and Killmonger killed Klaue and decided to bring Klaue's body to Wakanda as part of the scheme. But T'Challa and the Wakandan council are too stupid to consider that. That would explain why Wakanda is too stupid to come up with a peaceful way in the 21st century to choose a leader without bloodshed and mortal combat when most of the rest of the world has already done so. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 5, 2018 1:11:19 GMT
Apparently it was because of the ring killmonger had on him. It belonged to N'Jobu and was left behind when N'Jobu died. T'challa had a similar ring left for him when T'Chakka died in Civil War. And the ring could've been stolen by an imposter. You keep forgetting that Klaue worked with N'Jobu 25 years ago so Klaue could've easily known about the ring and many other secrets from N'Jobu and could've easily come up with a scheme to put an imposter on the throne of Wakanda. As for Klaue, he was a wanted criminal by Wakanda. Killmonger brought his body back I guess to be on good terms with them? And Killmonger could've easily been an imposter recruited by Klaue for his scheme to put an imposter on the throne of Wakanda. But Killmonger killed Klaue, you say? So this would be the 1st time ever that a couple partners in a scheme got into an argument and 1 of them killed the other? It could've easily been that Klaue knew about the ring and all the other secrets from N'Jobu 25 years ago and acme up with this scheme to put an imposter (Killmonger) on the throne of Wakanda and Klaue and Killmonger got into an argument and Killmonger killed Klaue and decided to bring Klaue's body to Wakanda as part of the scheme. But T'Challa and the Wakandan council are too stupid to consider that. That would explain why Wakanda is too stupid to come up with a peaceful way in the 21st century to choose a leader without bloodshed and mortal combat when most of the rest of the world has already done so. If they'd done a DNA test, you'd still be complaining. And you keep ignoring the Panther God. |
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Post by Surly on Mar 5, 2018 2:32:11 GMT
That's where you're totally wrong. For their era they were extremely advanced in comparison to most of the rest of world. So your argument about time period is irrelevant. And again, being isolationists would influence their development. That's true even in nature. Madagascar and Australia have some of the most unique animal species in the world because of being isolated from other major continents for such a long period of time. You started your argument on the premise of being a Marvel hating DC fan. That was the main motive behind your argument. And that's why it doesn't hold up. Because you didn't stop and check if it had more foundation than that. If your fault has already occurred historically then your complaint is flawed. And here's one more thing, president Trump ignores "green technology" and rejects global warming policies. According to you no technologically advanced nation today would choose isolationist policy or social customs. Nice talking to you. Good luck with that Swiss cheese argument. No, your argument is flawed. Because you don't even understand it. Of course, it has happened historically! When humans weren't as civilized as they are now and were barbaric and savage!
That's the whole point! Civilization advances. And along with advancement is the elimination of barbaric and savage traditions, like choosing a leader by bloodshed and mortal combat.
But Wakanda is still so far behind the rest of the world that they still resort to a barbaric and savage tradition to choose their leader. Which is why it makes no sense at all for the writers to say that Wakanda is technologically advanced because, while humans craved barbaric and savage traditions at a time when they were less civilized, technologically advanced nations in the 21st century don't hold on to such barbaric and savage traditions.
Moreover, IT'S ALSO HAPPENED HISTORICALLY THAT IF SOMEONE GOT CAUGHT STEALING, THEY GOT THEIR HAND CHOPPED OFF. SO BASED ON YOUR REALLY STUPID ARGUMENT, YOU'RE SAYING THAT CHOPPING OFF SOMEONE'S HAND FOR STEALING IN THE 21ST CENTURY IS OK AND WOULDN'T BE BARBARIC AND SAVAGE. THAT'S HOW STUPID YOUR ARGUMENT IS!
Uhh... No! Based on my argument getting hands chopped off for stealing could occur today. Even in nations that have some technological advancement. And guess what, Sherlock? It does. I can give examples in case you're too clueless to figure it out on your own. LOL |
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