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Post by blockbusted on Mar 4, 2018 2:07:53 GMT
At least until ‘Fant4stic’ came in... Nah, B&R is still the no. 1 worst superhero movie for most people, but Fan4stic isn't far behind. Many people would disagree as they would argue that at least you can make fun of ‘Batman & Robin’ while you can’t even do that with ‘Fant4stic’. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 4, 2018 2:29:28 GMT
Because B&R is better than any DCEU movie, that's why. Fixed. Got it. |
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Post by charzhino on Mar 4, 2018 2:35:34 GMT
There are hardcore DC fanatics who rate all the 90s Batman films over Nolans trilogy just for the pure fact that they were close to the source material wheras Nolans were so far apart.
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Post by scabab on Mar 4, 2018 3:27:02 GMT
Guardians of the Galaxy was supposed to be funny. Batman and Robin was funny just from how bad it is.
That said I've seen a bunch of superhero movies worse than Batman and Robin. At least that movie is entertaining in a bad way.
Steel, Fantastic Four 1994 and 2015, Ghost Rider and it's sequel, Catwoman etc.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 4, 2018 3:28:39 GMT
That's also true, but it doesn't negate my original edit. |
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Post by Surly on Mar 4, 2018 3:35:41 GMT
B&R haters suffer from 20-year-old group-think. Go back and watch it again. It's actually aged well, when you consider the context of what it is and what it was trying to be. It is exactly what it was trying to be, and in that context it is a really interesting and fun film. Personally, I consider it a good, campy, children's live-action comic book film. I have watched it again. And with the exception of Chris O'Donnell's acting I regret it each time. Every time I attempt to watch that movie again I lose a little bit more self respect. There's nothing you can say that would erase those experiences. But if it's your cup of tea, have at it. |
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Post by thenewnexus on Mar 4, 2018 3:58:06 GMT
Batman and Robin has everything thay MCU movies have,but is hated. Can anybody explain this? Because Batman & Robin is a badly made movie that has no genuinely redeeming factors going for it and is everything a superhero movie should avoid to be if they want to be successful with critics, fans, and general audiences. The worst MCU anything is still Citizen Kane compared to Batman & Robin. Other than BP,WS and Netflix stuff,Batman and Robin is the same as every mcu movie |
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Post by dodge4life on Mar 4, 2018 4:07:23 GMT
Because Batman & Robin is a badly made movie that has no genuinely redeeming factors going for it and is everything a superhero movie should avoid to be if they want to be successful with critics, fans, and general audiences. The worst MCU anything is still Citizen Kane compared to Batman & Robin. At least until ‘Fant4stic’ came in... Fant4stic had potential. Everything about B&R was trash, but Fantast4c lacked something. 50% of the scenes from the trailer weren't even in the final film, and their were great shots. A lot of the shots in Fantastic Four were good, it's just, they went nowhere. It seems botched and rushed. It's not possible to make B&R good, but with Fantastic Four, if you put back in all the scenes from the trailer, take out the last-minute rushed reshoots, where it's about a 120-minute film, it could have been a masterpiece IMO. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 4, 2018 4:13:22 GMT
Because Batman & Robin is a badly made movie that has no genuinely redeeming factors going for it and is everything a superhero movie should avoid to be if they want to be successful with critics, fans, and general audiences. The worst MCU anything is still Citizen Kane compared to Batman & Robin. Other than BP,WS and Netflix stuff,Batman and Robin is the same as every mcu movie Not really. You just have issues with CBMs that aren't afraid to embrace the nature of comic books. B&R has problems that MCU films don't. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 4, 2018 4:26:20 GMT
Other than BP,WS and Netflix stuff,Batman and Robin is the same as every mcu movie Not really. You just have issues with CBMs that aren't afraid to embrace the nature of comic books. B&R has problems that MCU films don't. Such as? |
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Post by poelzig on Mar 4, 2018 4:32:55 GMT
Maybe because it's just a downright terrible film with astounding level of miscastings and dreadful green screen effects?
It's not that hard to figure out.
Seriously, just watch these videos if you want to find out why:
Just looking at those 2 douchebags with their mouths agape make me want to toss acid in their faces. |
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Post by thenewnexus on Mar 4, 2018 4:38:15 GMT
Other than BP,WS and Netflix stuff,Batman and Robin is the same as every mcu movie Not really. You just have issues with CBMs that aren't afraid to embrace the nature of comic books. B&R has problems that MCU films don't. I got problem with campy movies. The movies more mature to embrace the nature of the comics like BP,WS and Netflix stuff |
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Post by poelzig on Mar 4, 2018 4:47:04 GMT
Other than BP,WS and Netflix stuff,Batman and Robin is the same as every mcu movie Not really. You just have issues with CBMs that aren't afraid to embrace the nature of comic books. B&R has problems that MCU films don't. WOW!!! Even after I pointed it out you still regurgitate the same handful of copy and paste posts that you mistakenly believe are clever. Lucky for you your audience is terrified of anything original. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 4, 2018 4:49:58 GMT
Not really. You just have issues with CBMs that aren't afraid to embrace the nature of comic books. B&R has problems that MCU films don't. I got problem with campy movies. Star Wars, Star Trek, Back to the Future, Ghostbusters, James Bond, numerous other classics too I presume. The nature of the comics was always loaded with wacky, over-the-top stuff that you shouldn't be so thin-skinned over. BP and WS have wacky elements to them as well if you thought about it. And the Netflix series only seem "grounded" and "gritty" because they don't have the money to do cooler stuff. They've been building up to less grounded things with Defenders. Hell, your Punisher battled a secret conspiracy to replace currency with cocaine in the event of an apocalypse destroying society. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 4, 2018 4:50:31 GMT
Not really. You just have issues with CBMs that aren't afraid to embrace the nature of comic books. B&R has problems that MCU films don't. WOW!!! Even after I pointed it out you still regurgitate the same handful of copy and paste posts If someone asks me what 2+2 is, all I can say is "4". |
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 4, 2018 4:51:28 GMT
Not really. You just have issues with CBMs that aren't afraid to embrace the nature of comic books. B&R has problems that MCU films don't. Such as? Nonsensical characters motivations, ridiculous acting, and a lead who didn't even understand his character (Clooney). |
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Post by blockbusted on Mar 4, 2018 5:26:42 GMT
At least until ‘Fant4stic’ came in... Fant4stic had potential. Everything about B&R was trash, but Fantast4c lacked something. 50% of the scenes from the trailer weren't even in the final film, and their were great shots. A lot of the shots in Fantastic Four were good, it's just, they went nowhere. It seems botched and rushed. It's not possible to make B&R good, but with Fantastic Four, if you put back in all the scenes from the trailer, take out the last-minute rushed reshoots, where it's about a 120-minute film, it could have been a masterpiece IMO. It really wasn’t. Josh Trank was practically making a ‘Fantastic Four’-in-name-only and behaved to cast and crews in a nasty way. It doesn’t help that the version he made didn’t even have an ending at all. |
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Post by poelzig on Mar 4, 2018 5:27:02 GMT
WOW!!! Even after I pointed it out you still regurgitate the same handful of copy and paste posts If someone asks me what 2+2 is, all I can say is "4". Yeah you used that tired answer a few dozen times as well and I pointed out how that isn't always correct. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Mar 4, 2018 5:38:35 GMT
Because Batman & Robin is a badly made movie that has no genuinely redeeming factors going for it and is everything a superhero movie should avoid to be if they want to be successful with critics, fans, and general audiences. The worst MCU anything is still Citizen Kane compared to Batman & Robin. Other than BP,WS and Netflix stuff,Batman and Robin is the same as every mcu movie Till your argument begins to show more weight than a piece of paper, no it isn't. And honestly, I can't see it getting any heavier. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Mar 4, 2018 5:44:03 GMT
Not really. You just have issues with CBMs that aren't afraid to embrace the nature of comic books. B&R has problems that MCU films don't. I got problem with campy movies. The movies more mature to embrace the nature of the comics like BP,WS and Netflix stuff If you have no problem with campy movies, then why are you hating on the MCU? By your logic you should be perfectly fine with them. But here you are making a thread saying they're on the level with arguably the worst superhero movie ever made. |
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