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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 4, 2018 10:57:43 GMT
There are hardcore DC fanatics who rate all the 90s Batman films over Nolans trilogy just for the pure fact that they were close to the source material wheras Nolans were so far apart. And they're wrong, because nolan is superior.
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Post by hobowar on Mar 4, 2018 11:30:56 GMT
Batman and Robin has everything thay MCU movies have,but is hated. Can anybody explain this? I can explain it. You're the dumbest person in the world.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 4, 2018 12:03:29 GMT
Nonsensical characters motivations, ridiculous acting, and a lead who didn't even understand his character (Clooney). What was wrong with Clooney? And speaking of him, I wish he would defend the movie. I don't know why actors talk crap about their own movies. Show a little pride. Tell the critics to fuck off. Say you had a blast and that you loved being Batman and that it was worth it if even one kid enjoyed the movie. He said that it was time for Bruce to get over his parents' deaths and try to move on with his life, IIRC...Bruce is defined by his inability to get over things, he's defined by his obsessions.
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Mar 4, 2018 13:18:22 GMT
Nonsensical characters motivations, ridiculous acting, and a lead who didn't even understand his character (Clooney). What was wrong with Clooney? And speaking of him, I wish he would defend the movie. I don't know why actors talk crap about their own movies. Show a little pride. Tell the critics to fuck off. Say you had a blast and that you loved being Batman and that it was worth it if even one kid enjoyed the movie. LOL! What was wrong with his acting!?! Everything! Clooney's Batman had no personality. He just aimlessly wandered through the movie deadpanning lines. Sometimes he honestly looked lost. Sometimes the expression on his face was one of a person who wasn't even sure they were on the right movie set. Even Clooney admitted his acting in that movie sucked. And I'd rather an actor do that then try and tell me that some turd that they were in is really a Belgian chocolate masterpiece shaped like animal droppings for artistic reasons - and it smells like an overused port-a-potty because it's making an artistic commitment to strong olfactory stimulation - and I'm allegedly to stupid to appreciate it. I've seen enough of that kind of behavior from actors and filmmakers recently. And it just shows that they don't know how to take constructive criticism from their audience when they make a bad movie, or a movie with some problematic elements. Heh! Don't get me started about this movie! Arnold Schwartzanegger cracked so many one liners in that movie that when it got close to the end of movie I said "If he cracks one more one-liner I'm getting up and walking out the theatre!" In a scene that should've had serious, emotional gravitas about Mr. Freeze feelings about his wife and admitting his wrongdoing - sure enough he did... "Take two of these and call me in the morning!" or some ridiculously cliche one-liner close to that. But that was a microcosm of the entire film. It was campy, cliched, and deadpan to obnoxious levels. It beat you over the head with it. And then I promptly got up and walked out. Never seen what happened after that one liner. Never seen that movie again since.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 4, 2018 13:54:00 GMT
What was wrong with Clooney? And speaking of him, I wish he would defend the movie. I don't know why actors talk crap about their own movies. Show a little pride. Tell the critics to fuck off. Say you had a blast and that you loved being Batman and that it was worth it if even one kid enjoyed the movie. LOL! What was wrong with his acting!?! Everything! Clooney's Batman had no personality. He just aimlessly wandered through the movie deadpanning lines. Sometimes he honestly looked lost. Sometimes the expression on his face was one of a person who wasn't even sure they were on the right movie set. Even Clooney admitted his acting in that movie sucked. And I'd rather an actor do that then try and tell me that some turd that they were in is really a Belgian chocolate masterpiece shaped like animal droppings for artistic reasons - and it smells like an overused port-a-potty because it's making an artistic commitment to strong olfactory stimulation - and I'm allegedly to stupid to appreciate it. I've seen enough of that kind of behavior from actors and filmmakers recently. And it just shows that they don't know how to take constructive criticism from their audience when they make a bad movie, or a movie with some problematic elements. Heh! Don't get me started about this movie! Arnold Schwartzanegger cracked so many one liners in that movie that when it got close to the end of movie I said "If he cracks one more one-liner I'm getting up and walking out the theatre!" In a scene that should've had serious, emotional gravitas about Mr. Freeze feelings about his wife and admitting his wrongdoing - sure enough he did... "Take two of these and call me in the morning!" or some ridiculously cliche one-liner close to that. But that was a microcosm of the entire film. It was campy, cliched, and deadpan to obnoxious levels. It beat you over the head with it. And then I promptly got up and walked out. Never seen what happened after that one liner. Never seen that movie again since. How ya doin', you old pirate? So good to see you!
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Mar 7, 2018 8:34:46 GMT
LOL! What was wrong with his acting!?! Everything! Clooney's Batman had no personality. He just aimlessly wandered through the movie deadpanning lines. Sometimes he honestly looked lost. Sometimes the expression on his face was one of a person who wasn't even sure they were on the right movie set. Even Clooney admitted his acting in that movie sucked. And I'd rather an actor do that then try and tell me that some turd that they were in is really a Belgian chocolate masterpiece shaped like animal droppings for artistic reasons - and it smells like an overused port-a-potty because it's making an artistic commitment to strong olfactory stimulation - and I'm allegedly to stupid to appreciate it. I've seen enough of that kind of behavior from actors and filmmakers recently. And it just shows that they don't know how to take constructive criticism from their audience when they make a bad movie, or a movie with some problematic elements. Heh! Don't get me started about this movie! Arnold Schwartzanegger cracked so many one liners in that movie that when it got close to the end of movie I said "If he cracks one more one-liner I'm getting up and walking out the theatre!" In a scene that should've had serious, emotional gravitas about Mr. Freeze feelings about his wife and admitting his wrongdoing - sure enough he did... "Take two of these and call me in the morning!" or some ridiculously cliche one-liner close to that. But that was a microcosm of the entire film. It was campy, cliched, and deadpan to obnoxious levels. It beat you over the head with it. And then I promptly got up and walked out. Never seen what happened after that one liner. Never seen that movie again since. How ya doin', you old pirate? So good to see you! Alright you old smoothie!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2018 10:18:21 GMT
Eh wrong. Firstly it's a dc movie, so call it as such. It is DC's embarrassment. It is really campy and badly written. If you have to cast Arnold as a Batman villain then you know something's wrong. Geez those ice puns...
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Post by thenewnexus on Mar 7, 2018 11:35:13 GMT
Eh wrong. Firstly it's a dc movie, so call it as such. It is DC's embarrassment. It is really campy and badly written. If you have to cast Arnold as a Batman villain then you know something's wrong. Geez those ice puns... Almost every mcu movie is campy. Star lord showing his dance moves is just as bad. What about in Age Ultron Capt says oh shit and is told to watch his langauge. Ultron is doing stand up. At the end of the movie Stark is trying to be funny even though Quick Silver died
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 7, 2018 12:30:27 GMT
Almost every mcu movie is campy. So true to the comics, unlike Punisher which is ashamed of itself. Happens in real life. People have personalities.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 7, 2018 15:46:20 GMT
Almost every mcu movie is campy. So true to the comics, unlike Punisher which is ashamed of itself. Happens in real life. People have personalities. Which incarnation of Punisher are you referring to here?
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 7, 2018 15:59:15 GMT
So true to the comics, unlike Punisher which is ashamed of itself. Happens in real life. People have personalities. Which incarnation of Punisher are you referring to here? Netflix.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 7, 2018 18:16:23 GMT
Which incarnation of Punisher are you referring to here? Netflix. Oh. You don't care for that? I've not seen it. Isn't it a canon part of the MCU along with the rest of the Netflix content?
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 7, 2018 19:08:16 GMT
Oh. You don't care for that? I've not seen it. Isn't it a canon part of the MCU along with the rest of the Netflix content? I haven't seen it yet, know him mainly from DD S2.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Mar 7, 2018 20:53:14 GMT
Eh wrong. Firstly it's a dc movie, so call it as such. It is DC's embarrassment. It is really campy and badly written. If you have to cast Arnold as a Batman villain then you know something's wrong. Geez those ice puns... Almost every mcu movie is campy. Star lord showing his dance moves is just as bad. What about in Age Ultron Capt says oh shit and is told to watch his langauge. Ultron is doing stand up. At the end of the movie Stark is trying to be funny even though Quick Silver died That's not what happened.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Mar 7, 2018 20:54:45 GMT
Nonsensical characters motivations, ridiculous acting, and a lead who didn't even understand his character (Clooney). What was wrong with Clooney? And speaking of him, I wish he would defend the movie. I don't know why actors talk crap about their own movies. Show a little pride. Tell the critics to fuck off. Say you had a blast and that you loved being Batman and that it was worth it if even one kid enjoyed the movie. Why? What if he doesn't feel that way? He should lie just to make onethreetwo happy?
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Post by PreachCaleb on Mar 7, 2018 20:56:06 GMT
What was wrong with Clooney? And speaking of him, I wish he would defend the movie. I don't know why actors talk crap about their own movies. Show a little pride. Tell the critics to fuck off. Say you had a blast and that you loved being Batman and that it was worth it if even one kid enjoyed the movie. He said that it was time for Bruce to get over his parents' deaths and try to move on with his life, IIRC...Bruce is defined by his inability to get over things, he's defined by his obsessions. Say what you will about Batman and Robin, I think the scenes between Bruce and Alfred are genuinely touching. Especially when Alfred tells Bruce his one regret was that he's never been able to be out there with him being a hero. Those scenes belong in a much better movie.
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Post by Nalkarj on Mar 7, 2018 21:01:21 GMT
Ça m’amuse, blockbusted. Seriously, though, I don’t hate Batman and Robin as much as many others do; I think it’s better than Batman Forever, for example.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Mar 7, 2018 21:29:29 GMT
Why? What if he doesn't feel that way? He should lie just to make onethreetwo happy? Lie is such a harsh word. But yes he should. And while he's lying to make me happy, he should look inward and examine his real feelings about the movie. Does he really hate it as much as he says? Or is he embarrassed that he was in a movie that was panned? Did he hate making it? Did he hate being Batman? Or does he regret being in a movie that was panned? And that's how lies transform into beautiful truths, Caaaaaallllleeeeb. Nah. Not worth it.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Mar 7, 2018 22:55:21 GMT
Eh wrong. Firstly it's a dc movie, so call it as such. It is DC's embarrassment. It is really campy and badly written. If you have to cast Arnold as a Batman villain then you know something's wrong. Geez those ice puns... Almost every mcu movie is campy. Star lord showing his dance moves is just as bad. What about in Age Ultron Capt says oh shit and is told to watch his langauge. Ultron is doing stand up. At the end of the movie Stark is trying to be funny even though Quick Silver died Already covered why Starlord showing off his dance moves isn't as bad as Arnold as Mr. Freeze( Looks like you ignored that). Captain America complaining about bad language is to illustrate how old fashioned and how much of a boy scout he is compared to the rest of the team. Don't know what movie you watched, but I wouldn't describe Ultron as being a comedic type of character, his sense of humor mirrored his personality which was pessimistic, cold, and narcissistic. Would you have preferred if he talked like HAL, instead? Wouldn't have worked for the film. Stark didn't have an emotional connection to Quicksilver, he was also nowhere near him he died, and keep in mind they were still trying to stop Ultron.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Mar 7, 2018 23:12:35 GMT
Why? What if he doesn't feel that way? He should lie just to make onethreetwo happy? Lie is such a harsh word. But yes he should. And while he's lying to make me happy, he should look inward and examine his real feelings about the movie. Does he really hate it as much as he says? Or is he embarrassed that he was in a movie that was panned? Did he hate making it? Did he hate being Batman? Or does he regret being in a movie that was panned? And that's how lies transform into beautiful truths, Caaaaaallllleeeeb. It's viewed by many to be the worst superhero movie ever made, it is easily the worst Batman movie ever made, and its a popular opinion of many that it is blockbuster cinema at its very worst, and of all the things to fondly remember of the 90's it is not one of them. So why bother saying anything positive about it? It wasn't some random film of the week that came and went, it was a major release that was expected to make millions and was promoted like hell. It was also twenty years ago, what is the point in defending it now? Clooney's made better career choices since and he remains to be one of the most well-known and respected leading men in the industry currently - saying his worst film is of good quality isn't going to paint a good image of him. It's also known that the production of it was bizarre and unusual, Clooney not only says so but so do Joel Schumacher, Akiva Goldsman, and Chris O'Donnell. Literally the only person I can think of who didn't hate working on the movie was Uma Thurman because she thought playing such a campy, larger than life, supervillain was a challenge, but please note she's never called it good.
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