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Post by mrellaguru on Apr 15, 2019 14:18:46 GMT
Geeky stuff sells if it's full of sex and violence.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 15, 2019 14:37:16 GMT
It has to do primarily with a show being good and enjoyed by a lot of people (Far more people do not watch Game of Thrones than watch it though) But DD is good and people still get the side eye for liking it. well those are entirely different formats. An hour long drama cannot compared to the dedication needed to master either of those things. If Game of Thrones were an actual game it wouldn’t be near as popular.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 15, 2019 14:40:13 GMT
i thought it was a great setup episode. As much as I hate Jon’s chosen one storyline it handled it in a kinda decent way. The reality is that the story sucks now but the acting, dialogue, and effects are a great combo for entertaining me. I hope and pray there are twists that rivaled the first half of the series.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 15, 2019 14:43:15 GMT
It has to do primarily with a show being good and enjoyed by a lot of people (Far more people do not watch Game of Thrones than watch it though) "Being good" is rarely the reason for such a sensational popularity. There are much better shows which lasted 2 or 3 seasons and never achieved a fraction of GoT's fan-base. I disagree. I think most popular things have to at least be good and that is certainly the case with buzz worthy shows. That is not the same thing as great shows not being popular.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 14:45:19 GMT
But DD is good and people still get the side eye for liking it. well those are entirely different formats. An hour long drama cannot compared to the dedication needed to master either of those things. If Game of Thrones were an actual game it wouldn’t be near as popular. Plenty of GoT games now, cardgames and boardgames. Several are quite popular and very good.
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Post by Winter_King on Apr 15, 2019 15:00:23 GMT
well those are entirely different formats. An hour long drama cannot compared to the dedication needed to master either of those things. If Game of Thrones were an actual game it wouldn’t be near as popular. Plenty of GoT games now, cardgames and boardgames. Several are quite popular and very good. I've heard that the boardgame is pretty good. I myself have the Risk version of Game of Thrones which has a map of Westeros for five person game, a map of Essos for a two player game and you can combine both maps if one is playing with six other players.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 15:04:15 GMT
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 15, 2019 15:05:13 GMT
well those are entirely different formats. An hour long drama cannot compared to the dedication needed to master either of those things. If Game of Thrones were an actual game it wouldn’t be near as popular. Plenty of GoT games now, cardgames and boardgames. Several are quite popular and very good. They exist as a subset based on the popularity of the tv show and books. Those are going to have the larger audiences since those are where the story originated. Maybe the board game is more popular but that would be highly unusual.
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Post by simianscrote on Apr 15, 2019 15:10:29 GMT
There is more boobs and sex in the average midnight commercials on TV here. Not even worth mentioning imho. Boobs are one thing, but there is nothing more awkward than watching Game of Thrones with your parents and Littlefinger goes on a soliloquy while two lesbian prostitutes lick each other's bums. whats awkward about that?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 15:12:00 GMT
Plenty of GoT games now, cardgames and boardgames. Several are quite popular and very good. I've heard that the boardgame is pretty good. I myself have the Risk version of Game of Thrones which has a map of Westeros for five person game, a map of Essos for a two player game and you can combine both maps if one is playing with six other players. I’ve got the first and second edition of the boardgame, it’s a tough game, same principles like Diplomacy. You need to work together yet always keep your eye on the price, so betrayal is vital. At the right time, that is. It’s a good one, but takes time and not all of my fellow players have the patience for it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 15:13:02 GMT
Plenty of GoT games now, cardgames and boardgames. Several are quite popular and very good. They exist as a subset based on the popularity of the tv show and books. Those are going to have the larger audiences since those are where the story originated. Maybe the board game is more popular but that would be highly unusual. No boardgame will have the popularity of a succesful tv series, but the boardgame and cardgame do try their hardest.
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Post by Winter_King on Apr 15, 2019 15:13:41 GMT
I've heard that the boardgame is pretty good. I myself have the Risk version of Game of Thrones which has a map of Westeros for five person game, a map of Essos for a two player game and you can combine both maps if one is playing with six other players. I’ve got the first and second edition of the boardgame, it’s a tough game, same principles like Diplomacy. You need to work together yet always keep your eye on the price, so betrayal is vital. At the right time, that is. It’s a good one, but takes time and not all of my fellow players have the patience for it. I have the same problem with Axis and Allies. Good game but the time takes to set it up and play the game turns a lot of people off.
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 15, 2019 15:23:24 GMT
It's corporate hype. People watch it because "any port in a storm" and there's no other port. It's very un-European in sensibility.
European is Beowulf (the warrior who sets out from the village to deal with a threat). From what I hear, all of the male characters on the show are fails, evil, neurotics etc. Much like the Sopranos actually. Same kind of philosophy. The show ends with the idea that Tony is beyond helping.
Heaven forbid they do something culturally natural/traditional.
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Post by Winter_King on Apr 15, 2019 15:31:16 GMT
It's corporate hype. People watch it because "any port in a storm" and there's no other port. It's very un-European in sensibility. European is Beowulf (the warrior who sets out from the village to deal with a threat). From what I hear, all of the male characters on the show are fails, evil, neurotics etc. Much like the Sopranos actually. Same kind of philosophy. The show ends with the idea that Tony is beyond helping. Heaven forbid they do something culturally natural/traditional. It's amazing how you see this as "un-European" while others think that the problem is that there aren't enough people of color or that Dany storyline is the typical white savior narrative. That's why most of these complains are silly and not worth listening to. I remember the show being criticized by SJWs and feminists during season five only to have the exact reverse happening in season 6 with anti SJWs complaining about the feminist agenda.
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Post by darkramk on Apr 15, 2019 15:33:47 GMT
It's mostly blood and boobs + great production values. I was about to comment agreeing with the OP, it could have been the kind of thing I'd get into but didn't yada yada...
But there's boobs? I may have to check it out.
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Post by Winter_King on Apr 15, 2019 15:35:58 GMT
It's mostly blood and boobs + great production values. I was about to comment agreeing with the OP, it could have been the kind of thing I'd get into but didn't yada yada...
But there's boobs? I may have to check it out.
Nudity has been toned down as the seasons go but the first and second season had plenty of nudity, that they even coined the term "sexposition" to describe scenes where a character is explaining something while naked people are in the background.
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Post by darkramk on Apr 15, 2019 15:39:33 GMT
I was about to comment agreeing with the OP, it could have been the kind of thing I'd get into but didn't yada yada...
But there's boobs? I may have to check it out.
Nudity has been toned down as the seasons go but the first and second season had plenty of nudity, that they even coined the term "sexposition" to describe scenes where a character is explaining something while naked people are in the background. Really? I was kinda joking. That makes me happy with my decision not to check it out.
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Post by Winter_King on Apr 15, 2019 15:50:24 GMT
Nudity has been toned down as the seasons go but the first and second season had plenty of nudity, that they even coined the term "sexposition" to describe scenes where a character is explaining something while naked people are in the background. Really? I was kinda joking. That makes me happy with my decision not to check it out. Like I said, it ended up being toned out. It's still HBO so boobs are still guaranteed to make several appearances. And while I can't know if you would like it, I still think you should check it out.
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 15, 2019 15:54:46 GMT
It's amazing how you see this as "un-European" while others think that the problem is that there aren't enough people of color or that Dany storyline is the typical white savior narrative. That's why most of these complains are silly and not worth listening to. I remember the show being criticized by SJWs and feminists during season five only to have the exact reverse happening in season 6 with anti SJWs complaining about the feminist agenda. Well the other complaints are (in part) politically motivated and encouraged by the media, the claims that it is unEuropean is not. Depictions of white male failure is never discussed in the media. BTW it does to varying degree--affect depictions of other races too though-- the Rock's character in the Scorpion King has some of that--and even the Black Panther suggested the super powers of Wakanda was due in part to an alien meteor--which was not in the original concept-he was one of the very few natural heroes in Marvel).
How many times I have been challenged on this and all I can do is say--show me the Errol Flynn Robin Hood type in these shows. The handsome, tall, positive authority figure male, good-natured hero guy who is victorious. The Stewart Granger, Richard Greene etc..
I noticed before that the prominent women on the show don't have the "Judi Bowker/Julie Andrews/Diana Rigg" type which used to be a common look for an English actress (i.e. small nose). They seem to steer anyway from that anglo look and emphasize eccentric appearances.
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Post by darkramk on Apr 15, 2019 15:57:50 GMT
Really? I was kinda joking. That makes me happy with my decision not to check it out. Like I said, it ended up being toned out. It's still HBO so boobs are still guaranteed to make several appearances. And while I can't know if you would like it, I still think you should check it out. Meh. I'm sure it's awesome, I'm just the sort of fellow that sees everyone looking in one direction and wants to look in the other on account of it. On the other hand I'm just not into soap operas no matter how cool the costumes (or lack of, in point of fact) may be.
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