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Post by Aj_June on May 11, 2019 3:50:33 GMT
Did the Catholic Bishop say that Jews are responsible for pedo problems within RCC? Yes, he did. Was he right in saying that. Only in the world of crazy anti-Semitic scumbags and lunatics. Just because the OP linked an article from Jewish site doesn't mean the story is incorrect. It can be read from left leaning trusted websites. Now comes the second question. Did the 1911 Zionist congress say what the fucktard Catholic Bishop said it said? No, it didn't. That in fact comes from 1937 article by anti-Semitic sources. The Jewish Bishop is a piece of crap. He is an open-anti Semite and a crazy man. So in all this whole story is about a Catholic Bishop slandering Jews. All we need to do is condemn him. But nah, we have to also talk about bad Jews. Of course there are bad and good people in all religion. But that doesn't justify a creepy bishop slandering a community with absurd charges that apparently they are causing pedo problems inside their shity church. Imagine if all threads started like this. So a Christian attacked a Muslim place of Worship. The Christian posters writes but are all Muslims good? Do they not to bad things. Oh well.....great logic. The Bishop is a scumbag and any normal decent human being will call him out rather than turning it into both sides are bad game. WTF are you talking about? There is nothing good about this whole issue, as it rehashed a long history of inter-faith problems. I never said anything about 'bad ews' and I am not any more anti-Semitic than I am against all religious nonsense. It leads to shit like this and is totally unnecessary. Oh, all you needed to do was condemn the fucking bishop who made a slanderous comment. Instead of simply doing that you charged the OP of being a partisan and insinuated that Jews are always acting like they are the victims. We know which bigots use that language. You are an idiot of the biggest order, freak.
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Post by goz on May 11, 2019 3:57:07 GMT
What's this "both sides of the argument"? There's only one side and there's no argument. Bishop Andrzej Jeż of the city of Tarnów, southeast of Kraków did in fact give an Easter sermon where he denounced some Jewish plot that was created in 1911. According to the Bishop, this Jewish scheme is what's behind the bad media coverage the RCC has received regarding the problem of child sexual abuse by priests. That's what the Jewish Press said and it accurately summarized what the Bishop said. Bishop Jez showed himself to be a liar and a fool. The remarks he attributed to some 1911 Zionist conference were fabricated just as were the Protocols of Zion. If, however, the Bishop's detractors (myself included) are mistaken he should demonstrate the truth stated in whatever 1937 book he used. He should make us look ridiculous while demonstrating what a diligent researcher he is. He won't and he can't because his source is useless, the 1911 remarks were never made, and he's a stupid liar. "I find it disturbing that this article is published by the 'Jewish Press' in an apologist manner." What is that supposed to mean? The Jewish Press report was accurate as far as I can tell. From you perspective, where is some apologist manner distortion in the report? Just lack of reading comprehension skills and usual antisemitic horse dung. So some Christian religious leader says Jews are causing all the problems in the world. The Jewish press shouldn't report it because the Bishop might be right. The world is full of crackpots and idiots. In your ignorance you ignore what I have stated, that there is more to this story than meets the eye. There is a long running feud between the ews and Catolics in Poland and NOONE is blameless. It just happened to be this story that was published here by the OP. A little more information
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Post by goz on May 11, 2019 3:58:26 GMT
WTF are you talking about? There is nothing good about this whole issue, as it rehashed a long history of inter-faith problems. I never said anything about 'bad ews' and I am not any more anti-Semitic than I am against all religious nonsense. It leads to shit like this and is totally unnecessary. Oh, all you needed to do was condemn the fucking bishop who made a slanderous comment. Instead of simply doing that you charged the OP of being a partisan and insinuated that Jews are always acting like they are the victims. We know which bigots use that language. You are an idiot of the biggest order, freak. It is NOT that simple read my last post that crossed with yours. You are ignorant of the facts on this occasion. I demand an apology.
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Post by Aj_June on May 11, 2019 3:58:48 GMT
And the bishop got from a 1937 article asserting that this statement was made at the 1911 congress. But I've yet to find it. Even so, let's be very lax for a moment, and suppose that an attendee of the Zionist Congress said such a thing. Does that mean the ZC should be held to account? Only if the ZC, as a body, included that sentiment in their stated principles or drafted resolutions. On the other hand, if the ZC trash canned the statement as the simple raving of a disreputable extremist, then they can't be rightly condemned.
Hey folks....A Buddhist monk says something disparaging about Muslims. Next thing you do is slander the OP who posts that news and tell him that Muslims are always acting like victims. oh, well, instead of this me-me-you-you fight you could have simply condemned the Buddhist monk who made base and slanderous comment about the Muslims. This is the logic here. LOL.
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Post by Aj_June on May 11, 2019 4:00:50 GMT
Just lack of reading comprehension skills and usual antisemitic horse dung. So some Christian religious leader says Jews are causing all the problems in the world. The Jewish press shouldn't report it because the Bishop might be right. The world is full of crackpots and idiots. In your ignorance you ignore what I have stated, that there is more to this story than meets the eye. There is a long running feud between the ews and Catolics in Poland and NOONE is blameless. It just happened to be this story that was published here by the OP. A little more information That story tells nothing. There is history involved between all groups of people. Nothing exclusive to Polish Jews and Polish Christians. The Bishop made an anti-Semitic slanderous allegations on Jews and all that was to it.
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Post by Aj_June on May 11, 2019 4:01:24 GMT
Oh, all you needed to do was condemn the fucking bishop who made a slanderous comment. Instead of simply doing that you charged the OP of being a partisan and insinuated that Jews are always acting like they are the victims. We know which bigots use that language. You are an idiot of the biggest order, freak. It is NOT that simple read my last post that crossed with yours. You are ignorant of the facts on this occasion. I demand an apology.
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Post by goz on May 11, 2019 4:09:55 GMT
In your ignorance you ignore what I have stated, that there is more to this story than meets the eye. There is a long running feud between the ews and Catolics in Poland and NOONE is blameless. It just happened to be this story that was published here by the OP. A little more information That story tells nothing. There is history involved between all groups of people. Nothing exclusive to Polish Jews and Polish Christians. The Bishop made an anti-Semitic slanderous allegations on Jews and all that was to it. Nice defensive backdown. You were ignorant of the history and facts of this case as it is unique between the Jews and the Catholics in Poland and the hangover from the Holocaust and the extreme defensiveness of the Catholic Church in Poland in terms if BOTH the paedophile scandals AND the guilt that the Conservative Right Wing Government is trying to diffuse. The Jews push this barrow AND BLAME Poland for what happened in WW2 under the Nazis. As I said right at the 'get go' there are two side to every story PARTICULARLY this one. An apology would be nice.
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Post by Aj_June on May 11, 2019 4:12:13 GMT
That story tells nothing. There is history involved between all groups of people. Nothing exclusive to Polish Jews and Polish Christians. The Bishop made an anti-Semitic slanderous allegations on Jews and all that was to it. Nice defensive backdown. You were ignorant of the history and facts of this case as it is unique between the Jews and the Catholics in Poland and the hangover from the Holocaust and the extreme defensiveness of the Catholic Church in Poland in terms if BOTH the paedophile scandals AND the guilt that the Conservative Right Wing Government is trying to diffuse. The Jews push this barrow AND BLAME Poland for what happened in WW2 under the Nazis. As I said right at the 'get go' there are two side to every story PARTICULARLY this one. An apology would be nice. More bullshit from an idiot who turns an anti-Semitic story into OP is partisan nonsense. Yeah, shameless idiot.
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Post by goz on May 11, 2019 4:20:29 GMT
Nice defensive backdown. You were ignorant of the history and facts of this case as it is unique between the Jews and the Catholics in Poland and the hangover from the Holocaust and the extreme defensiveness of the Catholic Church in Poland in terms if BOTH the paedophile scandals AND the guilt that the Conservative Right Wing Government is trying to diffuse. The Jews push this barrow AND BLAME Poland for what happened in WW2 under the Nazis. As I said right at the 'get go' there are two side to every story PARTICULARLY this one. An apology would be nice. More bullshit from an idiot who turns an anti-Semitic story into OP is partisan nonsense. Yeah, shameless idiot. … and yet that is precisely what it was. It was a partisan article in a Jewish newspaper TOTALLY ignoring the history of the two protagonists which goes back 100 years ( and more) and had got to a critical state last year NOT helped by the new government. A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. I happen to know a fair bit about this situation as I have spoken to family in Poland about it and I am a student of history. It is my passion. What happened under the Nazis is one of THE most sensitive subjects in Europe even now, so be very wary of your sources. To the Germans and the Poles ( amongst others however they bear most of the criticism) it is still an open sore. I really thought better of you than this.
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Post by Aj_June on May 11, 2019 4:23:40 GMT
More bullshit from an idiot who turns an anti-Semitic story into OP is partisan nonsense. Yeah, shameless idiot. … and yet that is precisely what it was. It was a partisan article in a Jewish newspaper TOTALLY ignoring the history of the two protagonists which goes back 100 years ( and more) and had got to a critical state last year NOT helped by the new government. A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. I happen to know a fair bit about this situation as I have spoken to family in Poland about it and I am a student of history. It is my passion. What happened under the Nazis is one of THE most sensitive subjects in Europe even now, so be very wary of your sources. To the Germans and the Poles ( amongst others however they bear most of the criticism) it is still an open sore. I really thought better of you than this. You are a complete loon. It was an incidence of a Catholic Bishop making typical libellous slander on Jews. If a Hindu religious leader makes slanderous comments on Muslims as a group, one is supposed to call that Hindu out rather than cite 1000 years of conflict between Hindu and Muslims.
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Post by goz on May 11, 2019 4:38:06 GMT
… and yet that is precisely what it was. It was a partisan article in a Jewish newspaper TOTALLY ignoring the history of the two protagonists which goes back 100 years ( and more) and had got to a critical state last year NOT helped by the new government. A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. I happen to know a fair bit about this situation as I have spoken to family in Poland about it and I am a student of history. It is my passion. What happened under the Nazis is one of THE most sensitive subjects in Europe even now, so be very wary of your sources. To the Germans and the Poles ( amongst others however they bear most of the criticism) it is still an open sore. I really thought better of you than this. You are a complete loon. It was an incidence of a Catholic Bishop making typical libellous slander on Jews. If a Hindu religious leader makes slanderous comments on Muslims as a group, one is supposed to call that Hindu out rather than cite 1000 years of conflict between Hindu and Muslims. … and yet that is precisely what it was. It was a partisan article in a Jewish newspaper TOTALLY ignoring the history of the two protagonists which goes back 100 years ( and more) and had got to a critical state last year NOT helped by the new government. A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. I happen to know a fair bit about this situation as I have spoken to family in Poland about it and I am a student of history. It is my passion. What happened under the Nazis is one of THE most sensitive subjects in Europe even now, so be very wary of your sources. To the Germans and the Poles ( amongst others however they bear most of the criticism) it is still an open sore. I really thought better of you than this. You are a complete loon. It was an incidence of a Catholic Bishop making typical libellous slander on Jews. If a Hindu religious leader makes slanderous comments on Muslims as a group, one is supposed to call that Hindu out rather than cite 1000 years of conflict between Hindu and Muslims. What absolute rubbish. This is all about the relationship between Jews and Catholics in Poland. It is a long standing dispute which has recently become acute. www.rt.com/news/451512-netanyahu-poland-collaboration-nazis/[/quote] EVEN the Prime Minister of Israel blames the Poles for collaboration with the Nazis. It has been tit for tat between the Jews and the Catholics...the OP was just one incident in a long running feud. OF COURSE there are two sides to the argument.
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Post by Aj_June on May 11, 2019 4:42:02 GMT
You are a complete loon. It was an incidence of a Catholic Bishop making typical libellous slander on Jews. If a Hindu religious leader makes slanderous comments on Muslims as a group, one is supposed to call that Hindu out rather than cite 1000 years of conflict between Hindu and Muslims. You are a complete loon. It was an incidence of a Catholic Bishop making typical libellous slander on Jews. If a Hindu religious leader makes slanderous comments on Muslims as a group, one is supposed to call that Hindu out rather than cite 1000 years of conflict between Hindu and Muslims. What absolute rubbish. This is all about the relationship between Jews and Catholics in Poland. It is a long standing dispute which has recently become acute. www.rt.com/news/451512-netanyahu-poland-collaboration-nazis/ EVEN the Prime Minister of Israel blames the Poles for collaboration with the Nazis. It has been tit for tat between the Jews and the Catholics...the OP was just one incident in a long running feud. OF COURSE there are two sides to the argument. [/quote] Once again presenting case for your stupidity. Moron, there is history attached to relations between all communities. That doesn't mean any person's idiotic and slanderous remarks are equated to Jews are playing victim game.
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Post by goz on May 11, 2019 6:36:07 GMT
EVEN the Prime Minister of Israel blames the Poles for collaboration with the Nazis. It has been tit for tat between the Jews and the Catholics...the OP was just one incident in a long running feud. OF COURSE there are two sides to the argument. Once again presenting case for your stupidity. Moron, there is history attached to relations between all communities. That doesn't mean any person's idiotic and slanderous remarks are equated to Jews are playing victim game.[/quote] Why are the Jews blaming the Poles( especially the Catholics) and NOT the Nazis who were Germans?
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Post by Aj_June on May 11, 2019 6:42:31 GMT
EVEN the Prime Minister of Israel blames the Poles for collaboration with the Nazis. It has been tit for tat between the Jews and the Catholics...the OP was just one incident in a long running feud. OF COURSE there are two sides to the argument. Once again presenting case for your stupidity. Moron, there is history attached to relations between all communities. That doesn't mean any person's idiotic and slanderous remarks are equated to Jews are playing victim game. Why are the Jews blaming the Poles( especially the Catholics) and NOT the Nazis who were Germans? Create a topic about that troll. Typical disingenuous troll. An antisemite makes horrible and false allegation on Jews and you try to equate both sides with the blame game. Silly 10 years old, when a Buddhist or a Hindu radical makes disparaging comments on Muslims, I condemn that Buddhist or the Hindu. I don't ask a silly question like do Muslims commit terror acts? The Bishop's slander and antisemitism is not justified except only for the bigots.
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Post by goz on May 11, 2019 7:04:59 GMT
Once again presenting case for your stupidity. Moron, there is history attached to relations between all communities. That doesn't mean any person's idiotic and slanderous remarks are equated to Jews are playing victim game. Why are the Jews blaming the Poles( especially the Catholics) and NOT the Nazis who were Germans? Create a topic about that troll. Typical disingenuous troll. An antisemite makes horrible and false allegation on Jews and you try to equate both sides with the blame game. Silly 10 years old, when a Buddhist or a Hindu radical makes disparaging comments on Muslims, I condemn that Buddhist or the Hindu. I don't ask a silly question like do Muslims commit terror acts? The Bishop's slander and antisemitism is not justified except only for the bigots. I don't give a shit about your stupid Buddhist Hindu crapola. The topic is the feud between Jews and polish Catholics of which only one side was represented in the OP. No-one on this thread except me was aware of the history which explained situation. Get over yourself.
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Post by Aj_June on May 11, 2019 7:08:22 GMT
Create a topic about that troll. Typical disingenuous troll. An antisemite makes horrible and false allegation on Jews and you try to equate both sides with the blame game. Silly 10 years old, when a Buddhist or a Hindu radical makes disparaging comments on Muslims, I condemn that Buddhist or the Hindu. I don't ask a silly question like do Muslims commit terror acts? The Bishop's slander and antisemitism is not justified except only for the bigots. I don't give a shit about your stupid Buddhist Hindu crapola. The topic is the feud between Jews and polish Catholics of which only one side was represented in the OP. No-one on this thread except me was aware of the history which explained situation. Get over yourself. I don't give a crap about your silly nonsense. The topic is a Catholic Bishop and his hateful slander on Jews. He also used a libelous false (and likely Nazi) document from 1937 to spread his propaganda. I only exposed your bigotry and your stupidity, troll.
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Post by goz on May 11, 2019 7:29:02 GMT
I don't give a shit about your stupid Buddhist Hindu crapola. The topic is the feud between Jews and polish Catholics of which only one side was represented in the OP. No-one on this thread except me was aware of the history which explained situation. Get over yourself. I don't give a crap about your silly nonsense. The topic is a Catholic Bishop and his hateful slander on Jews. He also used a libelous false (and likely Nazi) document from 1937 to spread his propaganda. I only exposed your bigotry and your stupidity, troll. What the Catholic Bishop said was wrong however it was only a part of the continuing feud which was not referred to until I made people aware of it on the thread. I think you have lost the plot. The more defensive and abusive posters get when they realise that they may have been both wrong and hasty, exemplifies this series of your abusive posting to me.
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Post by Aj_June on May 11, 2019 7:33:38 GMT
I don't give a crap about your silly nonsense. The topic is a Catholic Bishop and his hateful slander on Jews. He also used a libelous false (and likely Nazi) document from 1937 to spread his propaganda. I only exposed your bigotry and your stupidity, troll. What the Catholic Bishop said was wrong however it was only a part of the continuing feud which was not referred to until I made people aware of it on the thread. I think you have lost the plot. The more defensive and abusive posters get when they realise that they may have been both wrong and hasty, exemplifies this series of your abusive posting to me.Yo You didn't have any plot from the beginning except your stupidity. The topic was about an idiotic statement which is completely and totally irrational (that Jews are responsible for pedo problems of RCC). All communities that live in Europe have history between them so keep your historical angle bluff with yourself. Next when one makes racist comment then instead of condemning the racist make statements that the victims are also creating problems and so there are two sides to the arguments!
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Post by goz on May 11, 2019 7:39:36 GMT
What the Catholic Bishop said was wrong however it was only a part of the continuing feud which was not referred to until I made people aware of it on the thread. I think you have lost the plot. The more defensive and abusive posters get when they realise that they may have been both wrong and hasty, exemplifies this series of your abusive posting to me.Yo You didn't have any plot from the beginning except your stupidity. The topic was about an idiotic statement which is completely and totally irrational (that Jews are responsible for pedo problems of RCC). All communities that live in Europe have history between them so keep your historical angle bluff with yourself. Next when one makes racist comment then instead of condemning the racist make statements that the victims are also creating problems and so there are two sides to the arguments! I will say this simply... The OP only represented a case for one side when there were two sides to this issue. I made people aware of this. I have agreed what the Bishop said was wrong however it was provoked due to the long standing situation in Poland of which people on this thread were unaware. I gave evidence of this and so now people would be able to have a more knowledgeable, informed view about a situation which is both incredibly sensitive AND ongoing.
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Post by Aj_June on May 11, 2019 7:45:40 GMT
You didn't have any plot from the beginning except your stupidity. The topic was about an idiotic statement which is completely and totally irrational (that Jews are responsible for pedo problems of RCC). All communities that live in Europe have history between them so keep your historical angle bluff with yourself. Next when one makes racist comment then instead of condemning the racist make statements that the victims are also creating problems and so there are two sides to the arguments! I will say this simply... The OP only represented a case for one side when there were two sides to this issue. I made people aware of this. I have agreed what the Bishop said was wrong however it was provoked due to the long standing situation in Poland of which people on this thread were unaware. I gave evidence of this and so now people would be able to have a more knowledgeable, informed view about a situation which is both incredibly sensitive AND ongoing. The OP simply posted about a bigot who made an irrational and hateful statement about Jews. Nothing justifies the statement of that Bishop.
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