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Post by Isapop on May 12, 2019 13:44:38 GMT
So then, because the Jewish press has a particular interest in reporting what the bishop told his assembly, that creates a moral equivalence between the bishop's libel and the reporting of it, just a pissing match, typical religious bigotry shown on both sides? No, it doesn't. Not at all.
What caused the Bishop to make those claims? I don't know what his motivations or thinking was when he decided to make those claims, and I wouldn't presume to speculate. But no cause would make his claims any less untrue.
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Post by goz on May 12, 2019 21:33:52 GMT
What caused the Bishop to make those claims? I don't know what his motivations or thinking was when he decided to make those claims, and I wouldn't presume to speculate. But no cause would make his claims any less untrue.
Yes, butt why would he bother to make these claims in the first place? That is the whole point. I have always said what the bishop said was wrong. 2nd question. Why didn't the OP post one of the more balanced links to the situation that I posted, (readily available) rather than the biased anti Catholic one which portrayed only half the issue of extreme dissention between International Jews and the Catholic Church in particular and Poles in general including the Polish Government and people? 3rd question. Why was there no mention of the Catholic Church's expressed outrage at the burning of Judas effigy which happened at about the same time? Ester 2019. www.timesofisrael.com/polands-catholic-church-condemns-jewish-effigy-ritual/To me this is evidence of not only the tensions involved but a side by side effort to mend those tensions, ignored by the OP. In other words the said Bishop was an extremist and perhaps rogue voice, however NOT representative of the entire situation as I have tried to point out to the bigots on here.
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Post by politicidal on May 12, 2019 21:39:26 GMT
So then, because the Jewish press has a particular interest in reporting what the bishop told his assembly, that creates a moral equivalence between the bishop's libel and the reporting of it, just a pissing match, typical religious bigotry shown on both sides? No, it doesn't. Not at all.
What caused the Bishop to make those claims? He's an asshole, is it really that hard?
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Post by goz on May 12, 2019 22:34:23 GMT
What caused the Bishop to make those claims? He's an asshole, is it really that hard? Possibly, however there is a long history of mutual assholery between the Jews and the Catholic Poles.....it is just another episode of assholery in a long litany of assholery!
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Post by Isapop on May 13, 2019 0:10:06 GMT
You and I could say that, but it wouldn't matter. My first post here was just one question: Do we know of any high level Catholic leaders denouncing this? What matters is whether he is called out by his peers and by the Vatican.
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Post by goz on May 13, 2019 1:38:06 GMT
He's an asshole, is it really that hard? Possibly, however there is a long history of mutual assholery between the Jews and the Catholic Poles.....it is just another episode of assholery in a long litany of assholery! I don't know and it is possibly difficult to find out because of the traditional arse covering that goes on in the Catholic Church, however it should be noted as I did in a link above that the Catholic Church denounced the burning of Jewish effigies representing Judas at about the same time.
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Post by goz on May 13, 2019 1:39:00 GMT
You and I could say that, but it wouldn't matter. My first post here was just one question: Do we know of any high level Catholic leaders denouncing this? What matters is whether he is called out by his peers and by the Vatican. sorry replied wrong post: I don't know and it is possibly difficult to find out because of the traditional arse covering that goes on in the Catholic Church, however it should be noted as I did in a link above that the Catholic Church denounced the burning of Jewish effigies representing Judas at about the same time.
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Post by politicidal on May 13, 2019 1:40:53 GMT
He's an asshole, is it really that hard? Possibly, however there is a long history of mutual assholery between the Jews and the Catholic Poles.....it is just another episode of assholery in a long litany of assholery! So because of historic tensions, he's free to make antisemitic remarks?
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Post by goz on May 13, 2019 1:45:10 GMT
Possibly, however there is a long history of mutual assholery between the Jews and the Catholic Poles.....it is just another episode of assholery in a long litany of assholery! So because of historic tensions, he's free to make antisemitic remarks? No, butt he did.
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Post by Aj_June on May 13, 2019 3:48:59 GMT
Possibly, however there is a long history of mutual assholery between the Jews and the Catholic Poles.....it is just another episode of assholery in a long litany of assholery! So because of historic tensions, he's free to make antisemitic remarks? Interesting to note that people committing Jewish persecution all through the history have tried to justify their violence with some silly & lame reasoning (people create reasons from their ass and deliberately attach a cause of which they have no proof; just make weird assumptions why someone says something).
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Post by goz on May 13, 2019 4:31:20 GMT
So because of historic tensions, he's free to make antisemitic remarks? Interesting to note that people committing Jewish persecution all through the history have tried to justify their violence with some silly & lame reasoning (people create reasons from their ass and deliberately attach a cause of which they have no proof; just make weird assumptions why someone says something). Luckily this was not the case here.
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Post by Aj_June on May 13, 2019 5:44:08 GMT
Interesting to note that people committing Jewish persecution all through the history have tried to justify their violence with some silly & lame reasoning (people create reasons from their ass and deliberately attach a cause of which they have no proof; just make weird assumptions why someone says something). Luckily this was not the case here. Yeah, You know that from your ass. Shameless idiots believe their case is different.
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Post by goz on May 13, 2019 5:52:03 GMT
Luckily this was not the case here. Yeah, shameless idiots believe their case is different. No, unlike you I have posted considerable evidence on this thread. You ignore it at your peril of looking foolish and vindictive, just because you were proven hasty and incorrect about the importance and complexity of this thread in Polish history..
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Post by Aj_June on May 13, 2019 5:54:21 GMT
Yeah, shameless idiots believe their case is different. No, unlike you I have posted considerable evidence on this thread. You ignore it at your peril of looking foolish and vindictive, just because you were proven hasty and incorrect about the importance and complexity of this thread in Polish history.. The one who made a complete ass of herself is you. Isapop even hinted so and said that he can't assume for others unlike your self. Just continue to embarrass yourself more.
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Post by goz on May 13, 2019 6:04:54 GMT
No, unlike you I have posted considerable evidence on this thread. You ignore it at your peril of looking foolish and vindictive, just because you were proven hasty and incorrect about the importance and complexity of this thread in Polish history.. The one who made a complete ass of herself is you. Isapop even hinted so and said that he can't assume for others unlike your self. Just continue to embarrass yourself more. Just because you jumped into a situation you knew almost nothing about, boots and all about yelling 'Anti-Semitism, doesn't excuse your ignorance, and subsequent stubbornness when corrected... The bishop was wrong...I explained why and how this came about. You? BTW Isopop has more brain than you and came around and was fair. You have hissy fits and hold grudges like a child,
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Post by Aj_June on May 13, 2019 6:08:12 GMT
The one who made a complete ass of herself is you. Isapop even hinted so and said that he can't assume for others unlike your self. Just continue to embarrass yourself more. Just because you jumped into a situation you knew almost nothing about, boots and all about yelling 'Anti-Semitism, doesn't excuse your ignorance, and subsequent stubbornness when corrected... The bishop was wrong...I explained why and how this came about. You? BTW Isopop has more brain than you and came around and was fair. You have hissy fits and hold grudges like a child, The only one having hissy fit is you. Right from the beginning of the thread you have been pretty stupid. The fair Isapop also pointed out how your claim of the article being pissing contest was totally incorrect.
You further demonstrated you don't know meaning of facts, apologists and other words. Poor you.
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Post by goz on May 13, 2019 6:14:50 GMT
Just because you jumped into a situation you knew almost nothing about, boots and all about yelling 'Anti-Semitism, doesn't excuse your ignorance, and subsequent stubbornness when corrected... The bishop was wrong...I explained why and how this came about. You? BTW Isopop has more brain than you and came around and was fair. You have hissy fits and hold grudges like a child, The only one having hissy fit is you. Right from the beginning of the thread you have been pretty stupid. The fair Isapop also pointed out how your claim of the article being pissing contest was totally incorrect.
You further demonstrated you don't know meaning of facts, apologists and other words. Poor you.
Rubbish! From the start I was bipartisan fair and had history and facts on my side. Have you even read the four articles I have posted that vindicate my claim abut the long history here and negates the nonsense that Divi Davi posted? He posted a pro-Jewish partisan article selected to add to his Zionist agenda. He has turned out to be a raving Zionist with an agenda...are you? You are now being petulant. You blow hot and cold with me all the time and I put up with it. You used to call me one of the most intelligent posters on here until you disagreed with me and/or I taught you something. Sometimes I think that you are drunk posting and then I think...no you are just stubborn arrogant and vindictive when corrected by anyone on anything.
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Post by Aj_June on May 13, 2019 6:18:34 GMT
The only one having hissy fit is you. Right from the beginning of the thread you have been pretty stupid. The fair Isapop also pointed out how your claim of the article being pissing contest was totally incorrect.
You further demonstrated you don't know meaning of facts, apologists and other words. Poor you.
Rubbish! From the start I was bipartisan fair and had history and facts on my side. Have you even read the four articles I have posted that vindicate my claim abut the long history here and negates the nonsense that Divi Davi posted? He posted a pro-Jewish partisan article selected to add to his Zionist agenda. He has turned out to be a raving Zionist with an agenda...are you? You are now being petulant. You blow hot and cold with me all the time and I put up with it. You used to call me one of the most intelligent posters on here until you disagreed with me and/or I taught you something. Sometimes I think that you are drunk posting and then I think...no you are just stubborn arrogant and vindictive when corrected by anyone on anything. Okay, so things are still happening inside your brain. Too bad the Polish Bishop actually told something ghastly about Jews which was untrue and reporting which gives you discomfort. The facts reported by websites are now pissing contest.
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Post by goz on May 13, 2019 6:24:32 GMT
Rubbish! From the start I was bipartisan fair and had history and facts on my side. Have you even read the four articles I have posted that vindicate my claim abut the long history here and negates the nonsense that Divi Davi posted? He posted a pro-Jewish partisan article selected to add to his Zionist agenda. He has turned out to be a raving Zionist with an agenda...are you? You are now being petulant. You blow hot and cold with me all the time and I put up with it. You used to call me one of the most intelligent posters on here until you disagreed with me and/or I taught you something. Sometimes I think that you are drunk posting and then I think...no you are just stubborn arrogant and vindictive when corrected by anyone on anything. Okay, so things are still happening inside your brain. Too bad the Polish Bishop actually told something ghastly about Jews which was untrue and reporting which gives you discomfort. The facts reported by websites are now pissing contest. It is really sad that the whole point of this thread and its ramifications went entirely over your head, and you didn't read the links. Educate yourself.
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Post by Aj_June on May 13, 2019 6:26:17 GMT
Okay, so things are still happening inside your brain. Too bad the Polish Bishop actually told something ghastly about Jews which was untrue and reporting which gives you discomfort. The facts reported by websites are now pissing contest. It is really sad that the whole point of this thread and its ramifications went entire over your head, and you didn't read the links. Educate yourself. What is sad is your assumptions and imaginations. Can't even say you to educate yourself because you are delusional.
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