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Post by sostie on Oct 7, 2019 13:30:23 GMT
Their ratings are likely to be more for the sexual content and language than the violence Its for the violence like I said Thanos getting his head cut off and Hawkeye stabbing that guy weren't as violent as people say. You think Think a pg13/Pg cut of a movie will show Kingpin killing somebody with a car or beating somebody to death with a hammer. Or Billy Russo Getting his face smashed with Glass? Cottonmouth beating to death a teen or Mariah committing genocide exactly the same in the show? Violence is a factor for an R rating but not the only factor - more than one f-bomb, sex, nudity and even smoking are in many cases a bigger factor Is Watchmen that much more violent than films like Taken, the Bourne series, the later Bonds? Remove the swearing, the sex and the smoking and it may well have been considered a PG-13. Sexual and sadistic violence (Netflix Marvel) also also ups a rating to and R. As does (I think) violence committed by and to children (Logan).
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Post by dazz on Oct 7, 2019 14:25:17 GMT
Or to keep their brand appropriate for all ages, because that's what the MCU, appropriate for all ages, also Van Helsing is fucking shitty, I tried watching that show it's just garbage uninspired run of the mill drek, so obviously you must like it.
Blade the series was intended to be a continuation of the movie series so it had to retain that level, but is either Blade the series or Van Helsing as enetertaining as say Buffy or Angel? no, was True Blood just as good later on when they still used lots of blood, dismemberments and cock rippings off as it was earlier on? no.
Jaws is a PG film over here, it scared me more and is far more mature than any of the Friday The 13th films and they are all 18's over here I believe, just because other shows are going to be rated R doesn't mean anything, TV you can push that shit more because anyone can still watch those shows regardless of age or ratings, in films an R rating effectively cuts out large chunks of the general audience, hence why no rated R movie has come within $200m of breaking $1B.
And you say toys like it doesn't matter, that is what matters, do you think SW became a billion dollar property through the movies? no it became that through merchandising, toys, lunch boxes, games, CD#s, coluring book's, the EU novels, T-Shirts and costumes, the films are a small portion of Lucasfilm and SW's success, Wonder Woman sold lik $1B in merchandise the year after the movie came out, the movie that didn't cross $850m btw, Batman 89 made WB twice or even 3 times maybe as much money in merchandise than it did at the box office, these are business's making money is the point, you know why Fox was willing to take more risks with their movie ratings? they didn't own the merchandising so all they had was the box office, so to them who cares if a rated R film cuts merch profitability in half so long as those box office dollars roll in.
You are actually the problem because you are the sort of simpleton who judges crap on stuff like the age certifications, bet you are the sort that thought wrestling was better when it was PG-13 and not PG right? even though Smackdown was always just PG and yet people didn't notice the difference in quality between the PG-13 Raw's and the PG Smackdown, you are a superficial lame brain who thinks liking something that is just for adults is mature, no like I said to you once before the American Pie films are not for kids, but they are the furthest thing from being mature, and if you aren't smart enough to get that then I pity your simple little head.
MCU being the MCU isn't a good enough reason. There are books for everybody and books for adults the movies should do that. If they don't r rated properties to mix with their kid movies kid movies they can do what DC is doing with the Joker movie and make it a seperate Canon which is smart cause its broken records. Van Helsing isn't a bad show thats the gore we should get for blade. I love Buffy and Angel but the violence there wasn't that intense in Season 4 of Buffy the character Adam kills a kid but its only mentioned not shown. In Season 2 spike kills a child vampire again not violent. You brought up Friday the 13th which are r rated movies? Jaws wouldn't be pg today. I don't know why you bring up Raw and Smackdown both have been called the PG era these days for awhile they banned certain chokeholds and face attacks. As for toys you don't have to water anything thats a choice. Was the boys marketed for kids to sell toys no? Was watchmen watered down to sell toy? Were Daredevil and Punisher shows watered down for toys? No Dear god you are dumb.
Ok as for why I brought up WWE, back in 1999-2004 WWE is rated PG-13 or whatever, but only for Raw & PPV's, Smackdown was always rated PG however, yet when WWE announced they were going PG people like you, ie dummies, whined that it would ruin the product and they claimed for years that's what happened, because they are too dumb to get that SD was always a PG product, because the rating only determines how far you can push the envelope, not the quality of the product you make, WWE's product either on Raw or SD wasn't determined by their ratings but by their actual product, such as SD was by far the better product in 2002-04 when they had the Smackdown 6 and Brock Lesnar kicking arse, whilst Raw the more "mature" brand had Triple H dressing like Kane to pretend to fuck a corpse.
So did any of those properties you mentioned, Watchmen, The Boys, Daredevil, Punisher how many hundreds of millions do they make in toy sales? How much merch does Deadpool make not aimed at over 21's? How huge a cosplay push did X-23 receive after being featured in one of the best CBM's of all time played amazingly by a you actress?
Van Helsing is dogshit, it's boring as fuck also, it had some promise but that got lost very quickly, and why would being more graphic have helped Buffy? what sort of mental deficient thinks oh yeah what that show needed was to show children actually being torn apart and brutalised, the show wasn't R rated, but it was and still is leaps and bounds ahead of the pile of crap that is Van Helsing.
But back to Blade, you nut case, I never said they had to make Blade PG-13, I said if they made it part of the MCU they would likely have to, but I also said they would be better off imo giving Blade to Fox and starting a new Marvel label over there for the films like Blade, Deadpool and the Netflix shows, my point was which you clearly aren't smart enough to grasp is Disney most likely will not want to contaminate their family friendly MCU which averages almost $1b per film, where the 18th least popular movie in their line up trumps anything outside of the top 5 all time rated R movies, because the brand awareness that is the MCU is part of the package, possibly the biggest part which make them so successful, they wont want to tarnish that by throwing out a blood and guts vampire slasher, but they could relaunch Marvel Knights and give them Blade as their flagship franchise to build around.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 22:36:21 GMT
You and Scorsese may be on to something. Remember how endgame looked like a video game during the last battle. Scorsese is correct to compare it to themes parks. something about marvel movies always gives a fake atmosphere vibe, like theme packs its more about the thrill than the brains. The thrill though is of an immature audience and stupid millennial critics who don't know good cinema. Its good Scorsese is fact checking them.
Why do people think that posting a YouTube video of someone who shares your opinion makes that opinion more valid? Gotta say though..a video with no likes and one dislike, was a fine choice. Further proof that thenolan is summers8. Starts using videos from obscure YouTube channels and tries to prove his point using an opinion he agrees with. Also posting clips of movies and thinking he proved a point somehow.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 22:38:08 GMT
Shocking MCU fans actually think Scorsese is jealous. Marvel can just easily prove him wrong by making a cinematic movie. He meant the genre in general. Again he only responded about the MCU because he was asked about the MCU and because MCU is what's making the genre popular with Endgame topping Avatar.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 22:38:58 GMT
Why do people think that posting a YouTube video of someone who shares your opinion makes that opinion more valid? Gotta say though..a video with no likes and one dislike, was a fine choice. is it fact to say this does look like a theme park action game than cinema?
Nope looks like a movie to me. A good movie recorded in a theater with a bad camera.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2019 6:08:22 GMT
WOAH, the man has an oPiniOn? The man is entitled to think what he thinks, but as such a legendary contributor to cinema as he, his opinion should certainly not be disregarded and should mean a lot, actually.
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Post by hobowar on Oct 9, 2019 9:24:31 GMT
WOAH, the man has an oPiniOn? The man is entitled to think what he thinks, but as such a legendary contributor to cinema as he, his opinion should certainly not be disregarded and should mean a lot, actually. Go fuck yourself, you pompous dipshit.
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Post by politicidal on Oct 9, 2019 13:02:36 GMT
WOAH, the man has an oPiniOn? The man is entitled to think what he thinks, but as such a legendary contributor to cinema as he, his opinion should certainly not be disregarded and should mean a lot, actually. Go fuck yourself, you pompous dipshit. Dial it down. Let’s not toss the regular users in with the trolls.
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Post by faustus5 on Oct 9, 2019 13:36:48 GMT
Is Watchmen that much more violent than films like Taken, the Bourne series, the later Bonds? Hell yeah, it was! It was incredibly gory. Go back and re-visit it. Those have nothing on Watchmen.
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Post by James on Oct 9, 2019 14:05:52 GMT
WOAH, the man has an oPiniOn? The man is entitled to think what he thinks, but as such a legendary contributor to cinema as he, his opinion should certainly not be disregarded and should mean a lot, actually. I respect his opinion, I just don’t necessarily agree with him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2019 16:08:36 GMT
WOAH, the man has an oPiniOn? The man is entitled to think what he thinks, but as such a legendary contributor to cinema as he, his opinion should certainly not be disregarded and should mean a lot, actually. Go fuck yourself, you pompous dipshit. What’s your problem, man? Bad day at the office?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2019 16:11:15 GMT
Go fuck yourself, you pompous dipshit. Dial it down. Let’s not toss the regular users in with the trolls. Not so much a regular anymore, for this exact reason.
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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 9, 2019 17:32:49 GMT
Nah, I think Deadpool would still have been good if it was originally made PG13. His character comes through in the violence though. Like cutting his hand off to showing a middle finger. Killing a bunch of people and using their bodies to see Francis with a decapitated head for the "i". Shooting three guys through the head with one bullet. Stabbing a guy and then making the joke about how the women just thought they were going to see a valentines movies. But does it have to? You can show his character in many different ways without it being rated R.
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Post by thenolan on Oct 9, 2019 18:46:06 GMT
Would some people dare argue what blade's rating should be if it was not owned by Disney?
MCU just sucks.
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Post by politicidal on Oct 9, 2019 18:47:43 GMT
Would some people dare argue what blade's rating should be if it was not owned by Disney? MCU just sucks. Sit in the corner summers8 the adults are talking.
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Post by dazz on Oct 9, 2019 19:25:00 GMT
Would some people dare argue what blade's rating should be if it was not owned by Disney? MCU just sucks. Shut it you slag.
Only thing sucking around here is you, on yah knee's to any fleeting comment anyone makes that you think you can try and turn into an attack on the mcu, because you are a sad pathetic numpty, but if your going to be spending so much time down there then you'd best buy yourself some kneepads.
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Post by sostie on Oct 9, 2019 19:28:04 GMT
Is Watchmen that much more violent than films like Taken, the Bourne series, the later Bonds? Hell yeah, it was! It was incredibly gory. Go back and re-visit it. Those have nothing on Watchmen. But the on screen violence isn't that much more extreme. There is gore, yes (I have seen the film several times, most recently a few months ago) and there is nothing in Watchmen more distressing, sadistic and painful to watch than the torture scene in Casino Royale for instance.
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Post by sostie on Oct 9, 2019 19:30:29 GMT
Would some people dare argue what blade's rating should be if it was not owned by Disney? MCU just sucks. I would reply, but I have no idea what this post is trying to say "would some people argue what the rating of an unmade film should be if it was not made by the people that intend to make it" ??
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Post by politicidal on Oct 9, 2019 19:42:46 GMT
Would some people dare argue what blade's rating should be if it was not owned by Disney? MCU just sucks. I would reply, but I have no idea what this post is trying to say "would some people argue what the rating of an unmade film should be if it was not made by the people that intend to make it" ?? summers8 gets lost in his own nonsense frequently. But likely a result of stress. Quite common among legal professionals I hear.
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Post by faustus5 on Oct 9, 2019 19:46:20 GMT
Hell yeah, it was! It was incredibly gory. Go back and re-visit it. Those have nothing on Watchmen. But the on screen violence isn't that much more extreme. There is gore, yes (I have seen the film several times, most recently a few months ago) and there is nothing in Watchmen more distressing, sadistic and painful to watch than the torture scene in Casino Royale for instance. Gore is extreme. No one is going to get sick to their stomach watching someone get smacked in the balls mostly offscreen. In Watchmen you see bones sticking of of flesh, you see brains blown out, and you see muscle tissue. No Bond movie has ever been that extreme.
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