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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 4, 2019 2:36:29 GMT
So then your answer is that you're going to continue to tolerate trolls who have no intention of holding conversations in good faith. It's your board I guess. Let it be as shitty as you want I suppose. Only to an extent that it doesn't go too far. Some of these "troll" threads do create a bit of a back forth and as long as its on topic I'll leave people to it. If it's something like Summers last thread though then I'll just lock it, no bother. I never aimed to make the place perfect, just better. This board used to be full of off topic nonsense. People would post threads about DC on the Marvel board on spite. Constant Marvel vs DC arguments everywhere you turned. People used to argue but not about the MCU but just personally to the point there was that whole Raptor/Poelzig Threatening/Racist debacle. Threads made about other users to make fun of them. Most of the threads on the board would be negative. We don't really have that now. At worst, there's a few threads that contain some ribbing and some have to be locked. It's all pretty trivial at this point. I have to agree with Scabab here, I dont think he has the power to ban people. I definitely can't ban or unban people nor can I can check IP addresses. I can edit, delete, move and sticky posts and that's it. I can ask the Admin to ban someone though. Archs stance on his ban is confusing to say the least. Apparently not only did he keep asking to be banned rather than just self delete which would be much quicker for everyone but I complied with his request and then felt compelled to lie about it afterwards. I don't even know he came back, I was led to believe the ban was permanent at the time. In any case, I had been deleting the last messages on this back and forth so as to not overtake the topic but it seems people have had enough to say about Josh Trank, Charzhino is banned and there'd be too many posts to delete now so let's this wrap so I can just lock the whole thread tomorrow. keep up the good work man. We left because it was so awesome here we couldn’t take it
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 2:39:20 GMT
So then your answer is that you're going to continue to tolerate trolls who have no intention of holding conversations in good faith. It's your board I guess. Let it be as shitty as you want I suppose. Only to an extent that it doesn't go too far. Some of these "troll" threads do create a bit of a back forth and as long as its on topic I'll leave people to it. If it's something like Summers last thread though then I'll just lock it, no bother. I never aimed to make the place perfect, just better. This board used to be full of off topic nonsense. People would post threads about DC on the Marvel board on spite. Constant Marvel vs DC arguments everywhere you turned. People used to argue but not about the MCU but just personally to the point there was that whole Raptor/Poelzig Threatening/Racist debacle. Threads made about other users to make fun of them. Most of the threads on the board would be negative. We don't really have that now. At worst, there's a few threads that contain some ribbing and some have to be locked. It's all pretty trivial at this point. I have to agree with Scabab here, I dont think he has the power to ban people. I definitely can't ban or unban people nor can I can check IP addresses. I can edit, delete, move and sticky posts and that's it. I can ask the Admin to ban someone though. Archs stance on his ban is confusing to say the least. Apparently not only did he keep asking to be banned rather than just self delete which would be much quicker for everyone but I complied with his request and then felt compelled to lie about it afterwards. I don't even know he came back, I was led to believe the ban was permanent at the time. In any case, I had been deleting the last messages on this back and forth so as to not overtake the topic but it seems people have had enough to say about Josh Trank, Charzhino is banned and there'd be too many posts to delete now so let's this wrap so I can just lock the whole thread tomorrow. It confuses me too which is why im asking Arch. He's usually pretty rational outside the mcu
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 4, 2019 2:41:55 GMT
Fair questions
I simply didn't want to self delete. I wanted to make a point of making him delete me. BTW notice that he's lied about why I was banned for 2 years now.
By troll, I mean the posters we all know here who actively try to be disruptive in a disingenuous way. I don't think that's a matter of perspective. I don't want to name them, but I'm pretty sure you have a few names running through your head already. Scab just openly admitted to editing posts. You shouldn't have to do that. Have some control. Show some authority.
My only take is that when you go to Knowhere, you don't see these kind of thing. When I got invited there, I realized the difference and it's just world's apart. I wish I could help this site get better honestly, but it's never going to when you have people like him who would rather make excuses than do anything about it. If you like the way it is though, then I guess Ive got no point.
Either way, I wanted to express that, and I won't really be hanging around this site.
Fair enough but you can see that you pretty much forced his hand while trying to make a point. How would you like it if someone kept pestering you? Look at it from Scabab's pov, if I was a mod i'd get tired of constantly trying to moderate their behaviour, think edge of tomorrow but for really trivial reasons. Tired of seeking John's permission. Also to be fair, these trolls provide a lot of discussion topics so theres a reason for them to stick around. Additionally, Scabab cant always be around either and he doesnt get paid for this. At the end of the day, it's just a board, we're not making vaccines or getting rid of climate change I definitely forced his hand. I meant to And I get that it’s not easy all the time, but we don’t have this problem in Knowhere so it’s not an impossible ask. a number us tried to express that this site had grown intolerable and his response was to blame us. Even now, he considers us the problem, instead of the obvious trolls. He doesn’t listen to or help those he’s supposed to be a mod for.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 2:53:27 GMT
Fair enough but you can see that you pretty much forced his hand while trying to make a point. How would you like it if someone kept pestering you? Look at it from Scabab's pov, if I was a mod i'd get tired of constantly trying to moderate their behaviour, think edge of tomorrow but for really trivial reasons. Tired of seeking John's permission. Also to be fair, these trolls provide a lot of discussion topics so theres a reason for them to stick around. Additionally, Scabab cant always be around either and he doesnt get paid for this. At the end of the day, it's just a board, we're not making vaccines or getting rid of climate change I definitely forced his hand. I meant to And I get that it’s not easy all the time, but we don’t have this problem in Knowhere so it’s not an impossible ask. a number us tried to express that this site had grown intolerable and his response was to blame us. Even now, he considers us the problem, instead of the obvious trolls. He doesn’t listen to or help those he’s supposed to be a mod for. Knowhere doesnt have this problem because theres no dcfan, thenolan/summers8, charzhino etc. I wouldnt mind dcfan and summers8 being there but charzhino no, his early self sure. I mean if they want to be punching bags lol sure, they would lose most debates, probs get cranky and lash out. We could use more devil's advocate povs but thats just me
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