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Post by ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda on Mar 18, 2023 6:22:41 GMT
Where did He go?
What did He do?
What did He learn?
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Post by drystyx on Mar 18, 2023 6:34:06 GMT
Ask him. He's right over there.
No, not over there. I said "over there, that way".
Now he moved on you. He's over there now.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Mar 18, 2023 11:21:41 GMT
If Jesus actually was the son of God, i think its likely that he traveled to other part of Asia, Africa and Europe. I know people will disagree with me, but i don`t think from the period he was 12 and 30, that he only stayed in Galilee, i think he traveled to other places. He probably spendt his time learning from other spiritual masters and learning about the culture and people of other places. He probably also worked as a carpenter with his stepfather Joseph wen he was home in Galilee. He probably also helped his mother Mary with things, and played with his younger brother and sister, yeah i don`t think Mary was a virgin her entire life
But this is just a hypothesis/theory i have, i am in now way claiming that its correct. He could just as well spendt his whole life in and around Galilee (apart from that time they where in Egypt), i just don`t think he did.
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Post by paulslaugh on Mar 18, 2023 13:06:49 GMT
It’s possible he worked in Galilee building the palaces for Herod Antipas and homes for of the Greco-Romans planters.
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Post by rizdek on Mar 18, 2023 17:07:23 GMT
Where did He go? What did He do? What did He learn? It is likely the person or persons on whose life the Jesus of the NT was based lived ~100 years before the gospels have him living. The key is how the secular accounts have the Jews personally crucifying Jesus. But the Jews had no authority to crucify anyone when Jesus was supposedly crucified. However, the Jews DID have the authority to conduct executions by crucifixion from 102 BC to ~76 BC. So THAT is probably where the secularists got the idea that it was the Jews what killed Jesus...because the Jews DID crucify hundreds of apostates during their reign. So a story about them killing someone name Jesus stuck around and as the story was passed down by word of mouth, those who wanted to make it look like the crucified person WAS the prophesied messiah embellished the stories by folding in events to match the prophecies. So by the time anyone decided to put pen to paper, there were fully fledged accounts that had Jesus fulfilling all these prophecies.
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Post by rizdek on Mar 18, 2023 17:11:12 GMT
Ask him. He's right over there. No, not over there. I said "over there, that way". Now he moved on you. He's over there now. Burt: Ernie, what's that a picture of? (Ernie is holding a white sheet of paper) Ernie: It's a picture of a cow eating grass. Burt: Where's the grass? Ernie: The cow ate it. Burt: Where's the cow? Ernie: All the grass is gone, why should she hang around?
Jesus is gone...he ate all the crackers and drank all the wine, why should he hang around?
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Post by clusium on Mar 18, 2023 18:19:01 GMT
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Post by gadreel on Mar 18, 2023 22:54:53 GMT
Where did He go? What did He do? What did He learn? Mystic Christianity says that after the events at the temple when he was lost by Mary and Joseph, that he was taken by the Magi and taught, and then traveled around the middle east, asia and india.
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Post by paulslaugh on Mar 19, 2023 1:55:20 GMT
Where did He go? What did He do? What did He learn? Mystic Christianity says that after the events at the temple when he was lost by Mary and Joseph, that he was taken by the Magi and taught, and then traveled around the middle east, asia and india. The infancy narratives are made up.
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Post by ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda on Mar 19, 2023 2:24:21 GMT
Who determines what's apocryphal, mystical, real, or not real?
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Post by paulslaugh on Mar 19, 2023 2:25:38 GMT
Who determines what's apocryphal, mystical, real, or not real? A committee of likeminded men.
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Post by gadreel on Mar 19, 2023 20:08:41 GMT
Mystic Christianity says that after the events at the temple when he was lost by Mary and Joseph, that he was taken by the Magi and taught, and then traveled around the middle east, asia and india. The infancy narratives are made up. They do seem to have some issues, on the other hand, I find it hard to believe that Jesus commanded an audience at the temple at the age of 12, and then just made wooden boxes until he was 30.
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Post by clusium on Mar 19, 2023 20:50:28 GMT
The infancy narratives are made up. They do seem to have some issues, on the other hand, I find it hard to believe that Jesus commanded an audience at the temple at the age of 12, and then just made wooden boxes until he was 30. Flavius Josephus also said that the temple priests would listen to him too. Flavius Josephus
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Post by llanwydd on Mar 19, 2023 21:22:40 GMT
There is, in fact, a History Channel documentary, made in 2010 called Jesus: The Lost 40 Days that presents speculation about what Jesus might have done during the time between the ressurrection and the ascension. Perhaps this is not apropos of the lost years but I mention it because it is a similar topic and because I was in some of the dramatic reenactments in this documentary. I have made several similar appearances in TV documentaries and this is one of my favorites. It is sometimes shown on the History Channel around Easter. I would post a link but I have been having trouble doing that lately. The video is available on Youtube. I played an unnamed apostle in a few scenes. The actor who played Jesus was a young Turkish guy with a hook nose and a very middle-eastern look named Kadir. No Max Von Sydow or Jeffrey Hunter to be sure. We filmed this in the Castkill mountains of upstate New York. Somebody said it was the tallest mountain in the Catskills and it was damn cold up there. Later on the bus Kadir was pouring tea for everybody and we were all saying "Thank you, Jesus!" The woman who played Mary Magdelene got drunk during a lunch break and made quite a nuisance of herself and a lot trouble for the director. Overall it was great fun and good pay. I hope they show it again this Easter.
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Post by gadreel on Mar 19, 2023 21:48:35 GMT
They do seem to have some issues, on the other hand, I find it hard to believe that Jesus commanded an audience at the temple at the age of 12, and then just made wooden boxes until he was 30. Flavius Josephus also said that the temple priests would listen to him too. Flavius JosephusUnder what is his legacy: Flavius Josephus’s works contain faulty chronology and exaggerated facts.
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Post by drystyx on Mar 20, 2023 3:26:17 GMT
Mystic Christianity says that after the events at the temple when he was lost by Mary and Joseph, that he was taken by the Magi and taught, and then traveled around the middle east, asia and india. The infancy narratives are made up. That's almost certainly true. They even read as some "adult morality" tales. Some are quite ridiculous. I guess there's a 2% chance they're true, or odds of 49-1 if one is giving odds. They really serve to conformity, such as the incident where he causes another child's death, which was actually an obvious intention to tell the story that Jesus wasn't born as a perfect son of God, but had to inherit that title. It was told purely for propaganda purposes.
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Post by paulslaugh on Mar 20, 2023 3:33:59 GMT
The infancy narratives are made up. That's almost certainly true. They even read as some "adult morality" tales. Some are quite ridiculous. I guess there's a 2% chance they're true, or odds of 49-1 if one is giving odds. They really serve to conformity, such as the incident where he causes another child's death, which was actually an obvious intention to tell the story that Jesus wasn't born as a perfect son of God, but had to inherit that title. It was told purely for propaganda purposes. "Jesus" evolved from a human being who had God's favor to God himself within about three generations. The birth and resurrection narratives helped establish his divine origins and rightful kingship as a descendant of David.
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Post by Sarge on Mar 20, 2023 6:33:28 GMT
Probably loafing around the house, a disappointment to his parents.
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Post by gadreel on Mar 20, 2023 18:48:16 GMT
Mystic Christianity says that after the events at the temple when he was lost by Mary and Joseph, that he was taken by the Magi and taught, and then traveled around the middle east, asia and india. The infancy narratives are made up. It just occured to me this morning, in 'infancy gospels' were not discovered until 1947, the idea that Jesus lived in the middle east and India and Asia was something I have read published prior to this.
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Post by clusium on Mar 20, 2023 18:59:18 GMT
Probably loafing around the house, a disappointment to his parents. Do not equate Our Lord Jesus - or any other Jewish person growing up in First Century Palestine - with the teenagers & young adults of today (particularly those in North America). As with all all Jewish young men in first Century Palestine, Our Lord Jesus Followed in His adoptive father's trade (carpentry).
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