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Post by clusium on Mar 23, 2023 19:21:33 GMT
I've been posting on the RFS message forum for several years now. Yes, atheists pretty much have that attitude here. Eg: Remember Goz? Despite claiming to be an agnostic atheist, the anti-theist views she expressed on on these forums indicate that she was a very zealous atheist, & had absolutely no doubt in her disbelief in God, whatsoever. Eg: I used to share videos or links about people entering into the priesthood and/or nunnery, etc., & she used to expressed complete dismay at the decision of these young people to choose to dedicate their lives to God and His Church. I have said nothing to have any effect on people here. Nobody is being denied their right to express their faith in their own religions here. Again you are missing the point, and I think Paul is wrong on this as well. If you (or anyone) say that <insert belief here> is the correct one to the exclusion of all others, then you are really saying, if you believe in another belief then you are wrong, which is a way of saying you should think like I do. Or we (as in I who believe in the fullness of the truth of my own particular faith, & another person who believes in the fullness of truth of their own particular faith) can agree to disagree.
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Post by gadreel on Mar 23, 2023 20:09:14 GMT
Again you are missing the point, and I think Paul is wrong on this as well. If you (or anyone) say that <insert belief here> is the correct one to the exclusion of all others, then you are really saying, if you believe in another belief then you are wrong, which is a way of saying you should think like I do. Or we (as in I who believe in the fullness of the truth of my own particular faith, & another person who believes in the fullness of truth of their own particular faith) can agree to disagree. Of course we can agree to disagree, I am pretty sad though that I was pretty clear about one of the basic tenets of my faith and you have clearly ignored it. Still no harm done, go well.
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Post by clusium on Mar 23, 2023 21:02:47 GMT
Or we (as in I who believe in the fullness of the truth of my own particular faith, & another person who believes in the fullness of truth of their own particular faith) can agree to disagree. Of course we can agree to disagree, I am pretty sad though that I was pretty clear about one of the basic tenets of my faith and you have clearly ignored it. Still no harm done, go well. Thank you.
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Post by paulslaugh on Mar 23, 2023 22:37:04 GMT
But this has said here on this board. I can't remember if you did though. However, atheism is not a denial of God, it is simply a lack of belief. Hmmm, yes atheism is a lack of belief in God, some atheists deny God though, it's common enough that often atheism is described as soft or hard. Some are not most. But to say just the God of the Bible does not exist, isn’t necessarily atheism. If you knew proof positive the God of the Holy Trinity was not real, but there’s still a possibility for another one like Rama or a supernatural force like Tao to be real, would you convert or go atheist?
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Post by gadreel on Mar 23, 2023 23:24:23 GMT
Hmmm, yes atheism is a lack of belief in God, some atheists deny God though, it's common enough that often atheism is described as soft or hard. Some are not most. But to say just the God of the Bible does not exist, isn’t necessarily atheism. If you knew proof positive the God of the Holy Trinity was not real, but there’s still a possibility for another one like Rama or a supernatural force like Tao to be real, would you convert or go atheist? Well I am hermetic so any God™ will do
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Post by paulslaugh on Mar 23, 2023 23:38:44 GMT
Some are not most. But to say just the God of the Bible does not exist, isn’t necessarily atheism. If you knew proof positive the God of the Holy Trinity was not real, but there’s still a possibility for another one like Rama or a supernatural force like Tao to be real, would you convert or go atheist? Well I am hermetic so any God™ will do You, like Kabbalahists, are going for the upper part of It that didn’t make an appearance in the OT, but peaks through in the NT, the agnóstos.
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Post by ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda on Mar 24, 2023 0:54:00 GMT
One person's truth is another person's different truth, and vice versa.
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Post by gadreel on Mar 24, 2023 1:18:40 GMT
Well I am hermetic so any God™ will do You, like Kabbalahists, are going for the upper part of It that didn’t make an appearance in the OT, but peaks through in the NT, the agnóstos. hmm, are you saying the God™ of kaballah is NT not OT, the sepher yetzirah is very clearly referencing genesis (I hope, to be fair I do not have it in front of me nad have not read it for a few years, however that is my recollection)
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