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Post by damngumby on Jul 3, 2017 3:39:56 GMT
Riduculously skimpy costume, totally unsuitable for combat, but perfect for a strip club - Check
Extra large boob armor - Check (Gal Gadot could have hidden a couple sandwiches in that thing)
Lengthy scene of her trying on dozens of outfits in a fashion boutique ... because even Amazon warrior women just love to shop - Check
A remarkably sexist movie. Gal Gadot was obviously chosen to be Wonder Woman for no other reason than to give the super hero fan-nerds a little chubby every time they got a chance to look up her skirt, which was frequent. She's a looker, no doubt, but she simply isn't that good of an actor. Wonder Woman, the character, was a big ol' nothing burger. Almost as boring as the criminally predictable villains of this movie.
I suspect the good RT score is largely due to pity ... after the DC debacle of last summer. WW is much better than BvS, but that's not saying much. I'd rank it among the lower end Marvel movies. If this is the best DC can do, Marvel has absolutely nothing to worry about, particularly if Justice League is as bad as that trailer I saw before WW.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 3, 2017 3:43:14 GMT
Cool.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jul 3, 2017 4:02:05 GMT
Wait, wouldn't it be even more of an insult if the actress had bigger boobs?
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jul 3, 2017 4:16:44 GMT
Whah whah whah
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 3, 2017 4:52:12 GMT
Wait, wouldn't it be even more of an insult if the actress had bigger boobs? This thread is a typical example of why everyone hates MCU fans so much. Because MCU fans are so biased against DCEU that they'll make up all kinds of crap to try to discredit and tear down the DCEU.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 3, 2017 4:52:35 GMT
This thread is a typical example of why everyone hates MCU fans so much. Because MCU fans are so biased against DCEU that they'll make up all kinds of crap to try to discredit and tear down the DCEU.
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Post by damngumby on Jul 3, 2017 11:28:25 GMT
Wait, wouldn't it be even more of an insult if the actress had bigger boobs? I'm a sure it's possible for the movie to have been even more insulting to women. Faking in the big boobs was a pretty good effort. They certainly couldn't have shortened the skirt any more. Half of it already was above the crotch line. For the most part, the current crop of super hero movies have done a good job updating hero costumes to modern sensibilities by introducing a degree of practicability to them. This Wonder Woman sex kitten outfit has set all that progress back decades. Wonder Woman prancing across no-mans land in that get up has to be the single most unintentionally laugh out loud moment in super hero film history.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 15:01:32 GMT
This thread is a typical example of why everyone hates MCU fans so much. Because MCU fans are so biased against DCEU that they'll make up all kinds of crap to try to discredit and tear down the DCEU. Let's not forget they are defending a company that took 20 movies to give their biggest selling female superhero, Carol Danvers (Ms Marvel/Captain Marvel) her own movie which could get pushed back to 22 or 25 in favour of more obscure male superheroes to add to the sausage fest and a lot of them don't want Captain Marvel to have her own movie now or any female superheroes for that matter 'cause they think female characters should only be secondary characters to males and should only be seen and not heard. I am pretty sure most of them are ‘angry male virgins’ which explains why they are so threatened over female lead comic book movies and feel they need to tear them down 'cause they blame strong female characters in movies and TV shows lack of a dating life and for destroying the ‘nuclear family’ and perfect 50s lifestyle. Have you seen some of their blogs about how ‘Buffy’ and ‘Sex In the City’ ruined their lives? It is really sad and pathetic. They will do the same thing to Captain Marvel and Silver and Black regardless of them being Marvel movies
That being said I love how the OP says this movie is an insult to us but then turns around and slut shames Wonder Woman for her choice of attire and being sexually confidant with her body. Her costume was hardly skimpy or revealing and it is THAT sexist outdated type of attitude among people (men in particular) that is setting us back decades and belongs in the past.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 3, 2017 15:27:54 GMT
This thread is a typical example of why everyone hates MCU fans so much. Because MCU fans are so biased against DCEU that they'll make up all kinds of crap to try to discredit and tear down the DCEU. Let's not forget they are defending a company that took 20 movies to give their biggest selling female superhero, Carol Danvers (Ms Marvel/Captain Marvel) her own movie which could get pushed back to 22 or 25 in favour of more obscure male superheroes to add to the sausage fest and a lot of them don't want Captain Marvel to have her own movie now or any female superheroes for that matter 'cause they think female characters should only be secondary characters to males and should only be seen and not heard. I am pretty sure most of them are ‘angry male virgins’ which explains why they are so threatened over female lead comic book movies and feel they need to tear them down 'cause they blame strong female characters in movies and TV shows lack of a dating life and for destroying the ‘nuclear family’ and perfect 50s lifestyle. Have you seen some of their blogs about how ‘Buffy’ and ‘Sex In the City’ ruined their lives? It is really sad and pathetic. They will do the same thing to Captain Marvel and Silver and Black regardless of them being Marvel movies
That being said I love how the OP says this movie is an insult to us but then turns around and slut shames Wonder Woman for her choice of attire and being sexually confidant with her body. Her costume was hardly skimpy or revealing and it is THAT sexist outdated type of attitude among people (men in particular) that is setting us back decades and belongs in the past.Danvers is not as big a character as Wonder Woman for one. Two: That guy is an idiot and doesn't speak for people that like the Marvel movies.
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Post by Larcen26 on Jul 3, 2017 16:12:07 GMT
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Post by damngumby on Jul 3, 2017 19:10:58 GMT
Don't fret, sweetheart. The "slut shaming" was done by the three women I accompanied to the movie. They all agreed the WW costume was ridiculous. Personally, I'm a big fan of bikini armor on sex-kitten warrior women. The more opportunities for a wardrobe malfunction the better. It's one of the few things that can salvage a paint by numbers snooze-fest of a movie.
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Post by THawk on Jul 3, 2017 23:25:14 GMT
Overall I thought it was a very good movie, but yes, one needs to overlook the ridiculous costumes. I suppose the "excuse" for Diana's outfit is that she can stop bullets, so she can wear as little as she wants - though the movie did not make clear what happens if a bullet strikes her skin and not her armor. There's a reason why Batman wears armor virtually all over his body - because he can still die by gunfire.
And no, the excuse of "oh she needs room to move" really doesn't work. If she's strong enough to smash through stone with her bare hands, she is strong enough to move effectively with proper armor on.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 4, 2017 13:29:11 GMT
I didn't think her armor was that skimpy, than again I'm not insane like you ...So...
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Post by nemesis617 on Jul 4, 2017 23:29:07 GMT
Everyone is make a big deal of WW's "skimpy outfit" as you will have it. Doesn't the costume relate to Greek mythology?
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 5, 2017 1:27:46 GMT
Everyone is make a big deal of WW's "skimpy outfit" as you will have it. Doesn't the costume relate to Greek mythology? I wouldn't say "everyone". I've only ever really seen a small minority who took issue with it on the grounds of being too skimpy. There were people who complained about in BvS for how brown it looked, but that was more a result of the color grading for that film, than the costume itself.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 6:28:39 GMT
Don't fret, sweetheart. The "slut shaming" was done by the three women I accompanied to the movie. They all agreed the WW costume was ridiculous. Personally, I'm a big fan of bikini armor on sex-kitten warrior women. The more opportunities for a wardrobe malfunction the better. It's one of the few things that can salvage a paint by numbers snooze-fest of a movie. Oh, let me guess...Mummy bloggers or sex negative prudes who are insecure over their bodies so they shame those of us who aren’t for wanting to dress sexy when we go out and say things like we “deserve to be raped by men for dressing a certain way” ‘cause they are jealous of us. I have met people like that and I don’t count them as feminists and I actually find them and their archaic views to be repulsive and far more damaging to us than men. It is 2017 – the sexual repression is over and in case your friends haven’t heard Cosplay is very popular at the moment ‘cause it is sexy and empowering and if I was a superhero with superpowers I would wear a sexy costume to fight crime too but then again I am not ashamed of my body and am always kicking butt and looking good.
If it was the ‘Witchblade’ costume in the upcoming ‘Witchblade’ movie they were complaining about I would understand ‘cause that is a very revealing costume but when you’re talking about a costume that was controversial in the 1940s and is less revealing than the one Lynda Carter wore in the 1970s ‘Wonder Woman’ TV show and not to mention LESS revealing than what most female athletes wear in boxing, UFC and wrestling your friends really need to grow up if that offends them and they better not go to the shops, clubs, parties, beaches or literally anywhere for that matter ‘cause they’re going to be even more offended by what they see there. My Aunt loves the new costume and she was a big fan of the ‘Wonder Woman’ TV show. Perhaps your friends would feel more at home in one of those closed off Amish communities or they could wear burqas.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 6:50:54 GMT
Let's not forget they are defending a company that took 20 movies to give their biggest selling female superhero, Carol Danvers (Ms Marvel/Captain Marvel) her own movie which could get pushed back to 22 or 25 in favour of more obscure male superheroes to add to the sausage fest and a lot of them don't want Captain Marvel to have her own movie now or any female superheroes for that matter 'cause they think female characters should only be secondary characters to males and should only be seen and not heard. I am pretty sure most of them are ‘angry male virgins’ which explains why they are so threatened over female lead comic book movies and feel they need to tear them down 'cause they blame strong female characters in movies and TV shows lack of a dating life and for destroying the ‘nuclear family’ and perfect 50s lifestyle. Have you seen some of their blogs about how ‘Buffy’ and ‘Sex In the City’ ruined their lives? It is really sad and pathetic. They will do the same thing to Captain Marvel and Silver and Black regardless of them being Marvel movies
That being said I love how the OP says this movie is an insult to us but then turns around and slut shames Wonder Woman for her choice of attire and being sexually confidant with her body. Her costume was hardly skimpy or revealing and it is THAT sexist outdated type of attitude among people (men in particular) that is setting us back decades and belongs in the past. Danvers is not as big a character as Wonder Woman for one. Two: That guy is an idiot and doesn't speak for people that like the Marvel movies. Yes. You are right. He doesn't speak for everybody that likes Marvel movies but there are sadly a number of male comic book fans that fit the above description who don't want any female lead comic book series being made into movies 'cause they claim men hating feminists are trying to take over 'their' genre despite there being hundreds of female lead comic book series and they are quite bitter over Wonder Woman being successful and are saying the box office figures are made up. These people are on both ends of the extreme and a lot of extreme fans hate female fans.
I agree with you that Carol Danvers isn't as big of a character as Wonder Woman or Batgirl or Supergirl but she has higher all time sales as Ms Marvel and Captain Marvel than some of the other superheroes Marvel has made movies of like Thor, Ant Man and Guardians of the Galaxy and of as others have pointed out and as Marvel's biggest selling female superhero should have been in the MCU as Ms Marvel before Black Widow.
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Post by THawk on Jul 5, 2017 12:32:56 GMT
Don't fret, sweetheart. The "slut shaming" was done by the three women I accompanied to the movie. They all agreed the WW costume was ridiculous. Personally, I'm a big fan of bikini armor on sex-kitten warrior women. The more opportunities for a wardrobe malfunction the better. It's one of the few things that can salvage a paint by numbers snooze-fest of a movie. Oh, let me guess...Mummy bloggers or sex negative prudes who are insecure over their bodies so they shame those of us who aren’t for wanting to dress sexy when we go out and say things like we “deserve to be raped by men for dressing a certain way” ‘cause they are jealous of us. I have met people like that and I don’t count them as feminists and I actually find them and their archaic views to be repulsive and far more damaging to us than men. It is 2017 – the sexual repression is over and in case your friends haven’t heard Cosplay is very popular at the moment ‘cause it is sexy and empowering and if I was a superhero with superpowers I would wear a sexy costume to fight crime too but then again I am not ashamed of my body and am always kicking butt and looking good.
If it was the ‘Witchblade’ costume in the upcoming ‘Witchblade’ movie they were complaining about I would understand ‘cause that is a very revealing costume but when you’re talking about a costume that was controversial in the 1940s and is less revealing than the one Lynda Carter wore in the 1970s ‘Wonder Woman’ TV show and not to mention LESS revealing than what most female athletes wear in boxing, UFC and wrestling your friends really need to grow up if that offends them and they better not go to the shops, clubs, parties, beaches or literally anywhere for that matter ‘cause they’re going to be even more offended by what they see there. My Aunt loves the new costume and she was a big fan of the ‘Wonder Woman’ TV show. Perhaps your friends would feel more at home in one of those closed off Amish communities or they could wear burqas. The bubbles libtards live in are really, really out in cuckoo land. Here's your "prude, Amish" folks that had a problem with it: The U.N. dropped Wonder Woman specifically for her (lack of) clothing: edition.cnn.com/2016/12/13/health/wonder-woman-un-ambassador-trnd/index.html
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jul 5, 2017 12:56:48 GMT
speaking of delusional bubbles: "Although the original creators may have intended Wonder Woman to represent a strong and independent warrior woman with a feminist message, the reality is that the character's current iteration is that of a large breasted, white woman of impossible proportions, scantily clad in a shimmery, thigh-baring body suit with an American flag motif and knee high boots --the epitome of a pin-up girl."
Sounds more like a right-wing hick's idea of a pin-up, like the old Linda Carter iteration. But not so much like the "current iteration" of skinny, flat-ish, Israeli-girl Gal Godot emboding WW in a costume bearing only the remotest resemblance to the US flag (what's the American flag I wonder?).
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Post by damngumby on Jul 5, 2017 13:30:57 GMT
The problem with guessing is you can end up wasting a lot of time and effort going after the wrong target ... like you just did.
No, these were just average/normal women ... who can recognize a costume that is better suited for lap dancing than combat in the muddy trenches of WWI.
You probably don't want to go there. It's like evoking the silly Adam West batman costume when discussing the bat suit.
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