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Post by charzhino on Oct 21, 2017 8:46:13 GMT
Magneto steps aside in Apocalypse and lets Nur take control because he knows hes more powerful than himself.
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Post by summers8 on Oct 21, 2017 9:11:41 GMT
Singer ripped off the comics. He went to Cameron for time travel because of the similarities of the comics, he was not trying to rip it off. Do you know how many people in Hollywood seek advice from others who have done something similar to what they are about to do? once again, you try to twist this whole thing to support your bs. I think I already answered the question why it made more sense, in the movie they had already killed off Kelly. Secondly in the movie, which was a direct sequel to first class not a direct sequel to the comics, trask did kill her friends so it was justified in the content of the movie. I do remember correctly that in the movie, they captured her and learnt of her powers of adapting. you are seriously asking why it made more sense to kill a person that created machines to exterminate your kind and killed your friends?? could you be any more ridiculous? The entire movie was not a tribute to terminator, it was a tribute to the comics because that was what the comics was about. Stopping an assassination Sending an X-Men back in time Stopping a dystopia world
Time travel by consciousness of mind.
This was the comics, before the terminator. I do remember they used bishop because in TAS there was no kitty pryde and in the cartoons, Bishop was also a time traveler from a different future in the comics. TAS was also loosely adapted like the movie . The movie indeed chose to use time travel so only wolverine could go because he was the heart of the movies, he was the most experienced and he was the strongest of what they had left from the adult characters of the old x-men trilogy. Wolverine going has nothing to do with a guy having metal in the bodies because wolverine was created first before the terminator. dont repeat this nonsense again.The resistance is both the X-Men and the brotherhood of evil mutants depending on who’s side you are one or your POV. In the comics kitty went to the xmen to get them together to stop the assassination, in the movies wolverine went to the xmen what was left of it after First Class( not after dark phoenix like in the comics) which was Xavier and beast to help him try and stop the assassination. In the comics, kitty told them it was mystique and her brotherhood of mutants they needed to stop at a political hearing. In the movies wolverine said it was mystique they needed to stop at a political hearing. Again, quite similar to the comics not terminator . Do remember also that this is a comic adaption so nothing was directly alike same, can be said for Civil War, Watchmen and the death of superman/dawn of justice. Uum, wait are you saying x-men is a rip off of harry potter? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_influences_and_analoguesclearly not really. I take that to be sarcasm. You said that on IMDB out of spite. As for people saying you hate xmen because of the MCU, that used to be your behavior, I do recall you were called out again because you went on the Xforce board and trashed the movie. You will trash the xmen movies with bs reasons but defend the MCU movies that were clearly weaker and more superficial. It does have a lot to do with MCU because MCU fans hate marvel movies not made by the MCU and go to great lengths to discredit those movie like you are doing now with DOFP/Terminator 2. Let me guess, you think Homecoming is better than Spiderman 1 and 2 right? I don't buy you liking first class and Logan or legion. You seemed hurt by Legion's distinctive critical acclaim, it was too much you indeed. As I said unless you can show me Claremont himself time traveled, what you said is pure BS. trust me had DOFP been such an openly blatant rip off, the reception of the film would not have escaped that level of criticism or notice by others, see your avengers and gotg sequels that ripped of their first movies and the reaction those sequels got for ripping of their first movies. But as an MCU fan, I bet you will rush to start defending those movies. so do drop it. He also ripped-off Cameron's movie. Tell me: Was there a scene in the comics where they had to break someone out of some kind of prison? Anywhere in the DoFP comic? Can you kindly post the page or even a link for me? Hmm where did that come from? Oh yeah T2. What about the scene in the comics when the person from the future immediately gets into a fight with some thugs then steals the guy's vehicle? What page was that on? That came from T2, also. I can continue if you want. Yes, they already killed off Kelly. That's why I said the movie should have taken place during X1. Do you know what manufactured drama is? First Class to DoFP didn't flow organically. That's why they had it take place a decade later. So no it was not a direct sequel to First Class. That's like saying the new Blade Runner is a direct sequel to the 1st. She didn't know about the machines. And why didn't she kill Stryker? He was the one that brought her friends to Trask. They used the comics to justify it. But, the structure of the movie was T2. DoFP was a tribute. Send it to the Hunger Games. Yes, those things were in the comics. But whole scenes and plot points were taken from T2 (and even X2). Kitty Pryde was in the movie. And so was Bishop. So they could have sent them back in time, physically. But... he was the lead of the old trilogy. Not this one. Xavier and Erik are the leads of the new movies. Kitty was Xavier's student before Logan came to the mansion. She'd know him better. Him having a metal skeleton has everything to do with him going back. They kept adding on reasons for why it can only be him. All it took for Kitty to go back in the comics was her phasing powers. A telepath and a woman with phasing powers. Oh snap they had both of those things in the movie. Wonder why they didn't use them. No the resistance is the X-men. Cyclops, Jean, and Storm and Logan. You see, they sent back the terminator... I mean Logan to get him out of the place he was in. Xavier is the John Connor of the movie if you didn't notice. They both are even hackers. Weird that. Actually, in the comics they didn't know who it was. Mystique disguised herself as a random woman. Yes, it was an adaption of a comic. But Civil War didn't take from another movie did it? BvS didn't take from another movie. Watchmen only changed minor things, but was pretty close to the comics. Yes, sarcasm. Why do you think I'm trashing the movies? DoFP being a rip-off of T2 shouldn't be a reason why the movie isn't good. It is you who is seeing it as trashing the movie. No that's not why I didn't like the movie. Actually, I do defend the X-men movies and shows when there is a reason to defend them. So you are saying that people that didn't like the X-men movies before the MCU was even started hated them X-men movies because they weren't in the MCU? Way back in 2003? Half a decade before the MCU started? Is that what you are saying? My dislike for the Raimi Spider-man movies has to do with Raimi's style. Raimi's style fits with the Evil Dead movies, but not with Spider-man. You can tell that when he made money with the 1st movie the gave him a little rope. That's why Spider-man 2 has a lot a Evil Dead elements to it. Nah, I actually liked Logan, Deadpool and First Class. Me liking First Class is probably near the top of why I didn't like DoFP. Singer took everything that was accomplished in First Class and threw it all away in DoFP. It was like it was all for nothing. And, oh yeah, I also liked Legion. Watched the entire season and waiting for the next. I'm also watching Gifted. Have to watch the latest episode of that. But had to watch Lucifer (a DC series) 1st. You don't know me kid. Claremont didn't have to time travel. They only took some elements from his story to justify the rip-off of T2. They actually didn't rip-off their 1st movies. Which is kind of a stupid thing to say when they are a series and should be a little similar. If you said Avengers 2 ripped-off Kangaroo Jack then there would be something because that is a totally different movie. No, you drop it. I did say in the previous post that I don't care and you are the one constantly bringing it up. I'm just responding to you. If you said nothing after this about the comparisons to T2, guess what, I won't either. NO- There was no scene in the comics where they had to break anyone out of prison, but that scene was more of a follow up of the event of first class not the comics and as we see in the old film, magneto had been in prison before and broken out. Not to mention he was in prison this time for ‘‘killing the president.’’ And do you know how many people have broken out of prisons in films? Start with Iron Man 1 , tony breaks out of prison. Then You can start saying every film where a person breaks out of prison ripped of T2 including the movies made before 1992. If the movie had taken place during X1, how would they have reacted the entire X1 and why would the movie take place in X1 when X1 and First Class are two different movies 40 years apart, And even if we look passed that and just say, let it take place in X1, a bigger and more important aspect of the comics will be ignored because there won’t have been any dystopian future which was essential to the story far more than who even travelled to the past. Okay hold on, why did she not kill Stryker, let me think for this one. Raven had no knowledge of Stryker in the film, they had not even met at all personally apart from brief run ins. If memory serves me well, in DOFP at the time, Raven had not killed anyone yet. Her focus was on trask, who in the original timeline she killed because he killed her friends. Raven and styrker did not have any link in the original movies or in DOFP. For her to want to kill him. By X2 sure but in FC and DOFP? NO. Stryker was not even a hater of mutants then because Jason was not born. Once again, you did not say what happened in the film. They used comics to justify the movie not T2, in reality the structure of the movies is the comics and a story to first class as I have proven that you chose to ignore. DOFP was a tribute sent to the hunger games? I think the sad part of that comment is that the hunger games had more maturity and storytelling than MCU movies but that is a discussion for another day, this is hungers games where kids kill other kids and rebel against oppressive government and what mcu main focus on is selling toys to kids and doing silly comedy to ‘lighten things up’’ ..LOL. okay. As an X-Men fan, the themes and nature of hunger games stories does have some similarities to x-men, I am proud they can get compared unlike the MCU movies that makes me ashamed that xmen is still marvel considering how mindless the mcu movies are. MCU can’t even make a brilliant , suspenseful and powerful political film like Hunger Games: Catching Fire or DOFP without dumbing it down to an insulting level for fans and audiences. Okay, let me show were you got off the rails, you said having metal claws had everything to do with but remember Wolverine did not have any metal claws in the 1970s and his metal claws did not add anything to the movie. So wolverine going back to the past is not terminator since he was not a guy with metal claws neither is weapon x an important part of the film. how would kitty have gone back when kitty was the one with the power to send people back, She could not send herself Let me bring it back to the comics, Rachel was the one with the power to send people back so she too could not go herself, she chose kitty or they chose kitty what was left of xmen, which is the same as the movies. that is not T2. let’s not go over heads. You said a telepath and a woman with shapeshifitng powers but remember that was in the comics before T2. Here is the link COMICS ONLY deadshirt.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/dofp.jpgstatic.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/57969/3859438-1320241759-mysti.jpgJust in case the link does not work card is used, here is the recap summary uncannyxmen.net/comics/issue/uncanny-x-men-1st-series-142As you see, it was Mystique a shapeshifter and Destiny, her confident, also a psychic that tried to assassinate kelly. That was the comics not T2. DOFP movie got that from the comics. Fact. all that is missing in the movie is that raven did not have minions...reason we call it loosely adapted. Yeah they sent back the terminator who was naturally born with ‘’BONE CLAWS’’ and only used bone claws to fight in the past unlike Terminator who used his metal stuff to fight in the past. lol Xavier is the john conner. Let’s test that theory with the comics and maybe T2 if we get there. In the comics, Xavier was dead by then, the leader of the xmen.. Cyclops was dead too so who was 3rd in command in the comics? Storm. Storm takes leadership, she takes Xavier's place as the leader and with guess who? Magneto.(like the movie) In the comics it was storm, logan, magneto, frank Richards, rachel and colossus that send kitty (kate) back in time. Storm and Magneto been the leaders of the team then, Magneto even doing what a leaders does by giving his own life in the comics, We got something similar in the movies too until he was saved by blink...reason we call it loosely adapted. In the movies it was Xavier, storm, magneto, kitty, colossus that sent wolverine back, so as you can see Xavier in the movie was not Jon from T2 , he was playing the part of Storm from the DOFP comics. The leader of the xmen, a part he would have played in the comics had he lived. So Don’t repeat this Xavier/Jon T2 nonsense again. Unless of course you can say in the comics that never happened that used to be your stick on IMDB right? Well as proven DOFP did not take from another movie but maybe iron man 1 did since tony stark broke out prison in Iron Man 1 and I think in Thor 1, he also broke out from SHIELD's prison. Heys, its your logic not mine ....Anyone who breaks out of prison is a T2 rip off...forget why they are in prison in the first place and why they need to break out of prison too.(sarcasm). Well I won’t call it trash now would I. I think trash comes with more honesty and saying what occurred in the films, you don’t do that. However I do think your fanfic version of DOFP/T2 is trash as I easily just dismantled everything you said with actual facts thanks to the comics not T2. I think people that did not like the xmen movies before the mcu movies came along has nothing to with what is going on now , as you see there is more hate for MCU movies with good reasons. Considering the joke cgi mess that are mcu movies which as of currently has almost giving the genre a transformers type of reputation. People hold up 2003 X2 very dear to them. Okay to cut the long story short, you disliked the old spiderman movies but liked homecoming. How not shocking for MCU fans. I remember when Homecoming came out and fans, everyone and critics said while it was an improvement to the webb movies, it does not touch the raimi’s movies and they were right but all MCU fans went on a melt down rant and showed lack of knowledge for spidey , Raimi’s style fitted spiderman more than the mcu, in fact what I loved about his style was that it was like watching Spiderman TAS come to life which is to date the best animated version of Spiderman and the closest to the comics minus the .. no gwen stacy before MJ. . i hate to say this but homecoming was everything i feared it would be, Disney channel nonsense. That is not Spiderman at all. I liked first class as well. I usually watch first class when I want to watch serious and compelling comic film not directed by Singer or Nolan. Sadly I can’t do that with MCU movies. Claremont did not have to time travel? What does that even me? And as you see in he end DOFP did not rip of T2 because I corrected you on everything with using the comics. So let it go, you cant argue with actual facts backed up with an overwhelming evidence which I post again. uncannyxmen.net/comics/issue/x-men-1st-series-141uncannyxmen.net/comics/issue/uncanny-x-men-1st-series-142
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 21, 2017 10:25:20 GMT
Whoo boy, when someone says that the Hunger Games movies are deeper than an MCU movie, you know you're dealing with a delusional.
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Post by summers8 on Oct 21, 2017 10:39:27 GMT
Magneto steps aside in Apocalypse and lets Nur take control because he knows hes more powerful than himself. Gee, I missed that I have only seen the film once, it was so bad for an xmen movie I never cared to watch it again but it comes as no suprise thatguy ignored this . there seems to be a lot of ignore tactics from the right end mcu fans . this is not even about if you like a movie or not. this is about stating what happened in a film truthfully. thank god 99% of the rest of us regardless of if you like xmen, marvel and dc don't use this tactics. We don't need too.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 21, 2017 10:56:02 GMT
Magneto steps aside in Apocalypse and lets Nur take control because he knows hes more powerful than himself. Gee, I missed that I have only seen the film once, it was so bad for an xmen movie I never cared to watch it again but it comes as no suprise thatguy ignored this . there seems to be a lot of ignore tactics from the right end mcu fans . this is not even about if you like a movie or not. this is about stating what happened in a film truthfully. thank god 99% of the rest of us regardless of if you like xmen, marvel and dc don't use this tactics. We don't need too. Except the FoX-Men fans and DC Fans were the ones who pioneered those tactics...
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Post by charzhino on Oct 21, 2017 13:13:56 GMT
Gee, I missed that I have only seen the film once, it was so bad for an xmen movie I never cared to watch it again but it comes as no suprise thatguy ignored this . there seems to be a lot of ignore tactics from the right end mcu fans . this is not even about if you like a movie or not. this is about stating what happened in a film truthfully. thank god 99% of the rest of us regardless of if you like xmen, marvel and dc don't use this tactics. We don't need too. Except the FoX-Men fans and DC Fans were the ones who pioneered those tactics... He has you on ignore.
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Post by summers8 on Oct 21, 2017 14:29:21 GMT
I think I missed the part that xavier and john are hackers so its a copy...wait, what? Xavier is a hacker? so Xavier like his 1960s comics self is a hacker, is this like Iron Man 2 When tony hacks into all the government system to expose the hypocrisy. why did tony need to hack into the system why did john need to hack into the system why did 'Xavier' need to hack into the pentagon? Can I throw in other movies that had hacking scenes .....social media, skyfall, winter solider, oceans 11 as all T2 rip offs because there are hack scenes as well. lets all play dumb on the nature of the movie plot or the character motives for hacking. you play, I won't. Look at me still even keeping it classy with a mindless waste of a movie such as iron man 2 but I don't need to call iron man 2 a hack of other films that have the exact same purpose since tony is military guy and that goes hand in hand in hacking unlike xavier. MCU fans, shows some class already, your hurting the MCU with this type of embrassing retarded comments. Wow, I have no clue T2 created HACKING until I saw many movies that had hacking and read some of the xmen books where xavier could sometimes get dirty and ask sage and mystique to hack into anti mutants organisation for information. And they ask me if I read comics? should I call DOFP a masterpiece now? if MCU fans are getting this silly and delusional to try and take down the movie then the movie must be indeed a masterpiece. Thaguy? so movie hacking was invented in T2 huh? and it was not even xavier, it was beast that did the hacking. Also in the DOFP comics , the last effort by the mutants was..wait for it..... Hacking/Breaking in...call it what you want. BOOYEAH. In the comics, the mutants were tired of physically fighting so they chose to get all geeky. Storm, Colossus, Rachel, Wolverine ,unconscious Kitty secretly broke into into the sentinel factory to once and for all take down the sentinels, their last plan was to hack into the setinels government building and reverse their operations and shut them down from their power core by any means necessary. they failed and got killed .....it happened 11 years before T2 had a hacking scene on ATMS or even any type of take over machines-A.I stuff. uncannyxmen.net/comics/issue/uncanny-x-men-1st-series-142Link...right here on the DOFP comic hacking lead by Storm in the 1981 comics not John Conner from T2 1991 Led by Storm in comics Led by Xavier in movies both along with scott, the leaders of the xmen in every xmen incarnation. the xmen who combat and resist every mutant threats since freaking 1963, what is Jon the leader off before storm and Charles. Sorry, Storm and Charles got their first decades before John did. beautiful facts Thatguy, see this is what happens when you love dumb comic films like avengers and not smart ones like DOFP? You make a big fool of you. I don't think weridraptor will sink this low and here I thought he was the worst of the mcu fanboys. How can the mcu movies be so bad that their fans will act this tacky just to attack other better movies. what an awful situation for MCU fans to be in.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 21, 2017 14:40:09 GMT
Except the FoX-Men fans and DC Fans were the ones who pioneered those tactics... He has you on ignore. I don't care. I do enjoy his meltdowns though.
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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 21, 2017 15:24:10 GMT
Whoo boy, when someone says that the Hunger Games movies are deeper than an MCU movie, you know you're dealing with a delusional. I liked Hunger Games when it was called Battle Royale.
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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 21, 2017 15:34:10 GMT
I think I missed the part that xavier and john are hackers so its a copy...wait, what? Xavier is a hacker? so Xavier like his 1960s comics self is a hacker, is this like Iron Man 2 When tony hacks into all the government system to expose the hypocrisy. why did tony need to hack into the system why did john need to hack into the system why did 'Xavier' need to hack into the pentagon? Can I throw in other movies that had hacking scenes .....social media, skyfall, winter solider, oceans 11 as all T2 rip offs because there are hack scenes as well. lets all play dumb on the nature of the movie plot or the character motives for hacking. you play, I won't. Look at me still even keeping it classy with a mindless waste of a movie such as iron man 2 but I don't need to call iron man 2 a hack of other films that have the exact same purpose since tony is military guy and that goes hand in hand in hacking unlike xavier. MCU fans, shows some class already, your hurting the MCU with this type of embrassing retarded comments. Wow, I have no clue T2 created HACKING until I saw many movies that had hacking and read some of the xmen books where xavier could sometimes get dirty and ask sage and mystique to hack into anti mutants organisation for information. And they ask me if I read comics? should I call DOFP a masterpiece now? if MCU fans are getting this silly and delusional to try and take down the movie then the movie must be indeed a masterpiece. Thaguy? so movie hacking was invented in T2 huh? and it was not even xavier, it was beast that did the hacking. Also in the DOFP comics , the last effort by the mutants was..wait for it..... Hacking/Breaking in...call it what you want. BOOYEAH. In the comics, the mutants were tired of physically fighting so they chose to get all geeky. Storm, Colossus, Rachel, Wolverine ,unconscious Kitty secretly broke into into the sentinel factory to once and for all take down the sentinels, their last plan was to hack into the setinels government building and reverse their operations and shut them down from their power core by any means necessary. they failed and got killed .....it happened 11 years before T2 had a hacking scene on ATMS or even any type of take over machines-A.I stuff. uncannyxmen.net/comics/issue/uncanny-x-men-1st-series-142Link...right here on the DOFP comic hacking lead by Storm in the 1981 comics not John Conner from T2 1991 Led by Storm in comics Led by Xavier in movies both along with scott, the leaders of the xmen in every xmen incarnation. the xmen who combat and resist every mutant threats since freaking 1963, what is Jon the leader off before storm and Charles. Sorry, Storm and Charles got their first decades before John did. beautiful facts Thatguy, see this is what happens when you love dumb comic films like avengers and not smart ones like DOFP? You make a big fool of you. I don't think weridraptor will sink this low and here I thought he was the worst of the mcu fanboys. How can the mcu movies be so bad that their fans will act this tacky just to attack other better movies. what an awful situation for MCU fans to be in. Xavier is a telepath. A mind hacker if you will. All he does is override people's brains. One of John's skills in T2 is hacking machines. The part you are not getting is that it isn't the parts that make it a rip-off of T2. It's the total of all those parts. Well, only person making a fool of themselves is you, kitten.
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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 21, 2017 15:35:28 GMT
Magneto steps aside in Apocalypse and lets Nur take control because he knows hes more powerful than himself. He had them all mind controlled.
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Post by summers8 on Oct 21, 2017 16:42:02 GMT
I think I missed the part that xavier and john are hackers so its a copy...wait, what? Xavier is a hacker? so Xavier like his 1960s comics self is a hacker, is this like Iron Man 2 When tony hacks into all the government system to expose the hypocrisy. why did tony need to hack into the system why did john need to hack into the system why did 'Xavier' need to hack into the pentagon? Can I throw in other movies that had hacking scenes .....social media, skyfall, winter solider, oceans 11 as all T2 rip offs because there are hack scenes as well. lets all play dumb on the nature of the movie plot or the character motives for hacking. you play, I won't. Look at me still even keeping it classy with a mindless waste of a movie such as iron man 2 but I don't need to call iron man 2 a hack of other films that have the exact same purpose since tony is military guy and that goes hand in hand in hacking unlike xavier. MCU fans, shows some class already, your hurting the MCU with this type of embrassing retarded comments. Wow, I have no clue T2 created HACKING until I saw many movies that had hacking and read some of the xmen books where xavier could sometimes get dirty and ask sage and mystique to hack into anti mutants organisation for information. And they ask me if I read comics? should I call DOFP a masterpiece now? if MCU fans are getting this silly and delusional to try and take down the movie then the movie must be indeed a masterpiece. Thaguy? so movie hacking was invented in T2 huh? and it was not even xavier, it was beast that did the hacking. Also in the DOFP comics , the last effort by the mutants was..wait for it..... Hacking/Breaking in...call it what you want. BOOYEAH. In the comics, the mutants were tired of physically fighting so they chose to get all geeky. Storm, Colossus, Rachel, Wolverine ,unconscious Kitty secretly broke into into the sentinel factory to once and for all take down the sentinels, their last plan was to hack into the setinels government building and reverse their operations and shut them down from their power core by any means necessary. they failed and got killed .....it happened 11 years before T2 had a hacking scene on ATMS or even any type of take over machines-A.I stuff. uncannyxmen.net/comics/issue/uncanny-x-men-1st-series-142Link...right here on the DOFP comic hacking lead by Storm in the 1981 comics not John Conner from T2 1991 Led by Storm in comics Led by Xavier in movies both along with scott, the leaders of the xmen in every xmen incarnation. the xmen who combat and resist every mutant threats since freaking 1963, what is Jon the leader off before storm and Charles. Sorry, Storm and Charles got their first decades before John did. beautiful facts Thatguy, see this is what happens when you love dumb comic films like avengers and not smart ones like DOFP? You make a big fool of you. I don't think weridraptor will sink this low and here I thought he was the worst of the mcu fanboys. How can the mcu movies be so bad that their fans will act this tacky just to attack other better movies. what an awful situation for MCU fans to be in. Xavier is a telepath. A mind hacker if you will. All he does is override people's brains. One of John's skills in T2 is hacking machines. The part you are not getting is that it isn't the parts that make it a rip-off of T2. It's the total of all those parts. Well, only person making a fool of themselves is you, kitten. So Xavier's mutant powers is that he is a telepath since 1963. he has used and abused it alot since before John Conner was born? maybe john saw xavier as a role model or something, after all James Cameroon was a fan of xmen before he became a film maker and wanted to make an xmen movie himself. it was even james cameron's fanboyness that kind ruined the movie compared to the comics. John's skills was hacking since 1991 but he is not a telepath, he can't override pure humans brains, ironically for xavier as a telepath , he can't override machines. so they are the very polar opposite. the totals of those parts? which parts?. let's sum up the total more. Xavier told beast to hack into the pentagon so they can get magneto out of prison to have a chat with mystique. john hacked into ATMs system to get money for his mum. I don't see any money wanting in DOFP neither do I see breaking a character out of prison like magneto in T2 for falsely killing the president. that was the total. I added the total of both parts. and they are not the same, nothing is similar in story,, once again a poor reflection of you and mcu movies.
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Post by summers8 on Oct 21, 2017 16:45:02 GMT
Magneto steps aside in Apocalypse and lets Nur take control because he knows hes more powerful than himself. He had them all mind controlled. He didn't. here is the transcript of the movie. Point out where apocalypse had magneto on mind control transcripts.wikia.com/wiki/X-Men:_ApocalypseMagneto by free will chose to shack up with Apocalypse.
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Post by charzhino on Oct 21, 2017 16:53:46 GMT
Magneto steps aside in Apocalypse and lets Nur take control because he knows hes more powerful than himself. He had them all mind controlled. Thats debatable. It seems he just has exceptional influence. If he was mind controlling them, then Eric is free of punishment from killing all the people around the world in his global magnetic shift attack and Xavier is right in letting him walk free. But I dont believe that theory.
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Post by summers8 on Oct 21, 2017 16:58:20 GMT
He had them all mind controlled. Thats debatable. It seems he just has exceptional influence. If he was mind controlling them, then Eric is free of punishment from killing all the people around the world in his global magnetic shift attack and Xavier is right in letting him walk free. But I dont believe that theory. Not only that, magneto is too much of a character to get controlled. I can say Apo played on magneto's raw grief then but at the end of the day it was magneto by free will that chose to become a horseman, same for storm. I cannot remember the stories of the other two horsemen but I do remember apo promising magneto and storm for blessing if they joined him or something.
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Post by claudius on Oct 21, 2017 17:58:54 GMT
All these comments about hacking and Pentagon reminds me of UXM#158 (1982), when Ororo, Logan, Kurt and Carol Danvers infiltrated the Pentagon to get rid of all files concerning the X-Men, leading to a battle with Mystique and (for the first time) Rogue.
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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 21, 2017 18:06:14 GMT
He had them all mind controlled. Thats debatable. It seems he just has exceptional influence. If he was mind controlling them, then Eric is free of punishment from killing all the people around the world in his global magnetic shift attack and Xavier is right in letting him walk free. But I dont believe that theory. That's the word I was looking for. He had suggestive powers. Not full on telepathic mind control. That's why he wanted Xavier.
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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 21, 2017 18:08:28 GMT
Thats debatable. It seems he just has exceptional influence. If he was mind controlling them, then Eric is free of punishment from killing all the people around the world in his global magnetic shift attack and Xavier is right in letting him walk free. But I dont believe that theory. Not only that, magneto is too much of a character to get controlled. I can say Apo played on magneto's raw grief then but at the end of the day it was magneto by free will that chose to become a horseman, same for storm. I cannot remember the stories of the other two horsemen but I do remember apo promising magneto and storm for blessing if they joined him or something. You mean after Apocalypse did something to them.
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Post by summers8 on Oct 21, 2017 18:25:59 GMT
All these comments about hacking and Pentagon reminds me of UXM#158 (1982), when Ororo, Logan, Kurt and Carol Danvers infiltrated the Pentagon to get rid of all files concerning the X-Men, leading to a battle with Mystique and (for the first time) Rogue. I see that..yeah, remember in the comics when xavier used to hire mercenaries (Sage) to hack into government places, And she was gifted at it because that was her mutant power. I think Sage is going to be in Gifted on fox. I cannot wait for thatguy to call her a rippoff OF john conner when she uses her mutant powers to control computers and machines illegally, he will forget Sage debuted in 1980 and has been doing just that, 12 years before John. The now classic astonishing xmen comics 7-11, it was revealed xavier manipulated the danger room for years and a being called Danger was alive all this time. she turned on them and hacked into all the systems in the xavier institute including the black bird, she turned Cerebro on all the telepaths , . she tried to use the danger room to kill the students then kicked the asses of the xmen for using her for years. remember what she did to Wing? maybe this is a T2 rip off too because there was hacking in that storyline. First episode of XMEN TAS, the infamous one Morph got ''killed'', Xavier told his xmen to hack into the sentinel agency because they were abusing the mutant registration act and he wanted all the files. But mcu fans want us to ignore xmen own stories and accept something as stupid and ridiculous that DOFP is a T2 rip off because none of their mediocre MCU comedies can touch that movie. See this is why I beg the mcu to make serious comic films like DOFP and Logan, if they did , these mcu fans will not be this insane and try to take out that insanity on xmen and xfans. I am bored teaching mcu babies.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 21, 2017 18:47:31 GMT
All these comments about hacking and Pentagon reminds me of UXM#158 (1982), when Ororo, Logan, Kurt and Carol Danvers infiltrated the Pentagon to get rid of all files concerning the X-Men, leading to a battle with Mystique and (for the first time) Rogue. I see that..yeah, remember in the comics when xavier used to hire mercenaries (Sage) to hack into government places, And she was gifted at it because that was her mutant power. I think Sage is going to be in Gifted on fox. I cannot wait for thatguy to call her a rippoff OF john conner when she uses her mutant powers to control computers and machines illegally, he will forget Sage debuted in 1980 and has been doing just that, 12 years before John. The now classic astonishing xmen comics 7-11, it was revealed xavier manipulated the danger room for years and a being called Danger was alive all this time. she turned on them and hacked into all the systems in the xavier institute including the black bird, she turned Cerebro on all the telepaths , . she tried to use the danger room to kill the students then kicked the asses of the xmen for using her for years. remember what she did to Wing? maybe this is a T2 rip off too because there was hacking in that storyline. First episode of XMEN TAS, the infamous one Morph got ''killed'', Xavier told his xmen to hack into the sentinel agency because they were abusing the mutant registration act and he wanted all the files. But mcu fans want us to ignore xmen own stories and accept something as stupid and ridiculous that DOFP is a T2 rip off because none of their mediocre MCU comedies can touch that movie. See this is why I beg the mcu to make serious comic films like DOFP and Logan, if they did , these mcu fans will not be this insane and try to take out that insanity on xmen and xfans. I am bored teaching mcu babies. Being someone with a robotic mind makes Sage more a knock-off of Vision than anyone else.
And DOFP can't match stuff like Civil War or Winter Soldier or GOTG, it only got a good reception for brining the old cast back. Logan was overrated too.
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