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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2018 4:43:50 GMT
The biggest MCU defenders here (the MCU Defense Attorneys) say that there are no continuity errors with Marvel's timeline. This is a mistake. I'm watching Civil War right now, and given what Homecoming tells us, there are some MASSIVE (and unfixable) continuity errors.
Homecoming takes place 8 years after The Avengers. Homecoming also takes place months (at most) after Civil War. The Winter Soldier takes place 2 years after The Avengers. In Civil War, Falcon says that they were looking for Bucky for 2 years. When did they start looking for Bucky? Right at the end of The Winter Solider (2 years after The Avengers).
So Civil War can't simultaneously take place right before Homecoming and 2 years after The Winter Soldier. It doesn't work, given the 8 years between Homecoming and The Avengers.
Wow. MASSIVE FUCK UP by Marvel. Wonder how they'll fix it...? Or maybe they'll just count on their SHEEP fans not questioning it...?
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Post by merh on Mar 24, 2018 5:11:21 GMT
The biggest MCU defenders here (the MCU Defense Attorneys) say that there are no continuity errors with Marvel's timeline. This is a mistake. I'm watching Civil War right now, and given what Homecoming tells us, there are some MASSIVE (and unfixable) continuity errors. Homecoming takes place 8 years after The Avengers. Homecoming also takes place months (at most) after Civil War. The Winter Soldier takes place 2 years after The Avengers. In Civil War, Falcon says that they were looking for Bucky for 2 years. When did they start looking for Bucky? Right at the end of The Winter Solider (2 years after The Avengers). So Civil War can't simultaneously take place right before Homecoming and 2 years after The Winter Soldier. It doesn't work, given the 8 years between Homecoming and The Avengers. Wow. MASSIVE FUCK UP by Marvel. Wonder how they'll fix it...? Or maybe they'll just count on their SHEEP fans not questioning it...? Who cares?
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Mar 24, 2018 5:12:27 GMT
The biggest MCU defenders here (the MCU Defense Attorneys) say that there are no continuity errors with Marvel's timeline. This is a mistake. I'm watching Civil War right now, and given what Homecoming tells us, there are some MASSIVE (and unfixable) continuity errors. Homecoming takes place 8 years after The Avengers. Homecoming also takes place months (at most) after Civil War. The Winter Soldier takes place 2 years after The Avengers. In Civil War, Falcon says that they were looking for Bucky for 2 years. When did they start looking for Bucky? Right at the end of The Winter Solider (2 years after The Avengers). So Civil War can't simultaneously take place right before Homecoming and 2 years after The Winter Soldier. It doesn't work, given the 8 years between Homecoming and The Avengers. Wow. MASSIVE FUCK UP by Marvel. Wonder how they'll fix it...? Or maybe they'll just count on their SHEEP fans not questioning it...? Who cares? DC-Fan
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2018 5:18:24 GMT
The biggest MCU defenders here (the MCU Defense Attorneys) say that there are no continuity errors with Marvel's timeline. This is a mistake. I'm watching Civil War right now, and given what Homecoming tells us, there are some MASSIVE (and unfixable) continuity errors. Homecoming takes place 8 years after The Avengers. Homecoming also takes place months (at most) after Civil War. The Winter Soldier takes place 2 years after The Avengers. In Civil War, Falcon says that they were looking for Bucky for 2 years. When did they start looking for Bucky? Right at the end of The Winter Solider (2 years after The Avengers). So Civil War can't simultaneously take place right before Homecoming and 2 years after The Winter Soldier. It doesn't work, given the 8 years between Homecoming and The Avengers. Wow. MASSIVE FUCK UP by Marvel. Wonder how they'll fix it...? Or maybe they'll just count on their SHEEP fans not questioning it...? Who cares? I'm glad we agree that Marvel fucked up the continuity. Thank you for not being delusional.
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Post by merh on Mar 24, 2018 5:32:10 GMT
I'm glad we agree that Marvel fucked up the continuity. Thank you for not being delusional. I still put The Crow near the top of the best superhero movies. Remember near the end? The church? Eric gets shot. The cop says he thought Eric was invulnerable. Eric says "I was. I'm not now" That's life. It changes with no warning. You evolve or become extinct
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2018 5:55:11 GMT
I'm glad we agree that Marvel fucked up the continuity. Thank you for not being delusional. I still put The Crow near the top of the best superhero movies. Remember near the end? The church? Eric gets shot. The cop says he thought Eric was invulnerable. Eric says "I was. I'm not now" That's life. It changes with no warning. You evolve or become extinct In this day and age, it takes a big man to admit that the Mighty MCU FUBARed. So, honestly, I appreciate you agreeing with me.
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Post by sostie on Mar 24, 2018 10:41:14 GMT
Same sort of thread started a few days ago. Bit late to the party.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 24, 2018 12:59:59 GMT
Minor flaw, easily ignored.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 24, 2018 13:41:41 GMT
lol
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Post by Daisy on Mar 24, 2018 13:51:01 GMT
One or two characters misspoke. Boom, continuity fixed.
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Post by Jedan Archer on Mar 24, 2018 14:58:39 GMT
Yeah, that title-card mess up is old news and has been made fun off on all the forums. The movie was lame, but that error does not bother me in any way.
What annoy me is how badly planned all these extended/shared universes are, not just Marvel, but current Star Wars too. They shift in tone like someone in puberty vocal change, abandon characters, concepts and entire storylines.
All this makes things like the Matrix trilogy look like a masterwork.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Mar 24, 2018 15:01:08 GMT
Dennis J. Reynold's, Esq. is on the case. Right on, brother. We've got to stick it to the Marvel man behind this timeline issue. Are you the representative plaintiff in this case or are you litigating on behalf of those who liked your post?
"Your Honor, I plan to demonstrate to the court, beyond the shadow of a Pymm Particle that the MCU timeline is irrevocably broken. Furthermore, as surely as I have a ham sandwich securely tucked away inside my briefcase, the MCU must be disbanded, and all of its future films must be shelved. Avengers Infinity war; must be canceled! Avengers 4; must be canceled! Phase 4; must be canceled! And, all of the ill-gotten billions of dollars Disney has swindled from the world populace must be returned with interest and deposited directly into the DCEU defense fund for the preservation of endangered cinematic universes. Lastly, the Class, made up of four individuals including myself, demands that Kevin Feige be brought to trial for war crimes and summarily executed."
Invested fans across the globe will abandon the franchise in droves. Can I get a Hee hee hee...?
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 24, 2018 16:07:23 GMT
What annoy me is how badly planned all these extended/shared universes are, not just Marvel, but current Star Wars too. They shift in tone like someone in puberty vocal change Life has no one tone, a Shared Universe shouldn't either. People come in and out of lives in real life all the time. Like what? You're not one of those babies upset that Cap's movies weren't all about him fighting Hydra and only Hydra are you? The Wachowskis wish they could make something like the MCU.
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Post by Jedan Archer on Mar 24, 2018 17:09:16 GMT
What annoy me is how badly planned all these extended/shared universes are, not just Marvel, but current Star Wars too. They shift in tone like someone in puberty vocal change Glad you agree. I recently watched the trilogies. What a mess. Not just the Cap one you mention (yeah but that one too, big time). Just take the Thor trilogy, every goddamn film contradicts or undermines the previous one. I am not talking about things happening outside the trilogies in other films (a staple of shared universes like Star Trek), it's that it's full of contradictions, logic & tone leaps, deus ex machina and bad writing. For instance: Film 1: Big cliffhanger ending with the destroyed rainbow bridge and star crossed lovers longing for each other (sweet), will they ever meet again? Next one: Thor was already on Earth and did not care to visit big love Jane (he was soup eating), how: he found an easy Odin-teleportation-way to return to Earth and has no real explanation why he found no time for a short visit or even call. Anyway, after Jane slaps him (funny) for not visiting her they still remain big lovebirds because of script reasons, and he introduces her to his royal family - do we hear wedding bells? WRONG, next film Thor becomes the God of Comedy starring in the classic comedy: " American Ragnarok - the Hoot and Holler of the Marvel Gods" - and talented comedian he is he has already spilt up his serious relationship with Jane and her family bc of reasons (you guessed it, it's played as a juvenile joke). He does not care about it too much or his dad dying but he cries when he's getting an stylish haircut. Oh, and betraying villain snake Loki is now his best adopted BRO because of bromance reasons, and he suddenly has a super-evil sister too because of...I give up.. It's just the tip of the iceberg, what a fucking, amateurish mess, no story plan, no congruent vision, no consistency in tone, character or motivation. The epitome of bad writing. One can tell that they just made it up while going along influenced by other factors than story or logic. We need Thor in Avengers, but he is landlocked in Thor 1 - fuck it Odin deus ex machina teleportation. What about Jane? Fuck her later in Thor 2. Star wars is popular lets insert spaceship battles BOOOM, third one: everybody agrees film 1 and 2 sucked BIG time, let's do Guardians kind of dumbed down kiddy-humor. I do not care about Marvel films, but the same thing is happening with the new SW trilogy. Planless messy pandering to the lowest common denominator and disregarding things established. People say these films will be forgotten quickly because they are low quality junk food, I say they will be forgotten because they are an unwatchable mess. This is not even up for discussion.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 24, 2018 17:22:23 GMT
Glad you agree. I recently watched the trilogies. What a mess. If you're into that bankrupt "grounded" "standalone" approach. If you hate comic books. Stopping Loki was kind of the priority. Because they realized after spending more time together that it wouldn't work. Like how real life relationships sometimes go. It's called character development. Besides he acted funny in the first movie anyways. He cared when Odin died, and the Jane thing happened far enough ago he was able to deal with it with maturity. He's still his brother he grew up with and had adventures with for years. You don't forget about stuff like that. Odin not telling anyone about her. What, you need to be spoonfed? You hate comic books. So you want to be spoonfed and don't like it when they choose to do their own thing. Anyways, the destruction of Asgard was to explain why there wouldn't be an army of Asgardians coming to defend Earth in Infinity War, for one plot point. Sorry you need to be spoonfed on that. He's the God King, you want him to be powerless? Of course Odin could do stuff like that. Blame Portman. Actually, stuff like Thor going on wacky space adventures is from the comics. If you bothered doing your homework. I've been dealing with Sequel Trilogy haters too, most of it comes down to them being offended that the OT characters weren't treated like unbeatable Gods and new characters were the stars of the new movies and that things didn't end happily ever after with the OT. IE, they're a bunch of old farts who hate that things moved on.
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Post by charzhino on Mar 24, 2018 17:37:07 GMT
I am not talking about things happening outside the trilogies in other films (a staple of shared universes like Star Trek), it's that it's full of contradictions, logic & tone leaps, deus ex machina and bad writing. Good analysis. The Thor trilogy in particular is very uneven in Tone, themes and character consistency. Its a mess to be frank, mainly because of Ragnarok is so out of tune to the first 2.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 24, 2018 18:02:58 GMT
I am not talking about things happening outside the trilogies in other films (a staple of shared universes like Star Trek), it's that it's full of contradictions, logic & tone leaps, deus ex machina and bad writing. Good analysis. The Thor trilogy in particular is very uneven in Tone, themes and character consistency. Its a mess to be frank, mainly because of Ragnarok is so out of tune to the first 2. Life itself doesn't have one tone or one theme, why should movies all be exactly the same in everything?
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Post by harpospoke on Mar 24, 2018 18:18:08 GMT
Wow. MASSIVE FUCK UP by Marvel. Wonder how they'll fix it...? Or maybe they'll just count on their SHEEP fans not questioning it...? The fact that this "massive fuck up" is something no one actually notices or cares about has got to help. I mean, you actually had to go do some research and break out a calculator to break the big news of this alleged "massive fuck up". Kinda reminds me of guys like this who are shouting in the streets that the world is coming to an end: Sure...any time now people will notice that the MCU is completely screwed up, right? Kinda like how the world ended in the year 2000 like the global warming alarmists claimed in 1988.
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Post by harpospoke on Mar 24, 2018 18:21:19 GMT
Glad you agree. I recently watched the trilogies. What a mess. Not just the Cap one you mention (yeah but that one too, big time). Just take the Thor trilogy, every goddamn film contradicts or undermines the previous one. I am not talking about things happening outside the trilogies in other films (a staple of shared universes like Star Trek), it's that it's full of contradictions, logic & tone leaps, deus ex machina and bad writing. And yet the Thor franchise is suddenly better than ever by a mile. Oddest complaint ever.
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Post by charzhino on Mar 24, 2018 18:26:24 GMT
Good analysis. The Thor trilogy in particular is very uneven in Tone, themes and character consistency. Its a mess to be frank, mainly because of Ragnarok is so out of tune to the first 2. Life itself doesn't have one tone or one theme, why should movies all be exactly the same in everything? Movies are fictional so saying "life is unpredictable" is a lazy excuse. If there are major changes then they need logical reasoning, not just "you want to be spoonfed or thats how real life works". Lazy lazy justifications. So Thor and Jane break up. But why? A story that is heavily centred around the first 2 Thor films is dropped in Ragnarok without any care. Portman may be to blame partially, but that doesnt excuse the pathetic writing in how they decided to explain it when they're in London and those girls are gossiping. Its bad writing I guess you would just shrug and say, thats character development if in Infinity War Cap is acting like Starlord, joking and goofing around.
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