Why is Marvel so much better than the DCEU?

Probably because Marvel Studios took their time and Warner Bros tried to jump right into it with BVS.

We should have at least gotten a solo Batman movie before BvS.

Kevin Feige is a genius. The DCEU doesn't have a Kevin Feige.

Instead of treating the world as a new thing, DC decided to just do popular stories. That world wasn't a thing until Avengers made all the moneyz and WB wanted that moneyz.

And you can see that they don't want to even try to build that world. They embraced the idea of the DCEU in the beginning. But when it started falling apart, they said that it was never their thing. It's too haaaard to do work. Instead of throwing up popular on a white board they should start with an endgame and work backwards. What players do you want to use to get there? Build them up, then go for the goal.

They're not, they just came out at a time when they had little real competition so people didn't know better. MCU competes against both Fox and WB today and wins.



A Makeup Oscar and other awards it got for political reasons. And for pandering to the Academy instead of being bold. Plus they took the lazy way out (as usual) and made their first movies be about their Big Guns instead of something creative.



Still disgusted with anything unpretentious, I see.

This is why the MCU will continue to excel while Fox is crumbling to dust and WB is stuck in the past.

Thanks to nostalgia and a dead actor. And no competition in 2005 and 2008 to help people know better. Put the Nolan films out now, they wouldn't do as well...in fact nothing about Nolans' films really works nowadays. MOS and BvS are proof enough of that.

If Batman Begins had come out next to Black Panther, Begins wouldn't have gotten as much attention. People aren't ashamed of stuff like superpowers or costumes or the hero actually being the lead in their own movie anymore. And if Ledger hadn't died, Dark Knight wouldn't have gotten half the attention it did.



Don't have a dead actor boosting nor are they self-contained trilogies in the first place. Put out any of the Nolan films now and they wouldn't do as well...his style of doing a CBM is just the same way he does any of his movies (characters are all either archetypes or fanatics, leads driven by nothing but obsession, etc). He'd actually struggle with his films if he had to compete against stuff like Civil War or Winter Soldier or Guardians, none of which were ashamed of the source material the way the Dark Knight Movies were.

Nolan couldn't write a story where the lead wasn't some obsessive if his life depended on it.



This bubble has lasted longer than any of its predecessors. It hasn't self-destructed the way WB and FOX always has.



Also the same thing streaming out of bitter WB and Fox fans who can't accept their way is outdated and past.

As for Oscars...David Lynch doesn't have any either, you think he's no good?



They don't pander to they Academy, in fact they thumb their noses at their outdated ideas of what a CBM should be. The Academy doesn't like that.



That wasn't what Glover was saying, but you have this unhealthy obsession with associating comic books with deviants. You need to get over your pettiness.

Iron Man also got 2 Oscar Noms, Wonder didn't get 1.

You must feel the same way about David Lynch and his career.



Had serious political shielding to ensure it got recognition. The Critic's Choice people knew it'd be suicide to not give her those awards over the other films.



Nah, he was just lucky he didn't have to contend with Black Panther or Civil War Winter Soldier. If he had, his movies wouldn't have had much of an impact. If at all.

I gotta put an element of luck in there. Marvel fans should be thankful for it.

Would there be an MCU if Marvel had Spidey, FF, and Xmen? I wonder.

I think Feige had to come up with something for Marvel to do differently because they were trying to make it work with B list characters. Just speculation here because he is a comics fan and comics fans have talked about a shared universe for decades. So that's probably something he wanted to do anyway. But it had to help that he couldn't make Spider-Man and Xmen movies. I mean....look at WB and DC. Them having the big names has been a negative for their DCU.

Marvel being smart enough to hire Feige is worth noting of course. That's not luck.

But there is usually timing and luck involved when something as game changing as the MCU happens. Several things usually have to fall into place.

Now the rest of Hollywood is trying to catch up and they are faring badly. Not sure how they are all missing how Marvel did it. The WB execs must be a special kind of stupid to just shoot for the final goal while skipping the obvious steps to get there that Marvel mapped out for them.

I am dead serious and you would not get those über-sensitive nipples if it was not true. NOLAN is the new bigger than Kubrick. His films will be revered when the MCU will be long despised and forgotten. His movies are in all Best lists unlike MCU, his Bat trilogy is in all Best trilogy lists unlike the broken, messy MCU films. NOLAN wins.
 
MCU has changed the genre indeed. From a respected Oscar worthy NOLAN-CMB genre to downgrading it to mass produced, formulaic kiddy junk food pandering to the lowest instincts by dealing with raccoon turds, dance offs, hide-the-zucchinis and Fragglerockers.

With a few exceptions such as LOGAN, which rhymes with NOLAN however. 

Do not try to fight the man! I tried. It's futile. He is just too strong. His ouvre is too unique and important. NOLAN!