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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 1:58:17 GMT
Are you kidding me? Charzhino posts this kind of crap every day. His entire shtick to pushing his opinions on us. Well don't worry that, it's the opinions that go against the norm is what creates the more interesting topics because you get different perspectives. I already said why I disagree. Why do you disagree? Except he never actually poses any interesting topics. It's always "MCU sucks and you're stupid for liking it."
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Post by scabab on Oct 21, 2018 2:23:25 GMT
Except he never actually poses any interesting topics. It's always "MCU sucks and you're stupid for liking it. Well then I'd suggest ignoring these threads and instead post in some others that are more positive and interesting. I see you posted in a thread about Ant-man's Ghost being lame and the Marvel bubble bursting as well but then you haven't posted in the threads about the Daredevil Season 3 discussion, Ant-man 3 will/should it happen, a Spider-man 2999 movie etc. You don't like the negative threads but those are the ones you mainly post in and not any of the positive ones.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 21, 2018 2:26:18 GMT
Well don't worry that, it's the opinions that go against the norm is what creates the more interesting topics because you get different perspectives. I already said why I disagree. Why do you disagree? Except he never actually poses any interesting topics. It's always "MCU sucks and you're stupid for liking it." So instead of (wait for it...) an ad-hominem attack on the guy, why not refute the arguments he summarizes in the OP? For instance, I happen to agree with what he posited about the universe feeling "shallow." In my experience, the galaxy of the MCU -- even in IW or the Guardians flicks, both of which I like, just not for that reason -- just doesn't seem as broad to me as in shows like Star Trek or even Futurama, much less a movie series like Star Wars. But this would be where you could, like, civilly disagree without insulting me, him, or poor scabab and then maybe cite some examples as to why. Innit?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 2:27:57 GMT
Except he never actually poses any interesting topics. It's always "MCU sucks and you're stupid for liking it." So instead of (wait for it...) an ad-hominem attack on the guy, why not refute the arguments he summarizes in the OP? For instance, I happen to agree with what he posited about the universe feeling "shallow." In my experience, the galaxy of the MCU -- even in IW or the Guardians flicks, both of which I like, just not for that reason -- just doesn't seem as broad to me as in shows like Star Trek or even Futurama, much less a movie series like Star Wars. But this would be where you could, like, civilly disagree without insulting me, him, or poor scabab and then maybe cite some examples as to why. Innit? There are no points to refute, because this isn't a discussion. This is Charzhino being a troll. Kind of like you, only less rancid.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 2:28:44 GMT
Except he never actually poses any interesting topics. It's always "MCU sucks and you're stupid for liking it. Well then I'd suggest ignoring these threads and instead post in some others that are more positive and interesting. I see you posted in a thread about Ant-man's Ghost being lame and the Marvel bubble bursting as well but then you haven't posted in the threads about the Daredevil Season 3 discussion, Ant-man 3 will/should it happen, a Spider-man 2999 movie etc. You don't like the negative threads but those are the ones you mainly post in and not any of the positive ones. I have my own board for discussing the finer aspects of the MCU.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 21, 2018 2:30:52 GMT
So instead of (wait for it...) an ad-hominem attack on the guy, why not refute the arguments he summarizes in the OP? For instance, I happen to agree with what he posited about the universe feeling "shallow." In my experience, the galaxy of the MCU -- even in IW or the Guardians flicks, both of which I like, just not for that reason -- just doesn't seem as broad to me as in shows like Star Trek or even Futurama, much less a movie series like Star Wars. But this would be where you could, like, civilly disagree without insulting me, him, or poor scabab and then maybe cite some examples as to why. Innit? There are no points to refute
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 2:32:41 GMT
There are no points to refute Oh, please. You'd say anything negative about the MCU to stir up trouble. Your posts and topics aren't legitimate, either.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 21, 2018 2:36:31 GMT
Oh, please. You'd say anything negative about the MCU to stir up trouble. Your posts and topics aren't legitimate, either. Nah, they are. But what about the topic at hand? What's your favorite MCU locale and how does it relate to the question of the MCU's universe feeling thin and underdeveloped to some viewers?
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Post by scabab on Oct 21, 2018 2:45:57 GMT
I have my own board for discussing the finer aspects of the MCU. Then what purpose do you have being on this board? It's not going to just be to complain about anyone who says something negative and call them trolls is it? This isn't a troll thread. There is a point to it even if we happen to disagree. If you weren't even gonna take the time to refute anything that was said in the video then there wasn't much of a need to post if it was just going to cause trouble.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 2:46:55 GMT
Oh, please. You'd say anything negative about the MCU to stir up trouble. Your posts and topics aren't legitimate, either. Nah, they are. But what about the topic at hand? What's your favorite MCU locale and how does it relate to the question of the MCU's universe feeling thin and underdeveloped to some viewers? No. I'm not doing this. I know you, Charzhino, summers, and Tristan too well. Anything I post will just be met with ridicule and you'll descend like a bunch of jackals like you always do to tell me how wrong and stupid I am. I'm not falling for this obvious setup.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 21, 2018 2:52:09 GMT
Nah, they are. But what about the topic at hand? What's your favorite MCU locale and how does it relate to the question of the MCU's universe feeling thin and underdeveloped to some viewers? No. I'm not doing this. I know you, Charzhino, summers, and Tristan too well. Anything I post will just be met with ridicule and you'll descend like a bunch of jackals like you always do to tell me how wrong and stupid I am. I'm not falling for this obvious setup. I mean. You realize how paranoid and absurd that sounds, right? Why not post a video that represents your viewpoint on this subject, if you're uncomfortable articulating your own argument? That would still be on-topic and not a distraction. Innit?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 2:58:50 GMT
No. I'm not doing this. I know you, Charzhino, summers, and Tristan too well. Anything I post will just be met with ridicule and you'll descend like a bunch of jackals like you always do to tell me how wrong and stupid I am. I'm not falling for this obvious setup. I mean. You realize how paranoid and absurd that sounds, right? Why not post a video that represents your viewpoint on this subject, if you're uncomfortable articulating your own argument? That would still be on-topic and not a distraction. Innit? Dude, Tristan used to stalk my every post on here even though I had him blocked for the majority of my time here. He would reply and ridicule me relentlessly no matter how long I ignored him, and it went on for about a year. And the Charzhino's central points have been thoroughly debunked by several people, plus a video by captainmidnight, which ThatGuy posted.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 21, 2018 3:00:11 GMT
I mean. You realize how paranoid and absurd that sounds, right? Why not post a video that represents your viewpoint on this subject, if you're uncomfortable articulating your own argument? That would still be on-topic and not a distraction. Innit? Dude, Tristan used to stalk my every post on here even though I had him blocked for the majority of my time here. He would reply and ridicule me relentlessly no matter how long I ignored him, and it went on for about a year. And the Charzhino's central points have been thoroughly debunked by several people, plus a video by captainmidnight, which ThatGuy posted. Cool. I'll watch it after the Purdue/OSU and Oregon/Wazzu games end.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 3:03:23 GMT
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Post by scabab on Oct 21, 2018 3:20:24 GMT
No. I'm not doing this. I know you, Charzhino, summers, and Tristan too well. Anything I post will just be met with ridicule and you'll descend like a bunch of jackals like you always do to tell me how wrong and stupid I am. I'm not falling for this obvious setup. I wouldn't let that happen any more than I'd let it happen the other way around. People should be allowed to make any opinion they want without being hounded on. See, that is more the route to go in. Perhaps mention any key counter points that are made in the video as examples like Charzhino did. Then a discussion begins to emerge.
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Post by kratos on Oct 21, 2018 3:39:01 GMT
I saw the original video and I've seen some counter videos and I agree with some things and not others.
It doesn't seem small to me, because they also moved away from Earth with the GOTG and Infinity War brought them all together well and each movie has something that is connected to another.
Even Doctor Strange which was mostly it's own thing still had connections to the other movies.
But then some things I'm more iffy on. Like Iron Man 3 had all that stuff going on with the President involved and a global terrorist but there was no mention of Shield.
Malekith was a bigger threat in Thor Dark World than Ultron but no mention of The Avengers. Same with Winter Soldier, they were about to wipe out millions and yet where is Iron Man and War Machine?
But they've doing pretty well to say nothing like it has been done like this before.
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Post by summers8 on Oct 21, 2018 6:43:54 GMT
1, you should top slandering people because they say the truth. Mickey was not a diva, he is a character study actor who wanted better. that was the truth also thatguy once said he was a diva too. SOCK.
so you lied about rouke. typical.
2, few well respected directors dont work with mcu, many despise them the few that do dont consider mcu movies to be their best work.
what separated people like Singer (professionally) and nolan is. for their fans, smart audiences and critics it is 50/50 what is their best film.
TDK vs Inception
X2 vs Unusual suspect.
MCU is a disgrace on all levels and more people are speaking out that is having impact. deal with it.
Glad chazino picked up your tirck. you always try to deflect the topic. it does mean MCU is totial trash, why else do you always deflect.
You really need to work on your grammar and spelling. You sound like like you hit your head on something and you've ignored the swelling for years. 1 - Mickey Rourke is a diva. It's a pretty well known opinion of the guy. There's no other word for it. He's burned a lot of bridges in Hollywood and his career has suffered because of it. He was riding high off of his success with The Wrestler at the time and thought he could call the shots even though he signed on the dotted line for his paycheck. How is any of that a lie? 2 - So you speak for directors now? Ryan Coogler is coming back for the Black Panther sequel. He wouldn't even come back for Creed II. No one is discounting Nolan's work. I respect and enjoy his films very much. His talent is apparent and consistent. Singer is a one trick pony that had some early success and has since run out of steam. What else has he done that's really noteworthy other than the first two X-Men films and The Usual Suspects? He has just as many misfires in his resume as successes. Jack The Giant Slayer? Superman Returns? X-Men Apocalypse? All crap. Apt Pupil and Valkyrie were average. He got lucky with DOFP thanks to the help of Matthew Vaugn and the influence of the comic book storyline it's based on. You can say the MCU is a disgrace and trash for you personally. It's not the general consensus though. You can keep fighting this uphill battle all you want if it makes you feel better, but it's not having any impact on anything and you're definitely in the minority. Sounds like you're the one that needs to deal with it. 1. mickey rouke was not a diva, unless you mean a diva is when a person wants a 3 dimensional character in their movie and is forced to play one dimensional useless character and he hated it.
2. We know mcu fans hates Nolan, rami, Snger and the rest, it is less easy to hate singer and raimi more because they made Marvel movies that were superior to mcu movies. that is more damaging to mcu than a DC movie like TDK or wonder woman.
Singer has X1, X2, DOFP, First class under his belt. all movies superior to mcu, in fact that video factually showcased when makes X1 better film than avengers.
3. the general consensus is mcu is dumbed down fun. people know mcu is tashy entertainment where they leave their brains at the door and have fun, that is trash. the general consensus of the best xmen and dc movies is they were intellectual minded comic movies drama not goofy fun fr kids like mcu. the general consuses is mcu movies are not real films to be taken seriously.
4. everyone knows Creed is a superior film to black panther, also dont you notice how black panther is usually called a poor version of an xavier and magneto xmen film. let me ask this qustion I dare you to answer.
Which is better, more compelling and more acclaimed byhumanity.
Xavier/Magneto conflict (X-Men 1) vs Black Panther/Kill Monger conflict (BP)?
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Oct 21, 2018 7:14:46 GMT
1. rouke
2. We know mcu fans hates Nolan, rami, Snger
1. ROOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUU RRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKE!!! 2. No we don’t because I’m a MCU fan and Nolan and Ra imi are among my favorite directors of all time and I love S inger as a director.
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Post by summers8 on Oct 21, 2018 15:21:44 GMT
you know when you look at thor 3, imagine if they had not brought in hulk in the film, take him out and focus on the true nature of Ragnarök and give thor a better more challenging arc.
but no mcu cant do that hard work. they just turned thor to gotg, have him crossover with another marvel series, make a lot of jokes and bamb. that is what they call a movie. that is what their fans try to defend. pathetic.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 21, 2018 16:15:57 GMT
you know when you look at thor 3, imagine if they had not brought in hulk in the film, take him out and focus on the true nature of Ragnarök and give thor a better more challenging arc. but no mcu cant do that hard work. they just turned thor to gotg, have him crossover with another marvel series, make a lot of jokes and bamb. that is what they call a movie. that is what their fans try to defend. pathetic. I haven't seen Thor 3, but I think the emphasis on (/inclusion of) Bruce had to do with them not having the rights to make separate Hulk films but wanting to do something with the character. Not saying I agree with the choice or even that they executed it well -- or didn't. Just that that's why he's so prominent in the flick. They wanted to give him like a 3-film arc across Rag, IWp1, and IWp2. Anwyway, I'm sure you're right and the humor undermines the drama to the point of it sucking, but... yeah.
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