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Post by Agent of Chaos on Oct 31, 2018 4:08:45 GMT
English seems to be Groot’s native tongue for some reason.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Oct 31, 2018 4:16:25 GMT
PLOT HOLE!!!
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 31, 2018 4:48:17 GMT
Good point. These are the types of details that a master filmmaker like George Lucas implicitly understands, while the hacks who write the MCU by committee just gloss right over. Innit? |
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Oct 31, 2018 5:04:25 GMT
Groot speaks English? "Groot" is an English word? Since when? “I am” is definitely English. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 31, 2018 16:14:13 GMT
Good point. These are the types of details that a master filmmaker like George Lucas implicitly understands, while the hacks who write the MCU by committee just gloss right over. Innit? to be fair, the cosmic MCU (Winter Soldier plot and Infinity War battle notwithstanding) is more inspired by the Stargate franchise in (light) tone and design than by Star Wars. The show is neary forgotten, but it was hugely popular and spawned several spin offs universes, and it had the Norse Gods, Aliens et al speak English too. |
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Post by hobowar on Nov 2, 2018 1:52:40 GMT
Everyone in these movies speaks mostly english regardless of where they're from because the audience doesn't want to read subtitles.
Making sense DOES NOT MATTER!
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Post by Surly on Nov 2, 2018 3:29:31 GMT
Sure, Superman was raised on Earth from a baby, but why does Kryptonian General Zod speak English?
It's always been like that in comic book universes.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2018 3:47:50 GMT
The aliens have translator implants that allow them to communicate with other races from many, many, many different planets. Wakandans don't.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 2, 2018 4:07:55 GMT
The aliens have translator implants that allow them to communicate with other races from many, many, many different planets. Wakandans don't. So Wakanda has this McGuffin technology that can supposedly heal all wounds but they don't have any translator devices? |
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Post by scabab on Nov 2, 2018 4:11:45 GMT
So Wakanda has this McGuffin technology that can supposedly heal all wounds but they don't have any translator devices? They've probably got Google Translate. |
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Nov 2, 2018 4:38:55 GMT
The aliens have translator implants that allow them to communicate with other races from many, many, many different planets. Wakandans don't. How would the translater know what exact language the other person speaks? Or are we not to suppose to think about it that much? |
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Post by sostie on Nov 2, 2018 9:02:11 GMT
The aliens have translator implants that allow them to communicate with other races from many, many, many different planets. Wakandans don't. So Wakanda has this McGuffin technology that can supposedly heal all wounds but they don't have any translator devices? No more ridiculous than a magic boat or an Island of Amazonians speaking fluently a language that didn't exist when they were isolated from the rest of the world |
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 2, 2018 14:43:27 GMT
Questions like this always come off as disingenuous no matter how sincere the author is trying to be.
Wakandan's have there own language in the MCU because Wakanda has a point of reference - i.e., an African nation.
We have no point of reference for an alien language (except our own). If you create an alien language, it will simply be a derivative of an existing language or a nonconventional language that forgoes vibrating air through an oral apparatus altogether.
Exchanging pictures of complex ideograms with subtitles might not make for the most compelling drama.
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Post by politicidal on Nov 2, 2018 16:21:22 GMT
Questions like this always come off as disingenuous no matter how sincere the author is trying to be. Wakandan's have there own language in the MCU because Wakanda has a point of reference - i.e., an African nation. We have no point of reference for an alien language (except our own). If you create an alien language, it will simply be a derivative of an existing language or a nonconventional language that forgoes vibrating air through an oral apparatus altogether. Exchanging pictures of complex idiograms with subtitles might not make for the most compelling drama. Break it down more sensibly for the sake of the more obtuse members of our community. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 2, 2018 16:23:51 GMT
I've always assumed that the language technology was the same as Mass Effect's.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 2, 2018 16:29:27 GMT
Questions like this always come off as disingenuous no matter how sincere the author is trying to be. Wakandan's have there own language in the MCU because Wakanda has a point of reference - i.e., an African nation. We have no point of reference for an alien language (except our own). If you create an alien language, it will simply be a derivative of an existing language or a nonconventional language that forgoes vibrating air through an oral apparatus altogether. Exchanging pictures of complex ideogram with subtitles might not make for the most compelling drama. Break it down more sensibly for the sake of the more obtuse members of our community. We have no alien culture to use as a point of reference to create an alien language. We do have African cultures we can use as a point of reference to create a fictional African language. |
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 2, 2018 16:40:11 GMT
It's always been this way in these kinds of movies. If anything, the MCU should get further praise by actually including some native dialect for the Wakandans whereas the Amazons in DCEU still speak english. The Asgardians at least had a particular way of phrasing English whereas the Kryptonians just spoke it straight.
Anyway, I don't mind these characters not speaking a native language. It's difficult to keep reading subtitles.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 2, 2018 16:43:37 GMT
Break it down more sensibly for the sake of the more obtuse members of our community. We have no alien culture to use as a point of reference to create an alien language. We do have African cultures we can use as a point of reference to create a fictional African language. This is a deflection but not a reasonable answer to the question. The fact that we do not know actual alien languages is no way a reason why such language cannot be invented for a fictional franchise. You might look up Klingon as a living nerd language, or Elvish or another developed fictional language in countless other franchises. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon_languageIt is a matter of solid word building only. |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Nov 2, 2018 16:44:20 GMT
Just another pointless, sour-grapes criticism from losers who can't handle the fact that their chosen franchise is not the most popular.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 2, 2018 16:55:11 GMT
We have no alien culture to use as a point of reference to create an alien language. We do have African cultures we can use as a point of reference to create a fictional African language. This is a deflection but not a reasonable answer to the question. The fact that we do not know actual alien languages is no way a reason why such language cannot be invented for a fictional franchise. You might look up Klingon as a living nerd language, or Elvish or another developed fictional language in countless other franchises. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon_languageIt is a matter of solid word building only. Isn’t Klingon heavily based in militaristic concepts? I’m told that if you try ordering a glass of water in Klingon at a restaurant, you’re more likely to be killed than served. Also, wasn’t Klingon developed over several years, evolving as any natural language would? Movies rarely have that kind of time to spare in their schedules. |
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