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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Nov 18, 2018 21:44:23 GMT
Weirdly enough, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 is "darker" than the original when you think about it. It just gets hidden under all the silly jokes.
It's WAY darker. And it deepens and broadens the characters and their backstories. And it pays off shit you didn't even expect it to pay off. And the stakes are way higher. And the dialogue is better. And Kurt Russell's in it. And the music is better. But I digress.
I agree with some of that. But it also felt like a cartoon when I watched it. Which isn't necessarily bad, but I think the emotional beats would've hit a little harder without added stuff like "... and squished my walk-man". Personally, I'm more likely to re-watch the first one over the second.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 18, 2018 21:44:53 GMT
To clarify: I think I conflated "darker" and "more powerful" above, but they happen to be interchangeable in this instance. ETA: as relates to Dormammu/Ego/Thanos. I know. The interesting question is: how does non-Gauntlet Thanos stack up to Ego? Also, fun fact: Quill outsmarted both of them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2018 21:52:06 GMT
The interesting question is: how does non-Gauntlet Thanos stack up to Ego? Also, fun fact: Quill outsmarted both of them. I think Ego might be one of the reasons why Thanos didn't go all-out on his crusade sooner. Well, him and Asgard.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2018 21:52:56 GMT
It's WAY darker. And it deepens and broadens the characters and their backstories. And it pays off shit you didn't even expect it to pay off. And the stakes are way higher. And the dialogue is better. And Kurt Russell's in it. And the music is better. But I digress.
I agree with some of that. But it also felt like a cartoon when I watched it. Which isn't necessarily bad, but I think the emotional beats would've hit a little harder without added stuff like "... and squished my walk-man". Personally, I'm more likely to re-watch the first one over the second.
That Walkman was also Quill's last tangible reminder of his mother, dude.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 18, 2018 21:58:46 GMT
The interesting question is: how does non-Gauntlet Thanos stack up to Ego? Also, fun fact: Quill outsmarted both of them. I think Ego might be one of the reasons why Thanos didn't go all-out on his crusade sooner. Well, him and Asgard. It's weird to think of them coexisting. It's a little like Smaug and Sauron.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Nov 18, 2018 21:59:51 GMT
I agree with some of that. But it also felt like a cartoon when I watched it. Which isn't necessarily bad, but I think the emotional beats would've hit a little harder without added stuff like "... and squished my walk-man". Personally, I'm more likely to re-watch the first one over the second.
That Walkman was also Quill's last tangible reminder of his mother, dude. I get it, but it just took me out of it. It's like "Martha" in BvS. Yeah, I get the emotion behind it and that's fine, but it's kind of silly and lessens the impact for me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2018 22:05:08 GMT
That Walkman was also Quill's last tangible reminder of his mother, dude. I get it, but it just took me out of it. It's like "Martha" in BvS. Yeah, I get the emotion behind it and that's fine, but it's kind of silly and lessens the impact for me. It is nowhere near Martha's level.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2018 22:06:26 GMT
I think Ego might be one of the reasons why Thanos didn't go all-out on his crusade sooner. Well, him and Asgard. It's weird to think of them coexisting. It's a little like Smaug and Sauron. A bit, yeah. Smaug and Sauron would probably have short-circuited each other's goals if the former was still alive at the time of "Lord of the Rings."
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Nov 18, 2018 22:25:23 GMT
I get it, but it just took me out of it. It's like "Martha" in BvS. Yeah, I get the emotion behind it and that's fine, but it's kind of silly and lessens the impact for me. It is nowhere near Martha's level. Not as much. Probably because the Martha scene is in a film that's presented as quite serious so it makes it seem sillier.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Nov 22, 2018 0:52:48 GMT
I haven’t read the whole thread but they partially say the “F” word in MCU twice right? When Nick Fury gets snapped away during the credits of Infinity War and when Aunt May sees Peter in his Spider-Man suit.
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