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Post by charzhino on Dec 23, 2018 0:31:28 GMT
Unfortunately it gets a thumbs down from me. The visuals, action cinematography and fantastical nature of the films is excellent. But other than that, there is nothing good about the rest. The story is frankly awful. Cliche after cliche, the most cringey being the kiss during the
underwater war, reminiscent of fat rose in TLJ kissing Finn in the most dumbest of times. The story has the boring "chase the MacGuffin" plot device, as we follow the heros around several places in search for a powerful weapon. Theres literally only 2-3 scenes in the entire film which you would class as actual character developing movie scenes. The rest is exposition by the bad guy explaining his plan and exposition about what Aquaman should represent. Black Manta is a lame 1 dimensional villain.
Im disappointed, I was hoping this would be a step up but there are no redeemable artistic facets in Aquaman on the narrative level. Justice League, BvS, WW and MoS are all much better. 4/10
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Post by James on Dec 23, 2018 4:15:59 GMT
*Mild spoilers*
Saw it and enjoyed it. It has a good sense of humour and the acting is overall very good. Also, the villains were very memorable and probably the best the franchise has given so far. I felt for Black Manta when he had to see his father go, plus the costume design was spot-on. Most complain about it being too cartoony-looking for the movie, but I liked how they went that route. Action and visuals were also pretty stunning.
My issues with the film would have to be the cinematography isn’t all that impressive, and as much as I got a kick out of Momoa’s performance as Aquaman, he felt a bit of a slacker and had to have Mera do half the shit. Overall, I loved it and regard it as the DCEU film to earn the Silver Medal for the best in this franchise (WW is still the better film).
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Dec 23, 2018 7:53:48 GMT
Aquaman was terrible. The humor didn't hit and frankly, it was hard to tell when it was trying to be funny and when it was unintentional. The film starts off with that hammy love story, moves on to that goofy bullying scene and introduces us to terribly written villains we won't see again for another hour. Do even the silliest of Marvel films have the henchmen look at each other and make stupid faces before getting their asses kicked? Was Ocean Master as bad or worse than Ronan the Accuser? It's like the director told Patrick Wilson, "There is no such thing as over the top in this film." "RIIIIIIIIIIIIISE ATLANTIIIIIIIIIIIIIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -If Orm knew Willem Dafoe was betraying him, why did he let it go on so long? -Why did Mera and Aquaman need to commandeer a boat? They're both living torpedoes. (They needed a boat to stage that fight with the fish creatures, which was also corny as hell.) -How did those guys in the bar know he was Aquaman? (Granted, that was kind of funny) -When did Atlantis fall? If it was supposed to be thousands of years ago, why does the king's riddle reference a statue of a Roman ruler built more recently and the creature defending the trident says it's been there for a thousand years? -Why is Orm treated like a misguided sad sack instead of a tyrant at the end? "When you're ready, let's talk." Really? How many people do you suppose he killed with that tsunami? Do you think that fish princess that watched Orm murder her father would have some choice words for him? More to the point, why can't DC make a good movie? Why is it so hard? They try to go dark and they fail. They try to have fun and they fail. Why can't they strike the same balance as Marvel films? Get somebody who knows what they're doing so we can all enjoy these characters the way they should be enjoyed. I still like this version of the character, the dude-bro Aquaman. He just needs a better movie. The world of Atlantis was visually stunning, but I didn't care about any of it because all of the characters were so one dimensional. The dialog was cringeworthy so I don't want to blame the actors. Black Manta is one of the worst villains I've ever seen in a CBM. He looked ridiculous and again all of his dialog was cliched garbage. I'm so fed up with this franchise and I'm not even a DC fan. They have one good movie to their name (Wonder Woman), and it's only 2/3rds of a good film at that. The spiffy DC intro at the beginning is a sad reminder of all the great characters with limitless potential that will continue to be ruined on screen until these hacks figure things out. this from an MCU fan? did you just review ant man 2 and infinity war? According to RT, they're both better than Aquaman. Choose your next words, wisely. |
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Post by NormanClature on Dec 23, 2018 12:08:17 GMT
Aquaman was terrible. The humor didn't hit and frankly, it was hard to tell when it was trying to be funny and when it was unintentional. The film starts off with that hammy love story, moves on to that goofy bullying scene and introduces us to terribly written villains we won't see again for another hour. Do even the silliest of Marvel films have the henchmen look at each other and make stupid faces before getting their asses kicked? Was Ocean Master as bad or worse than Ronan the Accuser? It's like the director told Patrick Wilson, "There is no such thing as over the top in this film." "RIIIIIIIIIIIIISE ATLANTIIIIIIIIIIIIIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -If Orm knew Willem Dafoe was betraying him, why did he let it go on so long? -Why did Mera and Aquaman need to commandeer a boat? They're both living torpedoes. (They needed a boat to stage that fight with the fish creatures, which was also corny as hell.) -How did those guys in the bar know he was Aquaman? (Granted, that was kind of funny) -When did Atlantis fall? If it was supposed to be thousands of years ago, why does the king's riddle reference a statue of a Roman ruler built more recently and the creature defending the trident says it's been there for a thousand years? -Why is Orm treated like a misguided sad sack instead of a tyrant at the end? "When you're ready, let's talk." Really? How many people do you suppose he killed with that tsunami? Do you think that fish princess that watched Orm murder her father would have some choice words for him? More to the point, why can't DC make a good movie? Why is it so hard? They try to go dark and they fail. They try to have fun and they fail. Why can't they strike the same balance as Marvel films? Get somebody who knows what they're doing so we can all enjoy these characters the way they should be enjoyed. I still like this version of the character, the dude-bro Aquaman. He just needs a better movie. The world of Atlantis was visually stunning, but I didn't care about any of it because all of the characters were so one dimensional. The dialog was cringeworthy so I don't want to blame the actors. Black Manta is one of the worst villains I've ever seen in a CBM. He looked ridiculous and again all of his dialog was cliched garbage. I'm so fed up with this franchise and I'm not even a DC fan. They have one good movie to their name (Wonder Woman), and it's only 2/3rds of a good film at that. The spiffy DC intro at the beginning is a sad reminder of all the great characters with limitless potential that will continue to be ruined on screen until these hacks figure things out. Of all the problems the movie has, the writing is definitely the biggest one. It's just horrible. When they were doing "show, don't tell," at script writing school, Will Beall clearly didn't attend. I think he needs to return to writing episodes of shitty, formulaic TV shows, forthwith.  |
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Post by Jedan Archer on Dec 23, 2018 15:10:02 GMT
Aquaman was terrible. The humor didn't hit and frankly, it was hard to tell when it was trying to be funny and when it was unintentional. The film starts off with that hammy love story, moves on to that goofy bullying scene and introduces us to terribly written villains we won't see again for another hour. Do even the silliest of Marvel films have the henchmen look at each other and make stupid faces before getting their asses kicked? Was Ocean Master as bad or worse than Ronan the Accuser? It's like the director told Patrick Wilson, "There is no such thing as over the top in this film." "RIIIIIIIIIIIIISE ATLANTIIIIIIIIIIIIIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -If Orm knew Willem Dafoe was betraying him, why did he let it go on so long? -Why did Mera and Aquaman need to commandeer a boat? They're both living torpedoes. (They needed a boat to stage that fight with the fish creatures, which was also corny as hell.) -How did those guys in the bar know he was Aquaman? (Granted, that was kind of funny) -When did Atlantis fall? If it was supposed to be thousands of years ago, why does the king's riddle reference a statue of a Roman ruler built more recently and the creature defending the trident says it's been there for a thousand years? -Why is Orm treated like a misguided sad sack instead of a tyrant at the end? "When you're ready, let's talk." Really? How many people do you suppose he killed with that tsunami? Do you think that fish princess that watched Orm murder her father would have some choice words for him? More to the point, why can't DC make a good movie? Why is it so hard? They try to go dark and they fail. They try to have fun and they fail. Why can't they strike the same balance as Marvel films? Get somebody who knows what they're doing so we can all enjoy these characters the way they should be enjoyed. I still like this version of the character, the dude-bro Aquaman. He just needs a better movie. The world of Atlantis was visually stunning, but I didn't care about any of it because all of the characters were so one dimensional. The dialog was cringeworthy so I don't want to blame the actors. Black Manta is one of the worst villains I've ever seen in a CBM. He looked ridiculous and again all of his dialog was cliched garbage. I'm so fed up with this franchise and I'm not even a DC fan. They have one good movie to their name (Wonder Woman), and it's only 2/3rds of a good film at that. The spiffy DC intro at the beginning is a sad reminder of all the great characters with limitless potential that will continue to be ruined on screen until these hacks figure things out. Good lord. That has to be one of the most uninformed rambling I have read all week. In fact it's so infuriatingly hypocritical and nitpicky that I have to reply at this point as bare minimum: Haven't watched the movie, have you? Orm (as main villain) and Manta (as muscle villain) are constantly in it. Aqua faces his brother in a fight in Act one, same with Manta, they meet in act 2 and 3 respectively for their end fights - all with character development and changed conditions. If you look for leads and antagonist disappearing for an entire act why not look at the TV-episodic script of Avengers 3 Infinity War, bet you did not complain there, hmm? Wonder why. Ah here we go. Frankly, never seen a non-silly Marvel film. Aquaman is just as silly and - by nature of the character - the film has every right to be. I have no idea what exactly you are pissing on here, but the conflicts in Aquaman were set up properly; so you can understand the villains' motivations. And LOL "Ronan the Accuser"? If you prefer Dace Offs a la Guardians, oh well. You need to watch the film for that. Aquaman was badly wounded by Black Manta and fainted. Mera tended to his wounds while he was unconscious. And she commandeered the boat to their destination (trench). Common sense, living torpedo does not work well when you are bleeding out and unconscious. Also, it's like on the surface, to travel long distances you take a ride to prevent exhaustion and time loss: we see they ride underwater ships and creatures to achieve just that. Why shouldn't they? Aquaman is a superhero and does not act under a secret identity like Batman. He was known in JL and became prominent during the cosmic attack. In Aquaman the media mention his deeds, the pirates knew him by name. Likely, a bunch of rockers would recognize a dude looking like them - they asked nicely for a selfie, and he did not deny it. Very simple human interaction. It's not clearly stated why, they do not have to. Likely he was just informed recently when Aqaman appeared and wanted to be sure (eg during the bubble meeting sequence). Orm specifically asked him "why" and could not understand the betrayal for a half blood prince. Also, keeping betrayers/spies in charge to monitor and mislead then is a tactical thing. Also it's an old trope in films and stories. Lol, learn about history and mythology. They referenced the mythological (!) character of Romulus, I believe, who founded ancient Rome, the myth takes place around 750 BC thus nearly 3k years. That would be way longer back than a thousand years. Talk about uninformed nitpicks. Because he is the good guy with a taking-responsibility arc. It's all spelled out if you'd have bothered to watch: They did the civil thing and arrested him: His mother asked for his life to stop the bloodshed cycle. Aquaman may not have wanted to kill his brother (especially before his pleading mother), and he had his arc from letting the other guy die causing more harm. Also, Aquaman might have something in mind for him as there is another invasion threat looming in space. It's not that difficult. In fact it was one of the more interesting character treatment decisions. (Btw, what about MCU Loki and Thor? Loki betrays and bans Thor, commits high treason, invades Earth: they put him in prison. Ok, fair enough, like in Aquaman, right? But then Loki gets out, dethrones Odin by taking his place and when Thor returns: final blood vengeance a la Godgather2? No! ALL IS FORGIVEN. They become best buddies and loving brothers in no time, scheming Loki as Thor's lackey. Have a fun piss on the Norse legend, logic and characters. It's all comedy. But you did not complain about that, eh?) Why oh why?!? Funny, below you state WW was a good movie. Good is subjective, so ask yourself that. IMHO DC made way more good movies and bone fide classics than those juvenile, boiler plate MCU films ever will be. It's opinion. But rest assured, you won't get any Dance Offs here. That's fact. The hypocrisy overload is nauseating. If you were a Shakespeare purist, ok. But no, MCU fanboy. I cannot even begin to mention the infamous feces and mommy dialogue abominations coming from MCU....I just can't, or I would have to put soap in my mouth. You really cannot have seen many muscle-villains in movies. Black Manta was very well executed and his action sequence was amazingly shot, craft and filmmaking art combined. Btw, Manta is a fan favorite. And he's represented comic accurate and in costume (not CGI). Your complaint is noted as a minority opinion. Again, try it with the much lauded MCU villains. Lol. You do not say. Don't let the door hit you were the good lord split you. I for one am so seriously fucking fed up with you whiny fanboys that I feel dirty and ashamed even to have responded. |
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Post by damngumby on Dec 23, 2018 17:56:17 GMT
I for one am so seriously fucking fed up with you whiny fanboy simpletons that I feel dirty and ashamed even to have responded to your drivel. Blocked. Oh boy, I sure do enjoy these long spitin’ mad rants! ... followed by the declaration that they will not be reading any replies! ::pout:: Jedan Archer felt so dirty and ashamed, responding to ReyKahuka, that he went back an hour and a half later and defiled himself a second time!  I particularly liked Jedan Archer snooty clucking about “learning history and mythology”. According to history and mythology, Atlantis fell 9000 years before Plato. Plato was around 400 BC. Romulus was around 800 BC. You do the math. I’m sure ReyKahuka will have a field day doing a point by point rebuttal with the rest of the stuff. Too bad JA will be cowering under his bed. |
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Post by Jedan Archer on Dec 23, 2018 18:28:22 GMT
I for one am so seriously fucking fed up with you whiny fanboy simpletons that I feel dirty and ashamed even to have responded to your drivel. Blocked. Oh boy, I sure do enjoy these long spitin’ mad rants! ... followed by the declaration that they will not be reading any replies! ::pout:: Jedan Archer felt so dirty and ashamed, responding to ReyKahuka, that he went back an hour and a half later and defiled himself a second time! I particularly liked Jedan Archer snooty clucking about “learning history and mythology”. According to history and mythology, Atlantis fell 9000 years before Plato. Plato was around 400 BC. Romulus was around 800 BC. You do the math. I’m sure ReyKahuka will have a field day doing a point by point rebuttal with the rest of the stuff. Too bad JA will be cowering under his bed. ^Speaking of the fanboy devil. Yes, indeed. After mellowing down, I reminded myself that I might be talking to a kid. So, from all the point debunked you only got one complaint? Wonderful. I hate to break it to you: Atlantis is a fictional island without historic timeline. Under Plato it was never a technological wonderland that self destructed. Atlantis has become a synonyme for any lost civilizations, may not even be Plato's Atlantis in the film. Now prove me wrong: Did they mention those timelines IN the movie? I remember: NO, they did not. Please provide quotes to the contrary? If yes, we might have a timeline hole al la MCU. If not, you got nothing but your usual ignorance. We both know it's the latter.
PS: Btw we at the firm still laugh at your infamous "Did you go to Lawyer school", especially when I mention it's from a guy calling himself King Kong Brady. Gotta mention your hilarious fights against mathematics, statistics and timeslimes too.
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Post by havenless on Dec 23, 2018 18:55:01 GMT
64%. If this movie ends up rotten it’ll be the all-time historic RT plummet.
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Post by Jedan Archer on Dec 23, 2018 19:01:29 GMT
64%. If this movie ends up rotten it’ll be the all-time historic RT plummet. Interesting. Because it fell from 70ies by 10 percent point on RT you say? Could you kindly provide evidence for your claim (all-time historic RT plummet)? |
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Post by havenless on Dec 23, 2018 19:11:49 GMT
64%. If this movie ends up rotten it’ll be the all-time historic RT plummet. Interesting. Because it fell from 70ies by 10 percent point on RT you say? Could you kindly provide evidence for your claim (all-time historic RT plummet)? 10% implies you’re certain it was at best 74%, when simply reading this thread shows it wasn’t. I’m not entirely sure where you came up with that number if you were at all tracking Aquaman’s pace (or bothered reading the thread you’re replying in.) At 100+ reviews it was in the 70’s. The lack of movies ending up rotten with that track record is all the proof I need to safely say this is the outlier of all outliers. Why are you confident it never broker 74% at any point during this process? Why was that the foundation of your question? |
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Post by Jedan Archer on Dec 23, 2018 19:15:05 GMT
Interesting. Because it fell from 70ies by 10 percent point on RT you say? Could you kindly provide evidence for your claim (all-time historic RT plummet)? 10% implies you’re certain it was at best 74%, when simply reading this thread shows it wasn’t. I’m not entirely sure where you came up with that number if you were at all tracking Aquaman’s pace (or bothered reading the thread you’re replying in.) At 100+ reviews it was in the 70’s. The lack of movies ending up rotten with that track record is all the proof I need to safely say this is the outlier of all outliers. So, you got nothing. Just defamatory nonsense and fake facts pulled out of your ass. |
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Post by havenless on Dec 23, 2018 19:22:48 GMT
10% implies you’re certain it was at best 74%, when simply reading this thread shows it wasn’t. I’m not entirely sure where you came up with that number if you were at all tracking Aquaman’s pace (or bothered reading the thread you’re replying in.) At 100+ reviews it was in the 70’s. The lack of movies ending up rotten with that track record is all the proof I need to safely say this is the outlier of all outliers. So, you got nothing. Just defamatory nonsense and fake facts pulled out of your ass. Enough with the abusive attacks. It’s not my fault Aquaman is in this mess. And it’s not yours either. Be calm. |
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Post by Jedan Archer on Dec 23, 2018 19:30:50 GMT
So, you got nothing. Just defamatory nonsense and fake facts pulled out of your ass. Enough with the abusive attacks. It’s not my fault Aquaman is in this mess. And it’s not yours either. Be calm. Pathetic how you try to deflect. You made a slanderous claim and are completely unable to prove it when asked. Pulled it out of your ass to shit on the film and now you standing here with your pants down soiled. Just did it again: Mess? Your fake facts are the only mess here. |
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Post by havenless on Dec 23, 2018 19:31:54 GMT
Enough with the abusive attacks. It’s not my fault Aquaman is in this mess. And it’s not yours either. Be calm. Pathetic how you try to deflect. You made a slanderous claim and are completely unable to prove it when asked. Pulled it out of your ass to shit on the film and now you standing here with your pants down soiled. Just did it again: Mess? Your fake facts are the only mess here. no |
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Post by damngumby on Dec 23, 2018 19:34:12 GMT
Yes, indeed. After mellowing down, I reminded myself that I might be talking to a kid. You regained your courage after thinking that you might be sparring with a kid? Uh ... ok. Like I said, I wouldn’t want to steal ReyKahuka’s thunder by denying him his point-by-point rebuttal field day. I guess you shouldn’t have tried to counter RK’s complaint with your own timeline of a mythical person then. So you’ve gone from advising RK to better educate himself in history and mythology to claiming that none of it matters anyways. Wow, that was quick! LOL. I don’t know what’s funnier. Your claim to be a graduate of a lawyer school, or a law firm where you and your distinguished colleagues reminisce over the activities on a comic book superhero forum. I have to ask - How many superhero action figures do you have in your “office”? |
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Post by Jedan Archer on Dec 23, 2018 20:07:38 GMT
Yes, indeed. After mellowing down, I reminded myself that I might be talking to a kid. You regained your courage after thinking that you might be sparring with a kid? Uh ... ok. Like I said, I wouldn’t want to steal ReyKahuka’s thunder by denying him his point-by-point rebuttal field day. I guess you shouldn’t have tried to counter RK’s complaint with your own timeline of a mythical person then. So you’ve gone from advising RK to better educate himself in history and mythology to claiming that none of it matters anyways. Wow, that was quick!
So, you got nothing from the movie. I'm not surprised. Didn't even see it. Fair enough if you don't believe me. Ask me something you only learn in lawyer school. I won't charge you per hour. Promised Bleh, you got the wrong idea law firms and of the bar admitted attorneys at law working there. We are not that distinguished. Yes, I have several sets of ties and suit hanging there, but I barely wear them (unless client contact). I do not have and never had superhero figures. But for some time in my junior associate days I had a R2-D2, Yoda and Jawa action figure in my office room (70s Kenner issue). Now I mostly have modern paintings and a very fancy grand globe standing there. |
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Post by damngumby on Dec 23, 2018 21:14:07 GMT
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Post by scabab on Dec 23, 2018 21:22:55 GMT
Take a breath everyone.
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Post by damngumby on Dec 23, 2018 21:34:48 GMT
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Dec 23, 2018 22:54:20 GMT
Aquaman was terrible. The humor didn't hit and frankly, it was hard to tell when it was trying to be funny and when it was unintentional. The film starts off with that hammy love story, moves on to that goofy bullying scene and introduces us to terribly written villains we won't see again for another hour. Do even the silliest of Marvel films have the henchmen look at each other and make stupid faces before getting their asses kicked? Was Ocean Master as bad or worse than Ronan the Accuser? It's like the director told Patrick Wilson, "There is no such thing as over the top in this film." "RIIIIIIIIIIIIISE ATLANTIIIIIIIIIIIIIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -If Orm knew Willem Dafoe was betraying him, why did he let it go on so long? -Why did Mera and Aquaman need to commandeer a boat? They're both living torpedoes. (They needed a boat to stage that fight with the fish creatures, which was also corny as hell.) -How did those guys in the bar know he was Aquaman? (Granted, that was kind of funny) -When did Atlantis fall? If it was supposed to be thousands of years ago, why does the king's riddle reference a statue of a Roman ruler built more recently and the creature defending the trident says it's been there for a thousand years? -Why is Orm treated like a misguided sad sack instead of a tyrant at the end? "When you're ready, let's talk." Really? How many people do you suppose he killed with that tsunami? Do you think that fish princess that watched Orm murder her father would have some choice words for him? More to the point, why can't DC make a good movie? Why is it so hard? They try to go dark and they fail. They try to have fun and they fail. Why can't they strike the same balance as Marvel films? Get somebody who knows what they're doing so we can all enjoy these characters the way they should be enjoyed. I still like this version of the character, the dude-bro Aquaman. He just needs a better movie. The world of Atlantis was visually stunning, but I didn't care about any of it because all of the characters were so one dimensional. The dialog was cringeworthy so I don't want to blame the actors. Black Manta is one of the worst villains I've ever seen in a CBM. He looked ridiculous and again all of his dialog was cliched garbage. I'm so fed up with this franchise and I'm not even a DC fan. They have one good movie to their name (Wonder Woman), and it's only 2/3rds of a good film at that. The spiffy DC intro at the beginning is a sad reminder of all the great characters with limitless potential that will continue to be ruined on screen until these hacks figure things out. Good lord. That has to be one of the most uninformed rambling I have read all week. In fact it's so infuriatingly hypocritical and nitpicky that I have to reply at this point as bare minimum: Haven't watched the movie, have you? Orm (as main villain) and Manta (as muscle villain) are constantly in it. Aqua faces his brother in a fight in Act one, same with Manta, they meet in act 2 and 3 respectively for their end fights - all with character development and changed conditions. If you look for leads and antagonist disappearing for an entire act why not look at the TV-episodic script of Avengers 3 Infinity War, bet you did not complain there, hmm? Wonder why. Ah here we go. Frankly, never seen a non-silly Marvel film. Aquaman is just as silly and - by nature of the character - the film has every right to be. I have no idea what exactly you are pissing on here, but the conflicts in Aquaman were set up properly; so you can understand the villains' motivations. And LOL "Ronan the Accuser"? If you prefer Dace Offs a la Guardians, oh well. You need to watch the film for that. Aquaman was badly wounded by Black Manta and fainted. Mera tended to his wounds while he was unconscious. And she commandeered the boat to their destination (trench). Common sense, living torpedo does not work well when you are bleeding out and unconscious. Also, it's like on the surface, to travel long distances you take a ride to prevent exhaustion and time loss: we see they ride underwater ships and creatures to achieve just that. Why shouldn't they? Aquaman is a superhero and does not act under a secret identity like Batman. He was known in JL and became prominent during the cosmic attack. In Aquaman the media mention his deeds, the pirates knew him by name. Likely, a bunch of rockers would recognize a dude looking like them - they asked nicely for a selfie, and he did not deny it. Very simple human interaction. It's not clearly stated why, they do not have to. Likely he was just informed recently when Aqaman appeared and wanted to be sure (eg during the bubble meeting sequence). Orm specifically asked him "why" and could not understand the betrayal for a half blood prince. Also, keeping betrayers/spies in charge to monitor and mislead then is a tactical thing. Also it's an old trope in films and stories. Lol, learn about history and mythology. They referenced the mythological (!) character of Romulus, I believe, who founded ancient Rome, the myth takes place around 750 BC thus nearly 3k years. That would be way longer back than a thousand years. Talk about uninformed nitpicks. Because he is the good guy with a taking-responsibility arc. It's all spelled out if you'd have bothered to watch: They did the civil thing and arrested him: His mother asked for his life to stop the bloodshed cycle. Aquaman may not have wanted to kill his brother (especially before his pleading mother), and he had his arc from letting the other guy die causing more harm. Also, Aquaman might have something in mind for him as there is another invasion threat looming in space. It's not that difficult. In fact it was one of the more interesting character treatment decisions. (Btw, what about MCU Loki and Thor? Loki betrays and bans Thor, commits high treason, invades Earth: they put him in prison. Ok, fair enough, like in Aquaman, right? But then Loki gets out, dethrones Odin by taking his place and when Thor returns: final blood vengeance a la Godgather2? No! ALL IS FORGIVEN. They become best buddies and loving brothers in no time, scheming Loki as Thor's lackey. Have a fun piss on the Norse legend, logic and characters. It's all comedy. But you did not complain about that, eh?) Why oh why?!? Funny, below you state WW was a good movie. Good is subjective, so ask yourself that. IMHO DC made way more good movies and bone fide classics than those juvenile, boiler plate MCU films ever will be. It's opinion. But rest assured, you won't get any Dance Offs here. That's fact. The hypocrisy overload is nauseating. If you were a Shakespeare purist, ok. But no, MCU fanboy. I cannot even begin to mention the infamous feces and mommy dialogue abominations coming from MCU....I just can't, or I would have to put soap in my mouth. You really cannot have seen many muscle-villains in movies. Black Manta was very well executed and his action sequence was amazingly shot, craft and filmmaking art combined. Btw, Manta is a fan favorite. And he's represented comic accurate and in costume (not CGI). Your complaint is noted as a minority opinion. Again, try it with the much lauded MCU villains. Lol. You do not say. Don't let the door hit you were the good lord split you. I for one am so seriously fucking fed up with you whiny fanboys that I feel dirty and ashamed even to have responded. You're a grown man, stop taking sides in fan wars. I was very excited for this film, it isn't a DC vs. Marvel thing because I'm not mentally 9 years old. Not sure how I'm a fanboy when I specifically pointed out I'm not a fan of the source material. I've been active on these boards, talking about how fun the film looked, so try again.
I'm no going to reply point by point because it isn't worth the trouble. I've already put more thought into this movie than the filmmakers did. Your arguments are as ridiculous as the script itself.
I will say this. As I pointed out in my initial post, the statue of Romulus is from long after his time-- Arthur points out the other Roman figures depicted. I wasn't questioning the king's riddle referencing Romulus (though that still seems too recent), I was questioning the reference of the statue itself, which was clearly erected later considering the other characters present at the site. Read a book, you'll see I'm right. Unless you're suggesting Atlantis didn't sink until sometime after the birth of Christ in this universe?
Speaking of hypocrisy, all you anti-Marvel guys complain about Marvel movies being too flashy, too silly etc. But when DC does it it's a masterpiece. Grow up, please. Glad it worked for you, but the humor was off for me and the characters were stock. Still looking forward to what they do next with the character, hopefully they'll put more effort into a script next time out.
I can't believe the effort you put into defending somebody else's IP. Good luck to you, sir.
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