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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 22, 2019 14:17:47 GMT
A nomination is absolutely deserved. It had an enormous impact on cinema. It proved an afrocentric film could gross a billion dollars. It's an important milestone in filmmaking history. As far as film quality goes I don't know if it's in my top 10 of the year but hell, neither is A Star Is Born. The social implications are enormous, that's exactly the kind of impact that should be rewarded by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 22, 2019 14:20:29 GMT
I was the one for this whole past year saying that Black Panther wouldn't receive a best picture nomination. Obviously I'm eating crow now. Why are all of you angry or shocked. we knew it a year ago it will get nominated. haven't we made jokes about it on this board before.
Angry? I'm not angry. Shock? Sure.
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Post by cricket on Jan 22, 2019 14:24:13 GMT
Well on the one hand I don't think it's probably deserved when something like last year's Logan didn't get a nomination or even something like Wonder Woman. But I'd rather see it nominated than some snobby indie movie that nobody has seen. First Man
Mission Impossible Fallout
Did you see those?
For all comic fans, this should have been a time for celebration, now most of you are cringing and laughing at black panthers best picture norm because we all know disney paid for it and it was not on merit.
the genre does not deserve to loose so much credibility.
Notice MCU fans cant even celebrate, they know its a scam and you cant celebrate over a scam. LMAO.
Celebrate? Where? Here? In a place/forum where you and your lot have systematically gotten rid of almost every MCU fan. No mate, this is not the place to celebrate. But if you want to search a bit. you will find where the MCU fans are celebrating...
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Post by scabab on Jan 22, 2019 14:25:14 GMT
First Man Mission Impossible Fallout Did you see those? For all comic fans, this should have been a time for celebration, now most of you are cringing and laughing at black panthers best picture norm because we all know disney paid for it and it was not on merit. the genre does not deserve to loose so much credibility. Notice MCU fans cant even celebrate, they know its a scam and you cant celebrate over a scam. LMAO. I saw Mission Impossible and that was good, that could have probably got nominated too. But it'd be pretty cringe to celebrate any movie getting a nomination, it's just an award, none of us have any involvement with the making of the movies. The movie was very well liked by fans and got good reviews so it's not like it's the biggest surprise ever. No I'm glad it got nominated, it's not what I'd have picked but I'm still glad.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jan 22, 2019 14:27:19 GMT
Obviously, this was a failure of the universe's self-corrected mechanism for nonmeritorious art. What a cruel world. The cosmological constant is off. Well... at least we can be assured it won't win anything... Hee hee hee... The beauty of the situation is that the more BP succeeds, the less credible its success appears. History will not be kind.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 22, 2019 14:28:01 GMT
Well on the one hand I don't think it's probably deserved when something like last year's Logan didn't get a nomination or even something like Wonder Woman. But I'd rather see it nominated than some snobby indie movie that nobody has seen. I think Logan and Wonder Woman deserved noms as well. I disagree with the 'snobby indy movie' comment, though. What separates the Oscars from dopey awards like Grammys in the music industry is that consideration is taken into the art itself and what the film is conveying to its audience. Box office is relevant but it isn't the deciding factor. It shouldn't simply be a popularity contest. In the case of Black Panther, it was a huge financial success as well as having serious social implications-- within its own narrative and within the movie industry itself. It made history and deserves to be recognized. I don't think it'll win but that isn't the point. The Oscars shouldn't be viewed as a scorecard, they're a reflection of what the film industry aspires to be.
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Post by dazz on Jan 22, 2019 14:37:49 GMT
Eh whatever I didn't care before I don't care now, do find it funny it didn't get nominated for any of the other "big" categories where as the other 7 all did and multiple times I think, should have got a special award for it's importance imo but not BP.
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Post by James on Jan 22, 2019 14:43:47 GMT
Should’ve been IW.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 22, 2019 14:45:44 GMT
Alright time to double down even more now!
BLACK PANTHER WILL NOT WIN BEST PICTURE!
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Post by scabab on Jan 22, 2019 14:51:48 GMT
I disagree with the 'snobby indy movie' comment, though. Well there's plenty of big blockbuster movies that do that but they don't seem to give them the time of day as much anymore. You look at the 90's and you had things like Dances with Wolves, Ghost, Silence of the Lambs, Beauty and the Beast, The Fugitive, Forrest Gump, Pulp Fiction, Brave Heart, Apollo 13, Titanic, The Full Monty, Saving Private Ryan and The Sixth Sense. Good movies and movies that people had actually seen. You dont seem to get as many now and whatever blockbuster is in there never wins it.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 22, 2019 14:54:57 GMT
First Man should’ve been nominated. Mission Impossible: Fallout is badass but it’s still a blockbuster franchise that highly depends on its appeal to the masses. And films like that just don’t belong at the Oscars. At least not in the major categories. First Man was great. It should win sound editing and sound mixing, the attention to detail put into that aspect of the film was incredible. I also agree Mission Impossible isn't an Oscar-type film, which is why I still don't understand why Fury Road was nominated for Best Picture. Clearly it had more to do with social implications (which is fine), but I didn't think it had much of an impact even in that regard. But part of the fun of these award shows is comparing your perspective with that of the Academy. It's all just industry hype and if you forget that, you're not going to have a good time.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 22, 2019 15:00:04 GMT
I disagree with the 'snobby indy movie' comment, though. Well there's plenty of big blockbuster movies that do that but they don't seem to give them the time of day as much anymore. You look at the 90's and you had things like Dances with Wolves, Ghost, Silence of the Lambs, Beauty and the Beast, The Fugitive, Forrest Gump, Pulp Fiction, Brave Heart, Apollo 13, Titanic, The Full Monty, Saving Private Ryan and The Sixth Sense. Good movies and movies that people had actually seen. You dont seem to get as many now and whatever blockbuster is in there never wins it. Most of the films you mentioned are classic Oscar fare, though. They just happened to be blockbusters. People only go to theaters in droves for loud CGI action movies these days, that's the difference in what a blockbuster has become. The biggest change in the industry is how people consume it.
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Post by charzhino on Jan 22, 2019 15:36:16 GMT
Obviously, this was a failure of the universe's self-corrected mechanism for nonmeritorious art. What a cruel world. The cosmological constant is off. Well... at least we can be assured it won't win anything... Hee hee hee... The beauty of the situation is that the more BP succeeds, the less credible its success appears. History will not be kind. THIS
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Post by politicidal on Jan 22, 2019 16:28:04 GMT
Well I do declare, color me impressed.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jan 22, 2019 16:50:27 GMT
lols
Lions never ever concern themselves with sheep. Esp. sheep in troll clothing.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jan 22, 2019 16:57:00 GMT
I mean, if we had to be perfectly honest here, this is basically a ratings stunt. Black Panther is fine and all, but there’s no reason that it should be the first superhero movie to be nominated for Best Picture, other than that the Academy needs a solid hook to bring in more viewers.
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Post by poutinep on Jan 22, 2019 17:02:32 GMT
Why do people get so bent out of shape about the oscars? it's just the opinions of a group of mostly old white guys. stop acting like their opinions are better than anyone else's, or like something should be nominated, or something shouldn't be nominated.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 17:10:01 GMT
The possibility that Black Panther might be nominated for Best Pic was for me an ongoing joke. I'm blown away partially by it now being a reality. It's surreal.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Jan 22, 2019 17:10:29 GMT
You know what. Screw it. Ima celebrate the shit outta dis.
BLACK MOTHER FUCKING PANTHER YA’LL!!!!!
*DEEEEJAAAAYYYY KHALED* WE DA BEST!!!
We did it guys. After waiting ten long years after the gut punch snub of TDK, I had lost hope. Then my confidence was restored with that Logan screenplay nom but simultaneously felt pessimistic by the lack of a nom for Patty Jenkins. But now, here we are. Black Panther will forever be remembered as the first comic book movie to get a Best Picture nomination. Congratulations fans. We out here in deez streets son.
BP GOT BP!!
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Post by politicidal on Jan 22, 2019 17:23:11 GMT
A nomination is absolutely deserved. It had an enormous impact on cinema. It proved an afrocentric film could gross a billion dollars. It's an important milestone in filmmaking history. As far as film quality goes I don't know if it's in my top 10 of the year but hell, neither is A Star Is Born. The social implications are enormous, that's exactly the kind of impact that should be rewarded by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. Films should not have social implications or an agenda outside of escapist entertainment! That's cultural marxism!
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